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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by xdeuceswild81xx » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:09 pm

MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ChocolateTruffle » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:43 pm

xdeuceswild81xx wrote:MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?
Everyone will get different questions in their sets. They are tailored for you to work on your weak spots. So not really comparable.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Sheeit » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:15 pm

ChocolateTruffle wrote:
xdeuceswild81xx wrote:MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?
Everyone will get different questions in their sets. They are tailored for you to work on your weak spots. So not really comparable.
Can confirm. I killed PQ set 6, got brutally demolished by PQ set 7. Themis giveth. Themis taketh away.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Fivedham » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:43 pm

xdeuceswild81xx wrote:MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?
The brutal one that everyone freaked out about was Con Law PQ 5, but yes, Mixed 6 was also pretty difficult.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by mu13ski » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:45 pm

Sheeit wrote:
ChocolateTruffle wrote:
xdeuceswild81xx wrote:MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?
Everyone will get different questions in their sets. They are tailored for you to work on your weak spots. So not really comparable.
Can confirm. I killed PQ set 6, got brutally demolished by PQ set 7. Themis giveth. Themis taketh away.
This is the absolute truth.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by bobbypin » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:31 pm

Just finished a MBE PQ set in test mode rather than interactive mode. My score was substantially higher in test mode (68% vs. 90%). I'm not going to take any more PQ sets in interactive. Maybe this will help others?

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by xdeuceswild81xx » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:54 pm

ChocolateTruffle wrote:
xdeuceswild81xx wrote:MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?
Everyone will get different questions in their sets. They are tailored for you to work on your weak spots. So not really comparable.

Never mind then, just me :(

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by unidentifiable » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:05 pm

bobbypin wrote:Just finished a MBE PQ set in test mode rather than interactive mode. My score was substantially higher in test mode (68% vs. 90%). I'm not going to take any more PQ sets in interactive. Maybe this will help others?

been on the test mode train for a while. havent hit 90% though. gimme some of your magic.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by PotLuck » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:32 pm

bobbypin wrote:Just finished a MBE PQ set in test mode rather than interactive mode. My score was substantially higher in test mode (68% vs. 90%). I'm not going to take any more PQ sets in interactive. Maybe this will help others?
God damn, i'd kill for consistent 68s at this point.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ndp1234 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:48 pm

I just got one of those NCBE modified questions, but the real version was in the S&T Book. I guess I fooled the system :lol:

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Virindi » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:54 pm

any CA takers - how are you seperating out CA from MR for professional responsibilities?

is there a chart or something condensed somewhere that i missed?

it feels like the outlines just ramble and there's no clear, coherent way to digest the differences

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by kay2016 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:56 pm

Finally doing the graded MPT, haven't really done any.

These suck.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Vantwins » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:04 pm

Fivedham wrote:
xdeuceswild81xx wrote:MBE PQ set 6 is fucking hard. Not positive, but was this the set everyone was talking about how brutal it was earlier in the thread?
The brutal one that everyone freaked out about was Con Law PQ 5, but yes, Mixed 6 was also pretty difficult.
And I skipped Con Law PQ 5 and went to PQ 6 since everyone hated PQ 5 but Themis was on to me and PQ 5'd my PQ 6 and I got 48%. :( So, yes, I think we aren't all doing the same questions in the same order at this point.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Vantwins » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:08 pm

bobbypin wrote:Just finished a MBE PQ set in test mode rather than interactive mode. My score was substantially higher in test mode (68% vs. 90%). I'm not going to take any more PQ sets in interactive. Maybe this will help others?
Did you say 90%? I practically throw myself a party when I get in the 70s on a PQ set.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by blach0987 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:13 pm

Does anyone have a good way of memorizing/keeping clear in your mind the joinder of parties and joinder of claims? Plus considering the diversity jurisdiction and federal question nuances. The cross claims, counterclaims, intervention, impleader, and interpleader....

