Texas Bar Exam July 2014 Forum

[Burgstaller04]

I just felt like the MBE also tested a surprising amount of stuff that BarBri either completely didn't cover or, if BarBri covered the same general topic, didn't cover right on point. So overall I'm not feeling so great about it.

Same is true for Themis

[ebo]

Also, let's put to bed the notion that BarBri MBEs are harder than the real thing. Different, maybe, but I thought the MBE questions today were just as difficult as BarBri's.

It's a weird thing though. On the topics that BarBri covered, I actually felt like the MBE questions were in fact easier overall. I just felt like the MBE also tested a surprising amount of stuff that BarBri either completely didn't cover or, if BarBri covered the same general topic, didn't cover right on point. So overall I'm not feeling so great about it.

yeah, maybe that was it. I'm still kind of in shock and not really sure what just happened. There were a lot of things I just wasn't comfortable/familiar with even after doing 2000 MBE questions or whatever

[txadv11]

Bad time to ask.... But how does the curve work?
I know the raw vs scaled on mbe. But what's the deal on p/e, mpt, essays?? It can't be a 1:1 right?

My honest assessment says 60-65% mpt, 75-85% pe, and something like 110-130 raw mbe. It's pretty close for the essays at this point.

[bankofmouse]

Yeah, i don't remember the Fed Fair Housing Act being covered in bar review.

[jr8966]

PE questions are 5 points each. They are totaled then divided by two. The MPT is scaled heavily. Im really going to need those day 1 points after the MBE.

[aquasalad]

Judicial liens ...

[ebo]

Judicial liens ...

Must have been 20 questions

[arkhamhorror]

Right, so, a couple points: This time last year I walked out of the MBE and felt like dogshit. Thought I failed everything, didn't even want to show up for the next day, completely shell-shocked, etc. Ended up passing with a 143 raw.

Point is, there is no way to tell and you just have to get beyond it for tomorrow.

Choosing to ignore my own advice for a moment, I thought today was very difficult. The fact that I was not completely prepared likely had a hand in it, but there was some shit in there that I don't even remember seeing from the LAST July bar. I circled at least 70 questions where I was completely stumped between two or three answers, and who knows how many of the other 130 I got right. Granted, ten are experimental and they toss some here and there if too many people get them wrong, but I was really hoping on that going better than it did.

Essays tomorrow are going to suck.

[Grapes]

This MBE was definitely harder than in February '14.

i felt like i was guessing on a majority of them. feeling like a huge numbskull right now

[TX129392]

numbskull

Heh.

[jr8966]

I'm dreading tomorrow's ass whupping. I was really hoping that I would feel more optimistic today. F'n bar companies make way too money!

[OklahomasOK]

Also, let's put to bed the notion that BarBri MBEs are harder than the real thing. Different, maybe, but I thought the MBE questions today were just as difficult as BarBri's.

It's a weird thing though. On the topics that BarBri covered, I actually felt like the MBE questions were in fact easier overall. I just felt like the MBE also tested a surprising amount of stuff that BarBri either completely didn't cover or, if BarBri covered the same general topic, didn't cover right on point. So overall I'm not feeling so great about it.

It was brutal. I got the distinct impression the MBE was testing subjects the Barbri didn't cover as in depth. I had lots of trouble with some property questions. A couple I just had no clue what was going on. Some other questions used terms I was not familiar with.

Hoping I treaded water today. I know I didn't do myself any favors but I feel like I did Average to Average + on MPT & P&E and hopefully I'll make it though tomorrow as well.

It's a little reassuring that everyone thinks it was difficult. We're all in the same boat. Just gotta pass.

[OklahomasOK]

Right, so, a couple points: This time last year I walked out of the MBE and felt like dogshit. Thought I failed everything, didn't even want to show up for the next day, completely shell-shocked, etc. Ended up passing with a 143 raw.

Point is, there is no way to tell and you just have to get beyond it for tomorrow.

Choosing to ignore my own advice for a moment, I thought today was very difficult. The fact that I was not completely prepared likely had a hand in it, but there was some shit in there that I don't even remember seeing from the LAST July bar. I circled at least 70 questions where I was completely stumped between two or three answers, and who knows how many of the other 130 I got right. Granted, ten are experimental and they toss some here and there if too many people get them wrong, but I was really hoping on that going better than it did.

Essays tomorrow are going to suck.

I was stuck using a lot of "common sense" to choose between a couple answers. There's one question on the morning administration in particular where I KNEW the right answer but I looked down and it wasn't there. I was forced to go with a red herring because none of the others made any sense what so ever. It was stupid, stupid question.

[TX129392]

Right, so, a couple points: This time last year I walked out of the MBE and felt like dogshit. Thought I failed everything, didn't even want to show up for the next day, completely shell-shocked, etc. Ended up passing with a 143 raw.

Point is, there is no way to tell and you just have to get beyond it for tomorrow.

Choosing to ignore my own advice for a moment, I thought today was very difficult. The fact that I was not completely prepared likely had a hand in it, but there was some shit in there that I don't even remember seeing from the LAST July bar. I circled at least 70 questions where I was completely stumped between two or three answers, and who knows how many of the other 130 I got right. Granted, ten are experimental and they toss some here and there if too many people get them wrong, but I was really hoping on that going better than it did.

