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How did the MBE go, compared to your expectation?

A lot easier than I expected.
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Somewhat easier than I expected.
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About how I expected.
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Somewhat harder than I expected.
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A lot harder than I expected.
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by robinhoodOO » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:39 am

trustmouse83 wrote:
Florence Night wrote:
gr8scOtt! wrote:AM was very hard. There were only a couple that I was confident that I was choosing the correct answer. PM started off a lot easier but seemed to get hard very quickly (but that could be attributed to fatigue). Overall, I felt like I was guessing on 90% of them. I usually had a lot of extra time in my practice sets, but came down to the wire for the AM and made it out just before the 15 minute mark in the PM. A LOT of people were leaving early for both the AM and PM, so I'm glad to see others here were also like WTF MBE, because I thought maybe it was just me that was struggling.

I had a bunch of D answers in a row in the AM and after rereading the questions/answers two more times, I stuck with my answer choices and came to the conclusion that they were trying to mess with my head :P
The first 50 Qs in the AM were a nightmare for me. PM absolutely easier, but still very difficult.

Definitely didn't help that the dude on my right finished both sessions in 1:45. Super genius or insta-fail.
I finished the 4 simulated exams in 2hours 2, 2 hours 10, and 2 in 2 hours 20.

I finished the real thing yesterday both at 2hrs 40.

I got out of dodge before I started going back over the thing.
This was exactly my case: I was finishing 100 sets, the midterm, and final during prep between 2 hours to 2 hours 20 minutes. Finished both sets yesterday with 20 minutes left.

When I walked out, I noticed people with lots of MBE's left. Way too many to finish. And some friends reported seeing several people with several Q's left and having to guess through the last 5 or so at the 30 second mark

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Ahyis » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:48 am

Who's ready to get out there and make some EARNEST GOD DAMN MONEY?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by zot1 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:52 am

Ahyis wrote:Who's ready to get out there and make some EARNEST GOD DAMN MONEY?
I've been trying to figure out what tattoo to get for the longest time. I think I got it:

"Earnest Money, Bitches"

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by UnamSanctam » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:52 am

I felt bad. Now I will be lazy for a month.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by dwmash » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:54 am

What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by zot1 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:55 am

dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
I would also say they were different than Themis.

Also, Themis did an incredibly bad job at guessing what the Civ Pro questions would be like.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by SpeshulSnoflake » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:06 am

zot1 wrote:
dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
I would also say they were different than Themis.

Also, Themis did an incredibly bad job at guessing what the Civ Pro questions would be like.
Same thing with Kaplan. I was killing the Qbank but yesterday, not so much.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by gr8scOtt! » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:08 am

zot1 wrote:
dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
I would also say they were different than Themis.

Also, Themis did an incredibly bad job at guessing what the Civ Pro questions would be like.
Themis' Civ Pro questions were all diversity jurisdiction with a few other things thrown in. NOTHING like what was actually on the bar. I laughed to myself and then chose whatever seemed like the common sense answer :lol:

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Mad Hatter » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:16 am

dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
Sure, if you knew what the Moorman doctrine was...

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by zot1 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:16 am

gr8scOtt! wrote:
zot1 wrote:
dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
I would also say they were different than Themis.

Also, Themis did an incredibly bad job at guessing what the Civ Pro questions would be like.
Themis' Civ Pro questions were all diversity jurisdiction with a few other things thrown in. NOTHING like what was actually on the bar. I laughed to myself and then chose whatever seemed like the common sense answer :lol:
Pretty much. I thought I knew Civ Pro because I had been doing so well in the Themis questions. I realize now those were SO easy.

Oh well. We can dwell on this as much as we want, it won't change a thing. Let's just hope we all did bad enough to carry us through. That's how it works, right?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by steele » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:18 am

I got a 170 scaled score on last year's MBE. I thought last years MBE was tough but there were only like 10-15 questions on the MBE that were totally off the wall on topics we never learned with Barbri.

Took the bar in a different state this year that didn't transfer my MBE score. i felt that there were maybe 30 questions yesterday where I was completely like wtf I've never learned this in two years of bar studying. I did study less this year but I don't think extra studying would have helped with many of those questions. Also every Barbri civ pro MBE practice question being on either jurisdiction venue and service didn't really help me for the real civ pro questions.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by tepper » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:22 am

I took the bar in July 2014, used barbri for prep. I came out of the MBE feeling like what the fuck just happened, and was pretty convinced that I failed. However, I passed.

I think it's very much your brain messing with you, you remember the shit show but you don't remember the easy ones. I suggest everyone just leave this at rest for now. Enjoy the break you have until work starts! Seriously, you don't want to worry about this shit for the next few months.

Chances are, the VAST majority of you TLS nerds passed.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by SpeshulSnoflake » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:25 am

zot1 wrote:
gr8scOtt! wrote:
zot1 wrote:
dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
I would also say they were different than Themis.

