2019 July California Bar Forum

[wildmadagascar]

Thanks but I am asking about the Strategies & Tactics book. Does anyone know if the questions in the subject-specific question (50-60 of of them) are only the most difficult of questions? There don’t seem to be any softballs.

Sorry, I don't have an answer to your question but I'm freaking out. I also have the S&T book which I haven't touched yet bc I was doing fine in Barbri. I don't have time to get to MBE right now bc I'm struggling very hard with the essays. I need more time ugh

[ReasonablePersonSSC]

I am enrolled in BARBRI and also bought the S&T MBE book by Emanuel. I am scoring 70%+ on BARBRI consistently. When I go to the subject-specific question sets in S&T, I am getting 50%.

Does anyone know if the questions in the topic-specific section are only the 7-10s difficulty wise?

I found the S&T questions to be very similar to what I encountered on the actual exam in July 2018. In fact I recognized some of the fact patterns...I am sure the call, the options were different, but the facts were similar. S&T questions are actual, albeit retired, questions so practicing them helps you get into the rhythm of the questions. S&T explanations taught me the nuances of the law and helped me with rule statements for essays. I thought most of the S&T questions were difficult the first time through them.

[hastingsgal]

I am enrolled in BARBRI and also bought the S&T MBE book by Emanuel. I am scoring 70%+ on BARBRI consistently. When I go to the subject-specific question sets in S&T, I am getting 50%.

Does anyone know if the questions in the topic-specific section are only the 7-10s difficulty wise?

I found the S&T questions to be very similar to what I encountered on the actual exam in July 2018. In fact I recognized some of the fact patterns...I am sure the call, the options were different, but the facts were similar. S&T questions are actual, albeit retired, questions so practicing them helps you get into the rhythm of the questions. S&T explanations taught me the nuances of the law and helped me with rule statements for essays. I thought most of the S&T questions were difficult the first time through them.

S&T is basically the same licensed questions that adaptibar uses right?

[wildmadagascar]

I am enrolled in BARBRI and also bought the S&T MBE book by Emanuel. I am scoring 70%+ on BARBRI consistently. When I go to the subject-specific question sets in S&T, I am getting 50%.

Does anyone know if the questions in the topic-specific section are only the 7-10s difficulty wise?

Hey I freaked out after seeing your post so I did the Practice MBE in the back of S&T and scored about the same as I do on Barbri (78%). I don't think I'll have time to do the subject questions but maybe you should try doing the MBE in the back and see if your scores are still different? I did find S&T questions a little more difficult (and longer!!!) though, contrary to what everyone else says.

[ipsares]

Just for fun essay predictions:

1 - Contracts/Remedies
2 - Crim Law/Crim Pro
3 - Corps/PR
4 - Con Law/Prop
5 - Torts/Remedies
6- PT will be a draft about unemployment benefits and involuntary resignations

ALL crossovers ALL Day!!!!!

[Crtxlaw]

Just for fun essay predictions:

1 - Contracts/Remedies
2 - Crim Law/Crim Pro
3 - Corps/PR
4 - Con Law/Prop
5 - Torts/Remedies
6- PT will be a draft about unemployment benefits and involuntary resignations

ALL crossovers ALL Day!!!!!

Omg plz no

[Pema]

Q

CA RPC 4-210 A (2) A lawyer is not prohibited... After employment, from lending money to the client upon the client’s promise in writing to repay such loan.

Not sure about "after employment." Does it literally mean loans to a client are allowed after employment only and not during representation on a matter? Based on the rules and case law "after employment" is difficult to define. Any thoughts for the purposes of the exam? Thanks.

[Satoshi]

Does anyone know what essay predictions 'BarGuru' predicted for this term?
They normally post them about one week before the exam...

[2k16L1]

Just for fun essay predictions:

1 - Contracts/Remedies
2 - Crim Law/Crim Pro
3 - Corps/PR
4 - Con Law/Prop
5 - Torts/Remedies
6- PT will be a draft about unemployment benefits and involuntary resignations

ALL crossovers ALL Day!!!!!

Omg plz no

No...no more than 2 crossovers pls. I can see Contracts/Remedies and Corps/PR happening.

[265489164158]

Q

CA RPC 4-210 A (2) A lawyer is not prohibited... After employment, from lending money to the client upon the client’s promise in writing to repay such loan.

Not sure about "after employment." Does it literally mean loans to a client are allowed after employment only and not during representation on a matter? Based on the rules and case law "after employment" is difficult to define. Any thoughts for the purposes of the exam? Thanks.

After employment here means after the lawyer has obtained the representation. The idea is we are not supposed to give out loans to secure the business.

[Pema]

Q

CA RPC 4-210 A (2) A lawyer is not prohibited... After employment, from lending money to the client upon the client’s promise in writing to repay such loan.

Not sure about "after employment." Does it literally mean loans to a client are allowed after employment only and not during representation on a matter? Based on the rules and case law "after employment" is difficult to define. Any thoughts for the purposes of the exam? Thanks.

After employment here means after the lawyer has obtained the representation. The idea is we are not supposed to give out loans to secure the business.

Great. Thank you.

