BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY) Forum

[KRose04]

I dunno, I've marked every assignment as complete so I'm at 49% or whatever but I haven't written any essays/MPTs besides the graded ones.

Woohoo. So I'm not alone lol. I haven't written any essays either, except for the graded ones and 1/week for my bar mentor. However, I have been copying the rules from the essays and language that they use, in hopes that I can study from that later, instead of trying to memorize every single rule for every topic

[MCFC]

I dunno, I've marked every assignment as complete so I'm at 49% or whatever but I haven't written any essays/MPTs besides the graded ones.

Woohoo. So I'm not alone lol. I haven't written any essays either, except for the graded ones and 1/week for my bar mentor. However, I have been copying the rules from the essays and language that they use, in hopes that I can study from that later, instead of trying to memorize every single rule for every topic

Yeah I do something similar. When I read through the answers and see a rule I don't know, I make a flashcard for it.

[fauxpsych]

I've been trying to stay honest with the assignments, (ie not marking something finished I didn't do) and I'm at 39% of 50%. I have a ton of "lamp" personal assignments that I've been doing that I don't think factor in, but who knows.

[KRose04]

I've been trying to stay honest with the assignments, (ie not marking something finished I didn't do) and I'm at 39% of 50%. I have a ton of "lamp" personal assignments that I've been doing that I don't think factor in, but who knows.

Yea, they don't count the personal assignments. I haven't been doing those, and I'm at 41%. I am really behind on essays, and I never do the "review" assignments for the next day's lecture

[LionelHutzJD]

I asked a few days ago whether we should assume traditional CL contract modification rules apply for the MBE and someone answered that yes, we should assume traditional CL for the MBE (and i've seen questions assuming traditional CL is at play).

Well, Set4Question1 for K assumes the modern view of contract modifications (modification without consideration K as long as it's fair and equitable in light of unanticipated circumstances). The fact pattern or the question does not say we should apply the modern view. I got it wrong because I used the traditional CL rule.

For those using Adaptibar practicing with real MBEs questions, does it ever say what law we should apply? I'm pretty sure we'll have at least one question on contract modifications.

So I was doing a question set from a release NCBE MBE Sample Test Question sheet and this was one of the questions/answer. It was a K for services with a modification. The correct answer was the modern view.

[mvp99]

I asked a few days ago whether we should assume traditional CL contract modification rules apply for the MBE and someone answered that yes, we should assume traditional CL for the MBE (and i've seen questions assuming traditional CL is at play).

Well, Set4Question1 for K assumes the modern view of contract modifications (modification without consideration K as long as it's fair and equitable in light of unanticipated circumstances). The fact pattern or the question does not say we should apply the modern view. I got it wrong because I used the traditional CL rule.

For those using Adaptibar practicing with real MBEs questions, does it ever say what law we should apply? I'm pretty sure we'll have at least one question on contract modifications.

So I was doing a question set from a release NCBE MBE Sample Test Question sheet and this was one of the questions/answer. It was a K for services with a modification. The correct answer was the modern view.

thanks!

[fauxpsych]

I've been trying to stay honest with the assignments, (ie not marking something finished I didn't do) and I'm at 39% of 50%. I have a ton of "lamp" personal assignments that I've been doing that I don't think factor in, but who knows.

Yea, they don't count the personal assignments. I haven't been doing those, and I'm at 41%. I am really behind on essays, and I never do the "review" assignments for the next day's lecture

Yeah, the essays and MPTs are why I'm really behind as I want to make a good faith effort to write it out.

I wouldn't discount the personal assignments though. I've started to do them and the AMP stuff is really helpful.

[LionelHutzJD]

Is anybody up for meeting up after the simulated exam next week to go over right/wrong answers? It obviously wouldn't be the day of the test, maybe a day or two after. I know for some people (including me) talking to others about our answers is beneficial. I know we are given explanatory answers and analysis videos but this can be done before we read/watch those. I'm up for hosting this at my place in Queens (beer and food included) but I'm also willing to travel. Feel free to PM me.

Also, feel free to call me weird, just gauging interest.

[mvp99]

Critical pass cards 62-63, page 70 of the handout, and a question in the diagnostics test online seem to have different requirements for issue preclusion. Handout and card 62 says its a requirement that it was "actually litigated" and card 63 and online state "a full chance to litigate" or "fair opportunity to be heard." ??

