Yes! my mind can't stop going through elements. i think i need to get some chamomile/sleepy time tea or pound nyquil. last night when i finally did make it to dream land i was walking up to the test center and the whole themis professor crew were out there cheering and giving me an attaboylexingtonhr wrote:Has anybody started sleeping like shit lately? Ugh.. I hate this exam.
it was pretty exciting! kind of disappointed it's likely not going to happen that way.THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING THESE DAYS. It's such a luck game. Also when they test racehorse type questions it's all about who can type the fastest and less about knowing the rules and how to analyze them.Animal_Activist wrote:Screw this exam. I really don't see how people pass except for getting LUCKY and getting essays they KNOW. There is no other way to pass this shit. You can learn everything. Understand everything. You still will not pass if there is an essay cross over with three subjects all testing smaller sub areas. I have a statistically better chance with a one shot game of Russian Roulette.
On a more serious note, I hope all of you are doing well studying. Don't know if this time will be the breakthrough. But I am starting to think that making up rule statements and analyzing them is a strategy that has to apply on Day 1. I don't see how I can be ready to catch and accurately recite rule statements for everything.
I’m inclined to agree with you. Some essays seem alright and then you get hit with something they have never tested or test rarely and it just makes you realize they really will test anything they want. It’s terrifying.Animal_Activist wrote:Screw this exam. I really don't see how people pass except for getting LUCKY and getting essays they KNOW. There is no other way to pass this shit. You can learn everything. Understand everything. You still will not pass if there is an essay cross over with three subjects all testing smaller sub areas. I have a statistically better chance with a one shot game of Russian Roulette.
On a more serious note, I hope all of you are doing well studying. Don't know if this time will be the breakthrough. But I am starting to think that making up rule statements and analyzing them is a strategy that has to apply on Day 1. I don't see how I can be ready to catch and accurately recite rule statements for everything.
To be fair, racehorse exams benefit the people who know the rules well enough that the can type them quickly without having to give them much thought. They tend to hurt the people who have to sit there making stuff up, since it takes significantly longer to create a rule that sounds right out of thin air. You don't win a racehorse exam by simply typing a bunch of nonsense quickly. You have to know what to type. If anything, they really differentiate between the people who have the law down pat, and the people who don't.wildmadagascar wrote:It's such a luck game. Also when they test racehorse type questions it's all about who can type the fastest and less about knowing the rules and how to analyze them.
How would that be mean? You analyze the four types of preemption (express, conflict, object, and field). That's not complicated.crtxlaw wrote:I could also see them doing a supremacy clause essay just to be mean.
Why in the world are you doing that? Unless something has drastically changed, the bar only really tests 15b fraud, insider trading, and short swing sales. Those are the only regs you probably need to know, and they can be learned by reading a few pages in your commercial outline. Just learn that stuff and move onto the other corporate stuff. I highly doubt the bar will go all in on random SEC regulations. If they do, it would be in a PT where they give you the law. That sounds like a horrible way to be spending your final days studying.wildmadagascar wrote:I'm spending so much time learning sec reg. I hope it's not for nothing.
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Same here. Sometimes, I will be drifting off and then my mind goes through a hypothetical scenario and I'm analyzing the facts... Can't wait until this is over. I don't feel human.ipsares wrote:Yes! my mind can't stop going through elements. i think i need to get some chamomile/sleepy time tea or pound nyquil. last night when i finally did make it to dream land i was walking up to the test center and the whole themis professor crew were out there cheering and giving me an attaboylexingtonhr wrote:Has anybody started sleeping like shit lately? Ugh.. I hate this exam.
Yes it’s very easy to be dropped off and there are parking garages around it.mercury17 wrote:Hi, for those of you who are familiar with Pasadena Convention Center,
Is it easy to pull over a car and being dropped off by the convention center or do they block the street around the center...? Any advice please? I am also considering driving myself too, but wonder how parking situation would be for those days... Thanks!
Wow these are unbelievably high...how did you do on barbris simulated mbe (if you’re taking barbri?)ipsares wrote:Exam 1 (OPE 1 2006) 6/29/19 100 85% DeleteLawIsLife wrote:Has anyone done the OPE sets on adaptibar/NCBE or the study sets? How is everyone scoring? How accurate are these with respect to our score?
Exam 2 (OPE 2 2009) 7/4/19 100 83% Delete
Exam 3 (OPE 3 2011) 7/5/19 100 96% Delete
Exam 4 (OPE 4 2013) 7/6/19 100 78% Delete
Exam 5 7/17/19 100 84%
i think they are on the easy side - also my scores are inflated because repeats from themis.
That absolutely does not mean that. 119/175 is only roughly 68% of the questions answered correctly. That's about the lowest score you can get on the MBE to be on track to pass the exam. If you get that MBE score, you'd need to average a score of 62.5 on all your essays and PT.Happy88 wrote:Guys, for grading, if I score a 119/175 on the MBE (I.e. 144) does that mean I pass the whole exam without the essays? Or I need to have a score of 144 on the MBE and essays? Or is the 144 split between the two? Can someone please explain?
