MBE - how'd you feel? Forum

[941law]

Is the scale the same for every state? Or do states take the raws of their applicants and scale them then?

I think the scale is national and then your state can modify it? Or your state recalculates your total score? I believe Florida waits to get your MBE score before finalizing your overall score.

[robinhoodOO]

Is the scale the same for every state? Or do states take the raws of their applicants and scale them then?

Varies

[EAsports]

Could it be the case that NCBE considers more than one answer correct on any given question? There were some CLOSE calls.

[Good Guy Gaud]

I wonder how many pages this thread will get to


Today's exam was just not fun

[Veridian40]

Could it be the case that NCBE considers more than one answer correct on any given question? There were some CLOSE calls.

Overall, I think the Kaplan questions really did a better job teaching me how to recognize Kaplan patterns than how to spot the right answer on the actual exam, but one thing I did takeaway from Kaplan is that this is definitely true. A couple of their practice questions had two answers with the reasoning being "sometimes MBE questions have more than one answer"

[LAW813FL]

Could it be the case that NCBE considers more than one answer correct on any given question? There were some CLOSE calls.

Overall, I think the Kaplan questions really did a better job teaching me how to recognize Kaplan patterns than how to spot the right answer on the actual exam, but one thing j did takeaway from Kaplan is that this is definitely true. A couple of their practice questions had two answers with the reasoning being "sometimes MBE questions have more than one answer"

First, ya adaptibar has stated that some questions got 2 answers scored correctly on past exams. So it can happen. Second, I think Kaplan did a good job of helping us pick the "righter" answer, but still the formatting and difficulty were different. Who knows tho I could have gotten 75% or 50% today I wouldn't be surprised of either.

[Veridian40]

Could it be the case that NCBE considers more than one answer correct on any given question? There were some CLOSE calls.

Overall, I think the Kaplan questions really did a better job teaching me how to recognize Kaplan patterns than how to spot the right answer on the actual exam, but one thing j did takeaway from Kaplan is that this is definitely true. A couple of their practice questions had two answers with the reasoning being "sometimes MBE questions have more than one answer"

First, ya adaptibar has stated that some questions got 2 answers scored correctly on past exams. So it can happen. Second, I think Kaplan did a good job of helping us pick the "righter" answer, but still the formatting and difficulty were different. Who knows tho I could have gotten 75% or 50% today I wouldn't be surprised of either.

Yep, same here. By the end of the Kaplan QBank I was hitting 70+% pretty consistently, but I honestly can't say how I did today. Some of those questions were downright infuriating today.

[Andrews989]

The MBE (and really the New York Essay day) were the kind of difficult that I could have had my entire 30 pound Barbri book set in front of me and unlimited time and still would not have done much better. I felt there were a ton of questions that either 1) The review classes hadn't' covered; 2) I knew the basic rules relating to the question, but it was a toss up which rule/exception applied; 3) I knew which rule/exception to apply, but no answers or multiple answer choices seemed to be correct.

The real estate broker questions were my least favorite. Were those considered property or contract questions? Also two JMOV questions tested the same issue twice.

[Veridian40]

The MBE (and really the New York Essay day) were the kind of difficult that I could have had my entire 30 pound Barbri book set in front of me and unlimited time and still would not have done much better. I felt there were a ton of questions that either 1) The review classes hadn't' covered; 2) I knew the basic rules relating to the question, but it was a toss up which rule/exception applied; 3) I knew which rule/exception to apply, but no answers or multiple answer choices seemed to be correct.

The real estate broker questions were my least favorite. Were those considered property or contract questions? Also two JMOV questions tested the same issue twice.

One of those was a damn agency question...that had to be experimental.

[Lobolaw1984]

All I know is that I have never, in three years of law school and months of bar prep, heard the phrase "earnest money" before today...

[LAW813FL]

Ya I feel some I recall were clearly experimental just in the issues they tested. IE: different subjects

[kyle010723]

I didn't realize conflict of law and wills were MBE subjects. Maybe they are adding that in the future..

[LockBox]

Motor boaters, anyone? Anyone else crack up when they saw this.

[Veridian40]

Ya I feel some I recall were clearly experimental just in the issues they tested. IE: different subjects

For sure - one of those real estate ones was outright an agency question unless I was way, way off and more than one of the others delved dangerously close to to secured transactions, wills, and conflicts. Lord I hope I lucked out and passed this thing because the last thing I want to do is take it again in the future. Even If it's not getting "harder," it's definitely expanding in scope.