Per Adaptibar for issue preclusion the language we're looking for is "actually litigated"

[Selina Meyer]

Critical pass cards 62-63, page 70 of the handout, and a question in the diagnostics test online seem to have different requirements for issue preclusion. Handout and card 62 says its a requirement that it was "actually litigated" and card 63 and online state "a full chance to litigate" or "fair opportunity to be heard." ??

Per Adaptibar for issue preclusion the language we're looking for is "actually litigated"

Yeah, the "full chance to litigate" thing only comes in when you're looking at nonmutual issue preclusion. There's probably some ridiculous hypo where the distinction might be meaningful, but it pretty much restates the obvious. I'd still mention it in an essay, though, if you have a nonparty trying to use issue preclusion in a later case (especially as a plaintiff).

[mvp99]

just an FYI Adaptibar's civ pro questions seem to be either easy or ridiculously tough (there is this hidden rule that's no where in our Barbri materials). I was extremely happy about my overall average and then it dropped 4% (still better than in Barbri though; barbri questions are more difficult on average). But hey! it's fun, for example, to learn that issue preclusion may be invoked even when the issue was decided originally in equity in federal court (bench trial; so no jury) and there's no 7th amendment violation simply because the SC said so.

[LionelHutzJD]

Some of the questions in Con Law Set 4. Wow, just wow.

[mvp99]

Some of the questions in Con Law Set 4. Wow, just wow.

What's the matter? Some Inception shit going on with the exceptions to the rule on set 4?

[LionelHutzJD]

Some of the questions in Con Law Set 4. Wow, just wow.

What's the matter? Some Inception shit going on with the exceptions to the rule on set 4?

What did you think?

[mvp99]

Some of the questions in Con Law Set 4. Wow, just wow.

What's the matter? Some Inception shit going on with the exceptions to the rule on set 4?

What did you think?

just that. I got wrong 7 questions back to back on set 3.

[arklaw13]

Is the 50 question simulation as difficult as the upcoming 200 question one? Did pretty well on the 50, but am prepared to be disappointed by the 200.

[sublime]

Is the 50 question simulation as difficult as the upcoming 200 question one? Did pretty well on the 50, but am prepared to be disappointed by the 200.

What 50 question simulation?

[Selina Meyer]

Is the 50 question simulation as difficult as the upcoming 200 question one? Did pretty well on the 50, but am prepared to be disappointed by the 200.

What 50 question simulation?

He worked ahead. It's for next week.

[arklaw13]

Is the 50 question simulation as difficult as the upcoming 200 question one? Did pretty well on the 50, but am prepared to be disappointed by the 200.

What 50 question simulation?

On the schedule for tomorrow

Edit: or next week. Oops. I've generally worked ahead on mbe stuff and am saving the mpt and essay stuff for last.

Edit edit: nope, definitely on schedule for tomorrow. 200 question one is for Friday. At least on mine? Thought they were all the same.

[sublime]

Is the 50 question simulation as difficult as the upcoming 200 question one? Did pretty well on the 50, but am prepared to be disappointed by the 200.

What 50 question simulation?

He worked ahead. It's for next week.

Cool. Thanks.

[ArtistOfManliness]

Is the 50 question simulation as difficult as the upcoming 200 question one? Did pretty well on the 50, but am prepared to be disappointed by the 200.

What 50 question simulation?

On the schedule for tomorrow

Edit: or next week. Oops. I've generally worked ahead on mbe stuff and am saving the mpt and essay stuff for last.

Edit edit: nope, definitely on schedule for tomorrow. 200 question one is for Friday. At least on mine? Thought they were all the same.

Are you sure? Cuz mine is definitely scheduled for next week...

[sublime]

Yea, mine is Tues, July 5th as well.

[Selina Meyer]

Yea, mine is Tues, July 5th as well.

I didn't qualify for the gunner schedule either. Damn.

[ballouttacontrol]

I'm in a non-NY UBE state and tomorrow scheduled is the 50 questions, and the next day is the 200 questions. Tbf way too behind to even want to do the 200 question diagnostic yet

No idea... other than we have a higher required score I guess...?

[Selina Meyer]

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