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by psm11 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:23 pm

Virindi wrote:any CA takers - how are you seperating out CA from MR for professional responsibilities?

is there a chart or something condensed somewhere that i missed?

it feels like the outlines just ramble and there's no clear, coherent way to digest the differences
Literally going though all the the Themis PR model answers and copying and pasting the CA distinctions used in those into a word doc and going to memorize. I figure they are the most heavily tested distinctions and would be most efficient to memorize them.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by bobbypin » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:23 pm

blach0987 wrote:Does anyone have a good way of memorizing/keeping clear in your mind the joinder of parties and joinder of claims? Plus considering the diversity jurisdiction and federal question nuances. The cross claims, counterclaims, intervention, impleader, and interpleader....
So, pretty much everything about civ pro? :wink:

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by blach0987 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:27 pm

bobbypin wrote:
blach0987 wrote:Does anyone have a good way of memorizing/keeping clear in your mind the joinder of parties and joinder of claims? Plus considering the diversity jurisdiction and federal question nuances. The cross claims, counterclaims, intervention, impleader, and interpleader....
So, pretty much everything about civ pro? :wink:
:D yeah...can someone just implant civ pro into my brain? I went over the FRO for civ pro and my notes again and I'm still just a big question mark. I want to figure out a way to remember it in a way that makes sense.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by UMich11 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:31 pm

Just got a call from the MI themis rep (i'm doing MI bar) said i'm on track to hit 75% (at 65% and haven't done MBE or Essay exam) and that i'm doing fine on the MBE and Essays.

Anyone in Michigan care to share how they're doing? I'm at average of 58% on MBE and most essay scores are between 50% and 70%, though some outliers very low. Seems like i'm not hitting my stride though.

Doing Adaptibar too and i'm at 63% average there.

Currently going through all michigan distinctions and typing up an outline based on Themis outline and lecture notes. making comments on Critical Pass cards for MBE subjects.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by bobbypin » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:40 pm

blach0987 wrote:
bobbypin wrote:
blach0987 wrote:Does anyone have a good way of memorizing/keeping clear in your mind the joinder of parties and joinder of claims? Plus considering the diversity jurisdiction and federal question nuances. The cross claims, counterclaims, intervention, impleader, and interpleader....
So, pretty much everything about civ pro? :wink:
:D yeah...can someone just implant civ pro into my brain? I went over the FRO for civ pro and my notes again and I'm still just a big question mark. I want to figure out a way to remember it in a way that makes sense.
Dude, I wish I could help. That's my weakest subject. I'm only getting 60% of those correct.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Chardee_MacDennis » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:44 pm

I know it will probably be only one/maybe none/no more than two questions on the MBE, but the Rule Against Perpetuities can eat a fat one.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Vantwins » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:46 pm

Chardee_MacDennis wrote:I know it will probably be only one/maybe none/no more than two questions on the MBE, but the Rule Against Perpetuities can eat a fat one.
I'm not even bothering with it - 1 or 2 questions on MBE and not tested for MD essays. I always get confused with who is the measuring life. My best friend has practiced trusts and estates for 13 years now and she thinks it's fun. It takes all kinds.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ndp1234 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:04 pm

Vantwins wrote:
Chardee_MacDennis wrote:I know it will probably be only one/maybe none/no more than two questions on the MBE, but the Rule Against Perpetuities can eat a fat one.
I'm not even bothering with it - 1 or 2 questions on MBE and not tested for MD essays. I always get confused with who is the measuring life. My best friend has practiced trusts and estates for 13 years now and she thinks it's fun. It takes all kinds.
Be careful. It could be tested in the Trusts essay if there is one. Trusts includes future interests and RAP as well.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by BigZuck » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:26 pm

Goal of 70% on the Mixed Set of 100 in the book is an A+ troll job, even by Themis' already lofty standards

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by BarPreppin'12 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:12 am

BigZuck wrote:Goal of 70% on the Mixed Set of 100 in the book is an A+ troll job, even by Themis' already lofty standards

I agree. They have,essentially, put me out of reach of any future goal.

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