July 2016 Texas Bar Exam Forum

[genxwindex]

Does anyone know if we get a "free point" on the essays? A 1 to 10 scale, for example, as opposed to 0 to 10.

Trusts, Guardianship, Agency, and Partnership seem deceptively easy, at least in the scheme of things

Corporations is okay

Wills and Estates, Secured Transactions, and Commercial Paper I have no clue what is going on

[0lol]

pretty sure u get like 10 free points on a 1 to 25 scale

[0lol]

HTH:


Feb 10: fam, fam, oil, prop, DTPA, guardian, corp, corp, Secured transactions, Commercial papers, wills, wills
July 10: k/UCC2, secured transactions, family law, fam, corp, corp, will, will, trust,dtpa, prop, oil
Feb 11: wills, wills, prop, oil/prop, corp, fam, fam, secured transactions, commercial papers, trust, dtpa
July 11: wills, wills, comm paper, security interests, trust,dtpa, fam, fam, prop, oil, corp, corp
Feb 12: wills, wills, corp, corp, prop, prop, dtpa, guardian, n/a,n/a, fam, fam
July 12: corp, corp, na, na, com papers, secured transactions, fam, fam, prop,prop, will, will
Feb 13: oil, prop, ucc3/9, ucc2, will, will, corp, corp, fam, fam, dtpa, guardian
J 13: wills, wills, ucc3, ucc9, prop (ll/t), oil, guardian, dtpa (insur), fam, fam, corp, corp
F14: fam, fam, ucc9, ucc3, corp, corp, wills, wills, prop, oil, trust, dtpa (insu)

[JS281]

HTH:


Feb 10: fam, fam, oil, prop, DTPA, guardian, corp, corp, Secured transactions, Commercial papers, wills, wills
July 10: k/UCC2, secured transactions, family law, fam, corp, corp, will, will, trust,dtpa, prop, oil
Feb 11: wills, wills, prop, oil/prop, corp, fam, fam, secured transactions, commercial papers, trust, dtpa
July 11: wills, wills, comm paper, security interests, trust,dtpa, fam, fam, prop, oil, corp, corp
Feb 12: wills, wills, corp, corp, prop, prop, dtpa, guardian, n/a,n/a, fam, fam
July 12: corp, corp, na, na, com papers, secured transactions, fam, fam, prop,prop, will, will
Feb 13: oil, prop, ucc3/9, ucc2, will, will, corp, corp, fam, fam, dtpa, guardian
J 13: wills, wills, ucc3, ucc9, prop (ll/t), oil, guardian, dtpa (insur), fam, fam, corp, corp
F14: fam, fam, ucc9, ucc3, corp, corp, wills, wills, prop, oil, trust, dtpa (insu)

Real MVP right here.

P.s. I sent PM yesterday

[0lol]

So how is everyone studying for property essays?

seems like it could cover just about anything under the sun. relying mostly on MBE prop knowledge?

P.s. I sent PM yesterday

word, ill email it to evreryone who pmd before i crash tonight

[umstah]

So how is everyone studying for property essays?

seems like it could cover just about anything under the sun. relying mostly on MBE prop knowledge?

P.s. I sent PM yesterday

word, ill email it to evreryone who pmd before i crash tonight

i did one question each of mortage, homestead, and landlord tenant. did ok, but there was definitely a lot of texas rp stuff i wasn't sure about. i don't exactly know what the level of expertise or accuracy is supposed to be on Texas essays. is a "good faith effort" where you show you know some rules and studied the subject enough to get a decent grade on the essay portion?

[BigZuck]

So how is everyone studying for property essays?

seems like it could cover just about anything under the sun. relying mostly on MBE prop knowledge?

P.s. I sent PM yesterday

word, ill email it to evreryone who pmd before i crash tonight

Oh wait what exactly are we PMing to get?

[AllDangle]

So how is everyone studying for property essays?

seems like it could cover just about anything under the sun. relying mostly on MBE prop knowledge?

