anshulkalra wrote:Congrats to all who passed!
I am a Uk educated (foreign applicant) first time taker. I failed the bar exam by 8 points. My raw score on MBE was 122.4 and written average was 52.4. I am planning to re-take exam in July 2015. Do you guys think my raw score on MBE was too low? Or do you think the average on essays was low as well? I need to find out where I went wrong so I can tailor study strategy for the july exam.
I thought my essay portion of the exam went very well. During my themis course I used to get around 75 (average) on all graded essay. I am shocked to learn that I scored as low as a 42 in one of the essays.
Also, I took Themis course to study. Is there anyone who took themis for NY bar and passed?
Would highly appreciate some constructive feedback?
Hi, I am also UK educated with an LLB, took the bar exam last July and got 662 (124 MBE, 5.2 average on essays). I took Barbri and they also gave me super high essay scores every time I submitted one, which really gave me a lot of confidence but also genuine disbelief when I got 4.6 on one of the essays in the actual exam. I'm sorry you failed, I know the feeling, especially when you know that passing is attainable.
Here is my feedback:
NY: The best thing to do is practice ALL the past papers until about 2008 (or more if you wish), and read every single answer on the Bole website. They give you the best guidance on what the examiners think is a good/above average score. I did every single essay (prob about 90 total), sometimes under timed conditions and other times to issue spot/lay out skeleton plan. You will see they test a lot of the same stuff over and over.
For MBE: I was told my scaled 124 score was low. I wasn't that good at multiple choice in general so last summer I did every single MC question available to me (Barbri, Emanuel) which was around 3000 questions total, so I was further surprised that I got that low score. Barbri tells you to get an average of 126 raw.
This time round, I did all the same Barbri MC questions they provided, plus Kaplan & Peiper books (about 4500 total) - if you know people doing different providers, swap books and questions, which is what I did and saved a lot of $$. I got 141 in Feb and passed. I worked my little arse off to get that score, it was no easy feat for me.
Practice is KEY, do every single question available to you. I really believe it's the best way to passing NY bar.
Also, for my second round with Barbri (second time if free), I took it online and did everything all over again - I watched every single lecture again, took notes all over again....everything actually! I really found that it helped, especially to remind me again of all the content. Watching the lectures second time round also made a lot more sense to me, things seemed clearer and also it helped with memorizing. I followed their course exactly like I did the first time, but about two weeks ahead of schedule, which gave me additional time nearer the exam to cram and practice past papers.
Please let me know if you have questions, I'm happy to help in anyway I can. Failing last July left me at such a low point, so if I can help anyone else avoid that then I will do my best!
P.S for someone with a foreign education: YOU DID INCREDIBLE!! I know it doesn't seem like it right now, but that score you got is so great for someone who doesn't have a US JD. Seriously, well done mate!