[ardg12]

Have you guys received your admission ticket yet via email to sit for the exam? I am yet to get anything, Not sure if they changed it with this new PORTAL integration, we have to do DL the,. I am going to check there today....

[2k16L1]

Have you guys received your admission ticket yet via email to sit for the exam? I am yet to get anything, Not sure if they changed it with this new PORTAL integration, we have to do DL the,. I am going to check there today....

I got mine in an email about 2 weeks ago

[jc9812]

Are the BarSecrets predictions accurate / worth paying attention to?

[jc9812]

Does anyone know what essay predictions 'BarGuru' predicted for this term?
They normally post them about one week before the exam...

Assuming this is what you're talking about


https://www.reddit.com/r/barexam/commen ... briefly_1/

[2k16L1]

Does anyone know what essay predictions 'BarGuru' predicted for this term?
They normally post them about one week before the exam...

Assuming this is what you're talking about


https://www.reddit.com/r/barexam/commen ... briefly_1/

There were only 4 essays predicted.

[jc9812]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out if I should be devoting extra time to these subjects/sub-topics within the subjects, or not.

[Bingo_Bongo]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out if I should be devoting extra time to these subjects/sub-topics within the subjects, or not.

No. Study all the subjects. That's the only way to know for sure that you'll be able to cover all your bases no matter what question is thrown at you. You're playing Russian roulette if you hyper-focus only on predicted subjects.

And anyone who claims an ability to predict essay subjects is a charlatan. Sometimes people will get lucky and manage to hit them right on the head. Those same people will sometimes get them 100% wrong. More often than not, they'll get something in between. Anyone can do it.

You can look at essay frequency charts all you want, but they don't follow any patterns. Sometimes they'll ask a subject five times in a row. Sometimes they'll go close to ten years without testing a subject.

[jc9812]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out if I should be devoting extra time to these subjects/sub-topics within the subjects, or not.

No. Study all the subjects. That's the only way to know for sure that you'll be able to cover all your bases no matter what question is thrown at you. You're playing Russian roulette if you hyper-focus only on predicted subjects.

And anyone who claims an ability to predict essay subjects is a charlatan. Sometimes people will get lucky and manage to hit them right on the head. Those same people will sometimes get them 100% wrong. More often than not, they'll get something in between. Anyone can do it.

You can look at essay frequency charts all you want, but they don't follow any patterns. Sometimes they'll ask a subject five times in a row. Sometimes they'll go close to ten years without testing a subject.

Yeah this makes sense, thanks. I've been studying everything equally up until now, guess I'll just finish out the same way.

[hastingsgal]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out if I should be devoting extra time to these subjects/sub-topics within the subjects, or not.

No. Study all the subjects. That's the only way to know for sure that you'll be able to cover all your bases no matter what question is thrown at you. You're playing Russian roulette if you hyper-focus only on predicted subjects.

And anyone who claims an ability to predict essay subjects is a charlatan. Sometimes people will get lucky and manage to hit them right on the head. Those same people will sometimes get them 100% wrong. More often than not, they'll get something in between. Anyone can do it.

You can look at essay frequency charts all you want, but they don't follow any patterns. Sometimes they'll ask a subject five times in a row. Sometimes they'll go close to ten years without testing a subject.

100% agree. It's random.

[LawIsLife]

Has anyone done the OPE sets on adaptibar/NCBE or the study sets? How is everyone scoring? How accurate are these with respect to our score?

[ipsares]

Has anyone done the OPE sets on adaptibar/NCBE or the study sets? How is everyone scoring? How accurate are these with respect to our score?

Exam 1 (OPE 1 2006) 6/29/19 100 85% Delete
Exam 2 (OPE 2 2009) 7/4/19 100 83% Delete
Exam 3 (OPE 3 2011) 7/5/19 100 96% Delete
Exam 4 (OPE 4 2013) 7/6/19 100 78% Delete
Exam 5 7/17/19 100 84%

i think they are on the easy side - also my scores are inflated because repeats from themis.

[2k16L1]

Has anyone done the OPE sets on adaptibar/NCBE or the study sets? How is everyone scoring? How accurate are these with respect to our score?

Exam 1 (OPE 1 2006) 6/29/19 100 85% Delete
Exam 2 (OPE 2 2009) 7/4/19 100 83% Delete
Exam 3 (OPE 3 2011) 7/5/19 100 96% Delete
Exam 4 (OPE 4 2013) 7/6/19 100 78% Delete
Exam 5 7/17/19 100 84%

i think they are on the easy side - also my scores are inflated because repeats from themis.

I've done OPE 1-2 so far and they're on the easier side. Plus no civ pro.

[Animal_Activist]

Screw this exam. I really don't see how people pass except for getting LUCKY and getting essays they KNOW. There is no other way to pass this shit. You can learn everything. Understand everything. You still will not pass if there is an essay cross over with three subjects all testing smaller sub areas. I have a statistically better chance with a one shot game of Russian Roulette.

On a more serious note, I hope all of you are doing well studying. Don't know if this time will be the breakthrough. But I am starting to think that making up rule statements and analyzing them is a strategy that has to apply on Day 1. I don't see how I can be ready to catch and accurately recite rule statements for everything.

[lexingtonhr]

Has anybody started sleeping like shit lately? Ugh.. I hate this exam.