[somuchbooty]

Motor boaters, anyone? Anyone else crack up when they saw this.

lol i underlined it and wrote lol and then realized nobody was going to look at it so why did i do that

YOU OLE SAILOR YOU

I do feel like that was the only question written by someone under 30 years old.

[Andrews989]

I didn't realize conflict of law and wills were MBE subjects. Maybe they are adding that in the future..

Erie is a Civ Pro topic and future interests is a property topic

[trustmouse83]

I'm going to be totally honest here.
I failed NY in July 2010, July 2011, Feb 2013, and July 2013.
I had never broken 122 in the MBE in all 4 attempts.
Back in Feb I started doing the PMBR red book, finished all of those (1500, maybe more) in about 8 weeks.
Then moved onto Adaptibar. Completed 2200 questions on that, did all 4 practice tests, and a couple of 50 q custom exams.
I neglected Civ Pro severely, only reading an outline twice and giving up on Adaptibars q's after about 50.
My approach today was to highlight them as I went along, and return to them at the end, guessing like a champ.

I have to say, i've taken the MBE 5 times now, and after my preparation, I really feel like I did very well today.
I saw many of the same fact patterns with Adaptibar as I saw today, and many of the same pitfalls trying to catch me out.
I saw things in these questions that I had never seen before when taking the exam previously.
For the most part, I was throwing out answers to most questions before I even read the fact patterns. I think this all came with experience.

Adaptibar did the business for me, there is no doubt in my mind.
I missed passing NY with 641 when I needed a 665 in July 2013, and today I felt like I knew 10 times more than I did back then.
Anyone else who did a significent number of adaptibars questions seems to agree with me.

I am in the minority here, and it's probably not what people want to hear. But that's my honest experience.

[kyle010723]

I didn't realize conflict of law and wills were MBE subjects. Maybe they are adding that in the future..

Erie is a Civ Pro topic and future interests is a property topic

I've sure never learned the anti-lapse statute in my property class.

[Good Guy Gaud]

Some of the questions had the exact fact patterns of other NCBE released questions it was weird

[somuchbooty]

I should have taken more adaptibar questions I guess. I don't remember seeing many like that in the 800 I took, but I guess the adaptibar questions were better than Themis. Themis questions seemed pretty fucking useless.

[trustmouse83]

Some of the questions had the exact fact patterns of other NCBE released questions it was weird

Yeah, this is what i'm trying to say.

[Lobolaw1984]

I'm going to be totally honest here.
I failed NY in July 2010, July 2011, Feb 2013, and July 2013.
I had never broken 122 in the MBE in all 4 attempts.
Back in Feb I started doing the PMBR red book, finished all of those (1500, maybe more) in about 8 weeks.
Then moved onto Adaptibar. Completed 2200 questions on that, did all 4 practice tests, and a couple of 50 q custom exams.
I neglected Civ Pro severely, only reading an outline twice and giving up on Adaptibars q's after about 50.
My approach today was to highlight them as I went along, and return to them at the end, guessing like a champ.

I have to say, i've taken the MBE 5 times now, and after my preparation, I really feel like I did very well today.
I saw many of the same fact patterns with Adaptibar as I saw today, and many of the same pitfalls trying to catch me out.
I saw things in these questions that I had never seen before when taking the exam previously.
For the most part, I was throwing out answers to most questions before I even read the fact patterns. I think this all came with experience.

Adaptibar did the business for me, there is no doubt in my mind.
I missed passing NY with 641 when I needed a 665 in July 2013, and today I felt like I knew 10 times more than I did back then.
Anyone else who did a significent number of adaptibars questions seems to agree with me.

I am in the minority here, and it's probably not what people want to hear. But that's my honest experience.

That's brutal man. how do you stop from getting discouraged? I only ask because after today's clusterf*ck I may be a repeater myself.

[Andrews989]

I'm pretty sure I'm now like 0/6 on trade fixtures question even after learning the rules

[Outis Onoma]

I can't imagine having to repeat this thing. That would suck balls.

[what to do]

The MBE was a truly horrifying experience. New York essays were also significantly harder than what I've seen in past exams. What in the lord's name was Barbri teaching us?