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You are correctchrisokc wrote:Am I correct that the practice test carries twice the weight of one essay (200 possible points versus 100)?
Naw taking Themis - many questions repeated - or same style same rule tested - so they up there - overall themis im at like 68% and overall adaptibar at 75% because i do those later.LawIsLife wrote:
Wow these are unbelievably high...how did you do on barbris simulated mbe (if you’re taking barbri?)
Based on my understanding, reformation requires a valid K, meeting of the mind.Confusedlawkid wrote:I have a question regarding remedies.
I see everywhere that Rescission requires: (1) grounds for rescission and (2) no valid defenses, and Reformation requires: (1) a valid contract, (2) grounds for reformation, and (3) no valid defenses. Barbri even tells us Good Dog and Very Good Dog to remember the differences.
My questions is: Why does every essay answer go through a valid contract analysis for rescission if it doesn't seem to require it? I get that you wouldn't be trying to rescind a contract if it didn't exist, but I don't understand why they emphasize Valid contract for reformation and not for Rescission.
FWIW I'm doing (Barbri, Baressays, and have magicsheets). I felt like the lecturer in barbri was confusing and I seem to struggle with this topic as a whole.
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The examiners want to see that you know the elements to a valid contract, and probably want to see that you know the other defenses, remedies, and excuses that are available. I don't think there are any essays out there that only have rescission as the sole issue.Confusedlawkid wrote:I have a question regarding remedies.
I see everywhere that Rescission requires: (1) grounds for rescission and (2) no valid defenses, and Reformation requires: (1) a valid contract, (2) grounds for reformation, and (3) no valid defenses. Barbri even tells us Good Dog and Very Good Dog to remember the differences.
My questions is: Why does every essay answer go through a valid contract analysis for rescission if it doesn't seem to require it? I get that you wouldn't be trying to rescind a contract if it didn't exist, but I don't understand why they emphasize Valid contract for reformation and not for Rescission.
Me. My hotel is literally across the parking lot so I'm probably going to spend my break there lol.ipsares wrote:anyone taking in ontario? i signed up late and it was the only place with laptop seats available. looks like its going to be a toasty 100 all week. lunch should be fun.
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Thank you! That makes sense.Bingo_Bongo wrote:The examiners want to see that you know the elements to a valid contract, and probably want to see that you know the other defenses, remedies, and excuses that are available. I don't think there are any essays out there that only have rescission as the sole issue.Confusedlawkid wrote:I have a question regarding remedies.
I see everywhere that Rescission requires: (1) grounds for rescission and (2) no valid defenses, and Reformation requires: (1) a valid contract, (2) grounds for reformation, and (3) no valid defenses. Barbri even tells us Good Dog and Very Good Dog to remember the differences.
My questions is: Why does every essay answer go through a valid contract analysis for rescission if it doesn't seem to require it? I get that you wouldn't be trying to rescind a contract if it didn't exist, but I don't understand why they emphasize Valid contract for reformation and not for Rescission.
In any event, there's nothing to rescind if there's no valid contract. I think BARBRI's point might be to try to get you to remember that rescission undoes a contract, and reformation changes a contract. A "valid contract" isn't so much an element that's present in one and not the other...
I took the exam in Ontario. It was hot but IIRC they kept it glaciar cold inside. I'm pretty sure I wore the jacket of my velour tracksuit. If possible, I'd dress in layers and pack a lunch.ipsares wrote:anyone taking in ontario? i signed up late and it was the only place with laptop seats available. looks like its going to be a toasty 100 all week. lunch should be fun.
The Weather Channel is forecasting 90 on Tuesday and 88 on Wednesday—not that bad. Carry a lunch or have one back in your room...you do not want to be stressed about lunch. I took a catnap during lunch. You can wear an analog watch, and on essay day, you can use the timer in Examplify, which I found helpful because it warned when the hour for the essay was up. Bring lots of sharp pencils because bubbling is faster and more precise with a sharp pencil—I changed about every 15 questions.rcharter1978 wrote:I took the exam in Ontario. It was hot but IIRC they kept it glaciar cold inside. I'm pretty sure I wore the jacket of my velour tracksuit. If possible, I'd dress in layers and pack a lunch.ipsares wrote:anyone taking in ontario? i signed up late and it was the only place with laptop seats available. looks like its going to be a toasty 100 all week. lunch should be fun.
I'm sure most places staff appropriately, but unless it's changed, they have a jack in the box and an in and out for fast food options. There is a del taco or taco Bell up vineyard, but youd have to pay to repark and it's not walking distance. There is a grocery store up vineyard...maybe two.....if you want to pick up something before the test.
ALSO. As I remember it they did not have a clock. It was ridiculous, if you don't have one, pick up a travel clock. There was one at Walmart for like $5 that met the requirements.
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