P.s. I sent PM yesterday

word, ill email it to evreryone who pmd before i crash tonight

i did one question each of mortage, homestead, and landlord tenant. did ok, but there was definitely a lot of texas rp stuff i wasn't sure about. i don't exactly know what the level of expertise or accuracy is supposed to be on Texas essays. is a "good faith effort" where you show you know some rules and studied the subject enough to get a decent grade on the essay portion?

Are you doing BarBri? If so, would you mind telling me which Real Property essay numbers you did so that I can just go to them as opposed to having to consult the questions to see what they're testing?

[0lol]

Oh wait what exactly are we PMing to get?

basically a question and answer bank from the last 5.5 yrs of civ pro p&e for convenience

the released materials on the ble site are awesome but their format is awful AF since they keep all Q&As in a million separate docs & arent easily copy & pasteable

[JS281]

So how is everyone studying for property essays?

seems like it could cover just about anything under the sun. relying mostly on MBE prop knowledge?

P.s. I sent PM yesterday

word, ill email it to evreryone who pmd before i crash tonight

I'm relying on a mixture of MBE prop knowledge, prior Bar essays, and whatever Themis throws at me. Do I know them super well? Nah, but I can get enough points on them. I'm just hoping there's not another "mechanic's lien" type of question that's out of left field.

Actually, I'm generally hoping there aren't ANY procedural essay questions. Those are hit or miss.

[fly_lawy3r]

HTH:


Feb 10: fam, fam, oil, prop, DTPA, guardian, corp, corp, Secured transactions, Commercial papers, wills, wills
July 10: k/UCC2, secured transactions, family law, fam, corp, corp, will, will, trust,dtpa, prop, oil
Feb 11: wills, wills, prop, oil/prop, corp, fam, fam, secured transactions, commercial papers, trust, dtpa
July 11: wills, wills, comm paper, security interests, trust,dtpa, fam, fam, prop, oil, corp, corp
Feb 12: wills, wills, corp, corp, prop, prop, dtpa, guardian, n/a,n/a, fam, fam
July 12: corp, corp, na, na, com papers, secured transactions, fam, fam, prop,prop, will, will
Feb 13: oil, prop, ucc3/9, ucc2, will, will, corp, corp, fam, fam, dtpa, guardian
J 13: wills, wills, ucc3, ucc9, prop (ll/t), oil, guardian, dtpa (insur), fam, fam, corp, corp
F14: fam, fam, ucc9, ucc3, corp, corp, wills, wills, prop, oil, trust, dtpa (insu)

Happy to add to this:

J14: Wills, Wills, Corp, Corp, Trust, DTPA (pure), Oil, Prop, Fam, Fam, UCC 9, UCC 2
F15: Fam, Fam, Oil, Prop, UCC 2, UCC 3, Corp, Corp, Wills, Wills, Guardianship, DTPA (+ DCPA)
J15: Wills, Wills, Trust, DTPA (pure), Fam, Fam, Corp, Corp, Prop, Oil, UCC 3, UCC 9
F16: Wills, Wills, Fam, Fam, Prop, Oil, UCC 3, UCC 9, Trust, DTPA (insurance), Corp, Corp

[umstah]

i'm not exactly sure what the required mastery of the essay subjects is to do decently - ill have finished learning and covering all the essay subjects by the end of this week, and have done a couple of essays each. as long as we make a good faith attempt and get some of the issues with analysis, is that enough to get an overall like ~16/17 out of 25? my MBE scores have been pretty good, so im hoping as like as i can put some stuff down for the essays i can get like 27/40%. any ideas or knowledge from former years?

[fly_lawy3r]

pretty sure u get like 10 free points on a 1 to 25 scale

Is this right? Because if it is, that means just by attempting to answer the essay we're getting 10 free points per essay * 12 essays * 2 = 240 freebie points toward the 675...

[BigZuck]

pretty sure u get like 10 free points on a 1 to 25 scale

Is this right? Because if it is, that means just by attempting to answer the essay we're getting 10 free points per essay * 12 essays * 2 = 240 freebie points toward the 675...

