MBE - how'd you feel? Forum

[yurista]

2-4 questions on very narrow areas of the law which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

...only 2-4? You're ahead of me then!

No I mean on the same exact issue.

Ah yes. There was one particular (civpro) rule that stood out to me as well. Saw two very similar questions on one narrow issue within the rule, and two more on that same civpro rule. Not sure I got any of them right. Hoping at least one or two were test-drive unscored questions since they're still rolling out the civpro questions...

I wish i remembered what it was on specifically, bc they def tested the same idea twice. I chose opposite answers figuring one would be right...

[jamescastle]

I heard there was a new subject question put up. So we're going to have Wills as a MBE subject next, eh?

lmao
yeah that was out of nowhere

[Elston Gunn]

2-4 questions on very narrow areas of the law which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

...only 2-4? You're ahead of me then!

No I mean on the same exact issue.

Ah yes. There was one particular (civpro) rule that stood out to me as well. Saw two very similar questions on one narrow issue within the rule, and two more on that same civpro rule. Not sure I got any of them right. Hoping at least one or two were test-drive unscored questions since they're still rolling out the civpro questions...

I wish i remembered what it was on specifically, bc they def tested the same idea twice. I chose opposite answers figuring one would be right...

Yep, did exactly the same thing.

[old_soul]

I heard there was a new subject question put up. So we're going to have Wills as a MBE subject next, eh?

lmao
yeah that was out of nowhere

I'm pretty sure they're trying to also sneak in Secured Transactions in there as well.

[soj]

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[old_soul]

I felt like a lab rat, tbh. Like, it was designed by some evil people who wanted to see how we behaved with every question's 2-3 right answers. It felt more like an intuition-behavioral test than an actual straight up law exam.

[despina]

I heard there was a new subject question put up. So we're going to have Wills as a MBE subject next, eh?

lmao
yeah that was out of nowhere

I'm pretty sure they're trying to also sneak in Secured Transactions in there as well.

YES. Good god, why.

[Lobolaw1984]

What was with all that appellate shit for civ pro? Suppose I'll start looking into retake options - essays were abnormally easy, mbe was brutal. I'd say about 15 - 20 answers where I know that it was absolutely correct. Barbri needs to get with the 8 ball and update their mbe questions.

[Arbinshire]

What was with all that appellate shit for civ pro? Suppose I'll start looking into retake options - essays were abnormally easy, mbe was brutal. I'd say about 15 - 20 answers where I know that it was absolutely correct. Barbri needs to get with the 8 ball and update their mbe questions.

One of the discovery/crim-pro question themes I've seen elsewhere is the bit of an initial Appeal as right for indigents, and subsequent appeals not. Tiny piece of Crim Pro there disguised as Civ Pro.

[robinhoodOO]

What I felt pissed about was that it seemed like I had prepared for a completely different exam. Massive amount of hours and measuring my progress, for what? Sheeshk. I'll feel lucky if I even get 50% right.

Funny thing is I've spoken with 3 Adaptibar people who have said they felt like they saw most of those Q's and they did great. How fucked is it if it all turns down to which course you do your MBE's with???

So, we all spend dozens and dozens of hours studying for fuck all for it to turn on which course you did...haha.

[smokeylarue]

Does anyone know if states scale this thing? For example if 130 was passing last year but this year everyones average was like 5-10 pts lower, do they adjust for that?

[robinhoodOO]

I heard there was a new subject question put up. So we're going to have Wills as a MBE subject next, eh?

lmao
yeah that was out of nowhere

I'm pretty sure they're trying to also sneak in Secured Transactions in there as well.

YES. Good god, why.

We are being played--haha

WTF happened

[robinhoodOO]

Does anyone know if states scale this thing? For example if 130 was passing last year but this year everyones average was like 5-10 pts lower, do they adjust for that?

They do and how each state scales is pretty much a mystery and different for each state. For CA folks, I believe they estimate adding 5-15 to the raw score (on average and depending on god knows what factors)

[old_soul]

What I felt pissed about was that it seemed like I had prepared for a completely different exam. Massive amount of hours and measuring my progress, for what? Sheeshk. I'll feel lucky if I even get 50% right.

Funny thing is I've spoken with 3 Adaptibar people who have said they felt like they saw most of those Q's and they did great. How fucked is it if it all turns down to which course you do your MBE's with???

So, we all spend dozens and dozens of hours studying for fuck all for it to turn on which course you did...haha.

I want Barbri to give me a refund if I make less than what I did on the Simulated. I think that's fair. Wish I'd stuck with Adaptibar. I fell behind on Adaptinar because I hated not having physical hard copies.