Also, Themis did an incredibly bad job at guessing what the Civ Pro questions would be like.
Themis' Civ Pro questions were all diversity jurisdiction with a few other things thrown in. NOTHING like what was actually on the bar. I laughed to myself and then chose whatever seemed like the common sense answer :lol:
Pretty much. I thought I knew Civ Pro because I had been doing so well in the Themis questions. I realize now those were SO easy.

Oh well. We can dwell on this as much as we want, it won't change a thing. Let's just hope we all did bad enough to carry us through. That's how it works, right?
God I hope so. Everyone at work is congratulating me for finishing the exam and I have to hedge my bets, basically saying "I think I passed, but if I failed the bar passage rate [of my state] is going to be way down this year". Maybe everyone feels this way every year but I definitely get the impression we got walloped this year.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by anon sequitur » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:46 am

zot1 wrote:I would also say they were different than Themis.

Also, Themis did an incredibly bad job at guessing what the Civ Pro questions would be like.
I thought Themis was pretty on point for its questions overall, but yeah, they didn't prepare us for the Civ Pro areas the MBE asked about.

I'm glad to have seen so many actual MBE questions rather than simulated ones like other companies used. Sure there were some (maybe quite a few) questions that seemed different in style, but overall I felt the questions were pretty typical of what I'd come to expect, though I had really held out hope that there would be more straight up easy questions, and fewer ridiculous ones.

I think the biggest problem we all have is that we've all gotten used to seeing the answers soon after doing a question. There were lots of horrible, bullshit questions on those question sets too, it's just that some of them ended up being fairly "easy" in terms of the percentage of people who get them right, just because there was one really bad answer that was better than the three terrible answers.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by skers » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:14 am

Mad Hatter wrote:
dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.
Sure, if you knew what the Moorman doctrine was...
lol. I had the exact same reaction.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Bubbles 4 Life » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:18 am

I went into this MBE the same way I did for bar exams I took in other states. I went through the entire test once and answered the 35-40 questions with a pretty high amount of certainty. I then went back through and decided on the remaining 60ish 50/50 questions. My hope is to hit half of those 50/50 questions and score somewhere around 65-70 for each portion, which would get a 130-140. Throw in the curve bonus points and everything should work out fine.

In terms of difficulty, I thought it was easier than the February MBE, but still much harder than anything in the prep company Qbanks.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by NYKfanAIesq » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:32 am

Did anyone use the PMBR redbook? If so, how did you feel compared to the actual MBE questions during this year's bar exam? I thought the MBE questions were easier than the PMBR questions, but then again I could have been missing issues or something..

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by jaysnooginz » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:34 am

wrongful death + res judicata = precluded?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by jaysnooginz » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:35 am

And just to confirm, in my AM exam my first row of answers had like 10-14 D's and it freaked me out . . . .

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Post by Bubbles 4 Life » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:42 am

jaysnooginz wrote:And just to confirm, in my AM exam my first row of answers had like 10-14 D's and it freaked me out . . . .
There were at least 10 orders of questions due to 10 different versions of books, so you'd have to be more specific.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by NYKfanAIesq » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:47 am

i had 4-5 D's in a row in the afternoon session at the very end of the 100 question set.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by bluewin888 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:02 pm

Mbe is not bad and interesting.
Love real estate questions.


Ny essays and mpt not easy ,,,,time too tight. Cannot write a lot due to time limit. :mrgreen:



dwmash wrote:What in the world happened yesterday?

Those questions were drastically different than Barbri's practice questions and sim MBE.

IL essays were a breeze but that MBE was freaking ridiculous.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by History_Buff » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:04 pm

jaysnooginz wrote:And just to confirm, in my AM exam my first row of answers had like 10-14 D's and it freaked me out . . . .
This seems like a common theme and it makes me feel pretty good that I had a lot of D's too. We probably had the same form.

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Post by bluewin888 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:10 pm

History_Buff wrote:
jaysnooginz wrote:And just to confirm, in my AM exam my first row of answers had like 10-14 D's and it freaked me out . . . .
I have 4-5 d for the morning. 2nd column. This seems like a common theme and it makes me feel pretty good that I had a lot of D's too. We probably had the same form.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Lobolaw1984 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:06 pm

LAW813FL wrote:
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beastienoise wrote:I'm probably in the minority, but I didnt think it was that bad. I think part of the collective perception of difficulty is probably just a result of remembering hard questions and not the easy ones. When I finished both sessions I remember thinking there were a ton of close calls and that the exam had been hard, but when I went back and counted up the questions, I had marked over 50% as ones I was 95-100% confident on and only 25% or so as 50/50 toss ups with the rest inbetween. Even though I had been marking easy questions as I went along I had totally forgotten about them until I went back.

I also thought the Barbri questions weren't that far off from what we saw. I tested pretty well on the Barbri exams though (169 simulated and 78 refresher) and have always focused more on memorizing BLL than improving through seeing more questions, so YMMV.
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