Is it out of 1000?

If it is, essays are worth 40%, which would be 400 points

400 divided by 25= 16. So it would be 16 free points out of 1000 total

[0lol]

400...


*.40 (cause u get 10/25 for the worst answer possible) = 160 free

[0lol]

i mean, if thats even how they do it. idk. there might be some extra equating bs we are missing or somthing

not sure why they have to make scoring opaque af

[BVest]

pretty sure u get like 10 free points on a 1 to 25 scale

Is this right? Because if it is, that means just by attempting to answer the essay we're getting 10 free points per essay * 12 essays * 2 = 240 freebie points toward the 675...

Is it out of 1000?

If it is, essays are worth 40%, which would be 400 points

400 divided by 25= 16. So it would be 16 free points out of 1000 total

The 1-25 grading is for essay raw score only. http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 4#p9450484

[BigZuck]

pretty sure u get like 10 free points on a 1 to 25 scale

Is this right? Because if it is, that means just by attempting to answer the essay we're getting 10 free points per essay * 12 essays * 2 = 240 freebie points toward the 675...

Is it out of 1000?

If it is, essays are worth 40%, which would be 400 points

400 divided by 25= 16. So it would be 16 free points out of 1000 total

The 1-25 grading is for essay raw score only. http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 4#p9450484

Law students: "How math?"

[fly_lawy3r]

pretty sure u get like 10 free points on a 1 to 25 scale

Is this right? Because if it is, that means just by attempting to answer the essay we're getting 10 free points per essay * 12 essays * 2 = 240 freebie points toward the 675...

Is it out of 1000?

If it is, essays are worth 40%, which would be 400 points

400 divided by 25= 16. So it would be 16 free points out of 1000 total

The 1-25 grading is for essay raw score only. http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 4#p9450484

Law students: "How math?"

Lol. I chalk it up to both sucking at math and not understanding Texas's esoteric scoring system. But BVest's earlier post makes sense.

[umstah]

for those taking barbri, i just finished covering trusts today. supposed to be doing wills 1 and wills 2 over tuesday and wednesday. i did *not* like stanley johanson's trusts lecture. at all. it just seemed like endless examples from past exams. are the wills lectures better? are there any alternative sources that are more efficient or should i just hope for the best?

[KK_2016]

Oh wait what exactly are we PMing to get?

basically a question and answer bank from the last 5.5 yrs of civ pro p&e for convenience

the released materials on the ble site are awesome but their format is awful AF since they keep all Q&As in a million separate docs & arent easily copy & pasteable

Do you think the best way to study for Crim P&E is to go back 4-5 years studying past exams questions and answers, but really focusing on the most recent years (i.e., 2014, 2015 and esp. what was tested this past Feb.)? I've noticed a lot of similarities in the questions that are asked within the same year when comparing Feb. and July tests for Civ Pro P&E, so wanted to see if you had any thoughts or ideas about the Criminal side. I am definitely taking a ride on the struggle bus with trying to study the right things...it's all so overwhelming! Just about every UCC essay causes a slight panic attack. #july29 #bestdayever

[sydneybristow11]

I think 2 years ago (possibly 3) they hired a new board examiner/ test designer (I don't know the right title for the person) for the Crim P&E. So Barbri says that there will probably be new trends, but they aren't sure what they are yet. The old examiner loved grand jury / indictments and was repetitive on that, so I'm going to stick with that as my plan of attack. I don't know if that extends to Civ P&E

[umstah]

it would be easier if there were were some bank of like 50 very common questions for both the civ/crim p&e portions instead of having to aggregate in a halfhazard manner trying to make one.

[KK_2016]

Thanks! That's very helpful to know about the new test designer and past focus on Grand Juries and indictments - there is just SO much to study when it comes to Criminal and Civil P&E, it's so hard to narrow it down! A testing bank would be a special treat.

[NolanRyan]

Freaking out about the pass rate. Someone calm me the hell down