Essays tomorrow are going to suck.

I was stuck using a lot of "common sense" to choose between a couple answers. There's one question on the morning administration in particular where I KNEW the right answer but I looked down and it wasn't there. I was forced to go with a red herring because none of the others made any sense what so ever. It was stupid, stupid question.

Do you recall what that one was about, out of curiosity? I remember having one like that too but I don't remember the issue.

[Prime]

Yea, I had a handful during both sessions where I had the answer in my head and...boom. nothin

[jimmythecatdied6]

Today was rough. The Texas bar exam is not being as gentle as I'd hoped.

Here's to hoping that I can intelligently answer six questions tomorrow... Please...

[OklahomasOK]

Right, so, a couple points: This time last year I walked out of the MBE and felt like dogshit. Thought I failed everything, didn't even want to show up for the next day, completely shell-shocked, etc. Ended up passing with a 143 raw.

Point is, there is no way to tell and you just have to get beyond it for tomorrow.

Choosing to ignore my own advice for a moment, I thought today was very difficult. The fact that I was not completely prepared likely had a hand in it, but there was some shit in there that I don't even remember seeing from the LAST July bar. I circled at least 70 questions where I was completely stumped between two or three answers, and who knows how many of the other 130 I got right. Granted, ten are experimental and they toss some here and there if too many people get them wrong, but I was really hoping on that going better than it did.

Essays tomorrow are going to suck.

I was stuck using a lot of "common sense" to choose between a couple answers. There's one question on the morning administration in particular where I KNEW the right answer but I looked down and it wasn't there. I was forced to go with a red herring because none of the others made any sense what so ever. It was stupid, stupid question.

Do you recall what that one was about, out of curiosity? I remember having one like that too but I don't remember the issue.

I'm not sure I can really discuss the details of it but it was in the criminal law context. None of the answers remotely made any sense. One of the answers was completely made up, I think.

[TX129392]

Right, so, a couple points: This time last year I walked out of the MBE and felt like dogshit. Thought I failed everything, didn't even want to show up for the next day, completely shell-shocked, etc. Ended up passing with a 143 raw.

Point is, there is no way to tell and you just have to get beyond it for tomorrow.

Choosing to ignore my own advice for a moment, I thought today was very difficult. The fact that I was not completely prepared likely had a hand in it, but there was some shit in there that I don't even remember seeing from the LAST July bar. I circled at least 70 questions where I was completely stumped between two or three answers, and who knows how many of the other 130 I got right. Granted, ten are experimental and they toss some here and there if too many people get them wrong, but I was really hoping on that going better than it did.

Essays tomorrow are going to suck.

I was stuck using a lot of "common sense" to choose between a couple answers. There's one question on the morning administration in particular where I KNEW the right answer but I looked down and it wasn't there. I was forced to go with a red herring because none of the others made any sense what so ever. It was stupid, stupid question.

Do you recall what that one was about, out of curiosity? I remember having one like that too but I don't remember the issue.

I'm not sure I can really discuss the details of it but it was in the criminal law context. None of the answers remotely made any sense. One of the answers was completely made up, I think.

Cool. That sounds like the one I'm thinking of.

On to the essays...

[brose]

Also, let's put to bed the notion that BarBri MBEs are harder than the real thing. Different, maybe, but I thought the MBE questions today were just as difficult as BarBri's.

It's a weird thing though. On the topics that BarBri covered, I actually felt like the MBE questions were in fact easier overall. I just felt like the MBE also tested a surprising amount of stuff that BarBri either completely didn't cover or, if BarBri covered the same general topic, didn't cover right on point. So overall I'm not feeling so great about it.

This is exactly how I felt. During one of my halves (the shorter-length one) I was like damn this is a straightforward fact pattern. It's too bad I don't know the rule.

I also felt like on some of the few that I did know, they were the exceptions to Barbri's statements that "[X] answer is NEVER right!"

[TX129392]

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[brose]

Definitely interested in seeing how big this curve is. Gonna need all the help I can get. I can't do that again.

[aquasalad]

Convenience store, did not know the definition of the words in the answers

[arkhamhorror]

There was definitely one set up where I was like "Aha! Barbri said that this is never the answer and they're gift wrapping it!" and the clause I was thinking of wasn't even an option.

In other news, it's after 9 p.m. and it's beginning to sink in that I'm really going to have to wing it on at least three essays tomorrow. Not a great feeling, but I made it this far using my BS powers so hopefully I can squeeze out one more day...

[Neve]

Morning MBE for me - lots of difficult questions, some stuff I've never seen before. I tried my best, but felt it was more difficult than the Barbri questions. My feeling is that I may have gotten most of them wrong. It was helpful that I went through the CMR the night before and I think it led me to figure some answers out (e.g. equitable servitude --> injunction; covenant --> money damages). But basically, it was hell.

Afternoon MBE - much, much better. On the same level or easier than Barbri questions.

They have different forms so everyone's question sets were probably a little bit different. My sets felt very "top heavy".

[Neve]

Judicial liens ...

Accelerating clause....