Barbri is largely obsolete for MBEs.

[Underoath]

I'm so glad (sorry), that everyone is having this problem. I was really stumped even on my "hot" topics. WHAT IN THE F?!

[InTheWideLand I Walk]

What was with all that appellate shit for civ pro? Suppose I'll start looking into retake options - essays were abnormally easy, mbe was brutal. I'd say about 15 - 20 answers where I know that it was absolutely correct. Barbri needs to get with the 8 ball and update their mbe questions.

No... Way. Barbri had a question with an executor-decedent relationship and smj. They also had a question with a complaint being dismissed 2 times and then being filed a third time.

I recall other things as well but those 2 were like narrow as hell, woulda never gotten em if i didnt do barbris questions.

[musicfor18]

2-4 questions on very narrow areas of the law which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

...only 2-4? You're ahead of me then!

No I mean on the same exact issue.

I had a question that I swear was asked on both the AM and PM. Wondering if it was experimental and they were playing around with variations.

Yes. I noticed a question that was asked in both sessions. Different facts, but exactly the same issue.

[Good Guy Gaud]

I guess this shouldn't be too surprising because Feb was rumored to be really tough too

[old_soul]

2-4 questions on very narrow areas of the law which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

...only 2-4? You're ahead of me then!

No I mean on the same exact issue.

I had a question that I swear was asked on both the AM and PM. Wondering if it was experimental and they were playing around with variations.

Yes. I noticed a question that was asked in both sessions. Different facts, but exactly the same issue.

Those qs made me feel like they were playing with my head, just to test how sure I am. What shocked me was how disproportionate the coverage was in some subjects. I have a feeling they're shifting from the old standards.

Also, I was talking to my bro about how 60% of the qs seemed to have some kind of relation to property, and he was telling me it's likely they want to test you on this because of the housing crisis, lol.

[hindijs1]

Themis here. Testing between 75% to 84% last few weeks. I feel like im lucky if I hit 65% today. You guys are not alone.

[somuchbooty]

I just don't get it. How can someone take that many practice tests/questions and then not see more than 2-3 questions that look similar to PREVIOUS exam questions? Just doesn't make sense, and if they're going to alter the exam question style that much, they should at least make sure they aren't worded ambiguously.

[musicfor18]

What I felt pissed about was that it seemed like I had prepared for a completely different exam. Massive amount of hours and measuring my progress, for what? Sheeshk. I'll feel lucky if I even get 50% right.

Funny thing is I've spoken with 3 Adaptibar people who have said they felt like they saw most of those Q's and they did great. How fucked is it if it all turns down to which course you do your MBE's with???

So, we all spend dozens and dozens of hours studying for fuck all for it to turn on which course you did...haha.

Those Adaptibar people are stupid. I did 900 questions on Adaptibar with 74.5% accuracy. In still thought today's exam was crazy hard. Not so much because of the law it tested, but because many off the questions seemed to be logic puzzles more than law questions, and most of them had more than one answer that seemed right

[smokeylarue]

I think they are definitely adjusting the test and making the MBE harder. There were a ton of questions that were just weird and nothing similiar to anything I ever saw in Barbri or Emanuel's. This is two or three years in a row now that seems to be vast agreement that it's harder than "usual".

I'm guessing bar passage rates are going to fall again this year (almost every state fell across the board last July, don't know about Feb 2015 but I heard it was difficult) and the law schools are going to cause even more fuss about what NCBE is doing.

[SpeshulSnoflake]

I just don't get it. How can someone take that many practice tests/questions and then not see more than 2-3 questions that look similar to PREVIOUS exam questions? Just doesn't make sense, and if they're going to alter the exam question style that much, they should at least make sure they aren't worded ambiguously.

Yeah, I'm more than a little pissed about it. Working so hard for essentially no benefit is pretty shitty. Why did I even do practice tests at all, they were practically worthless.

[somuchbooty]

I just don't get it. How can someone take that many practice tests/questions and then not see more than 2-3 questions that look similar to PREVIOUS exam questions? Just doesn't make sense, and if they're going to alter the exam question style that much, they should at least make sure they aren't worded ambiguously.

Yeah, I'm more than a little pissed about it. Working so hard for essentially no benefit is pretty shitty. Why did I even do practice tests at all, they were practically worthless.

It doesn't help my anger that I was seated right by a proctor station, so at any given point in time there were 6 proctors pretty much hovering over me whispering or pacing or just staring right at me. Then everyone freaking out b/c a power cord got unplugged or a power strip dies. Very incompetent and unprofessional administration the last two days.