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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by Stringer6 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:33 pm

northwood wrote:when you say make up a rule. what exactly do you mean? like the test used by a court, or what something is ( like the federal arbitration act)

or how to calculate damages for a contract breach
My Torts lecturer said he didn't know the no-fault liability scheme for NY on the exam…so he made one up and applied it to the facts. Said you can get points that way. I've actually seen it work on a few of my graded essays -- points awarded for wrong conclusions but where I "followed thru on my [WRONG] analysis."

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by Helpful » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:44 pm

Stringer6 wrote:
northwood wrote:when you say make up a rule. what exactly do you mean? like the test used by a court, or what something is ( like the federal arbitration act)

or how to calculate damages for a contract breach
My Torts lecturer said he didn't know the no-fault liability scheme for NY on the exam…so he made one up and applied it to the facts. Said you can get points that way. I've actually seen it work on a few of my graded essays -- points awarded for wrong conclusions but where I "followed thru on my [WRONG] analysis."
I wonder about how significantly this actually applies -- e.g., could you do it for the majority of an essay and still get a 5?

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by Stringer6 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:45 pm

Helpful wrote:
Stringer6 wrote:
northwood wrote:when you say make up a rule. what exactly do you mean? like the test used by a court, or what something is ( like the federal arbitration act)

or how to calculate damages for a contract breach
My Torts lecturer said he didn't know the no-fault liability scheme for NY on the exam…so he made one up and applied it to the facts. Said you can get points that way. I've actually seen it work on a few of my graded essays -- points awarded for wrong conclusions but where I "followed thru on my [WRONG] analysis."
I wonder about how significantly this actually applies -- e.g., could you do it for the majority of an essay and still get a 5?
probably not

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by jd20132013 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:31 pm

Stringer6 wrote:
northwood wrote:when you say make up a rule. what exactly do you mean? like the test used by a court, or what something is ( like the federal arbitration act)

or how to calculate damages for a contract breach
My Torts lecturer said he didn't know the no-fault liability scheme for NY on the exam…so he made one up and applied it to the facts. Said you can get points that way. I've actually seen it work on a few of my graded essays -- points awarded for wrong conclusions but where I "followed thru on my [WRONG] analysis."

a system where you have to give people points for making up law because they test you in a way totally unhinged from what real legal practice is like probably should be reformed

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by northwood » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:25 pm

any idea when the admission tickets come out?

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Post by bendurnotes4me » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:09 pm

Has anyone looked into/heard anything about whether there are sufficient plug outlets at the Albany locations? My computer won't last more than about 2.5 hours so I am very worried about this.

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Post by shock259 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:51 pm

bendurnotes4me wrote:Has anyone looked into/heard anything about whether there are sufficient plug outlets at the Albany locations? My computer won't last more than about 2.5 hours so I am very worried about this.
Oh god. Didn't think about that. My battery lasts like 2 hours max.

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Post by MissLucky » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:56 pm

anyone know about the test site conditions in Albany? cold? hot? is it a massive room with hundreds of students in it or are we placed in smaller rooms? thanks

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Post by PennBull » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:15 pm

shock259 wrote:
bendurnotes4me wrote:Has anyone looked into/heard anything about whether there are sufficient plug outlets at the Albany locations? My computer won't last more than about 2.5 hours so I am very worried about this.
Oh god. Didn't think about that. My battery lasts like 2 hours max.
No reason the test centers didn't think about that already

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by northwood » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:48 pm

PennBull wrote:
shock259 wrote:
bendurnotes4me wrote:Has anyone looked into/heard anything about whether there are sufficient plug outlets at the Albany locations? My computer won't last more than about 2.5 hours so I am very worried about this.
Oh god. Didn't think about that. My battery lasts like 2 hours max.
No reason the test centers didn't think about that already
I'm preparing myself to have to deal with a dying battery and will be pleasantly surprised if there are enough outlets... its kinda like going to the DMV- where you expect to spend the entire day waiting in line, and when you find out you only have to spend an hour and a half- you are happy and walk out happy

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by bendurnotes4me » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:14 pm

PennBull wrote:
shock259 wrote:
bendurnotes4me wrote:Has anyone looked into/heard anything about whether there are sufficient plug outlets at the Albany locations? My computer won't last more than about 2.5 hours so I am very worried about this.
Oh god. Didn't think about that. My battery lasts like 2 hours max.
No reason the test centers didn't think about that already
Its definitely happened recently. I read on a post here that in CA last year there were about 500 test takers at one location who had to hand write because there weren't power outlets and I've heard word of mouth that its also a problem at Javits. I haven't heard anything about Albany, though, so I wanted to see if anyone had any information on this.

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by Lawst » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:13 pm

So, the clearly important bar question. Are the food options around the Times Union Center site in Albany so dire that it's worth pre-ordering a $10 sammich through Aramark with that form we got by email? I'm 99% certain they will be barely edible and there will be a long line anyway to pick up your food.

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Post by bendurnotes4me » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:50 pm

Lawst wrote:So, the clearly important bar question. Are the food options around the Times Union Center site in Albany so dire that it's worth pre-ordering a $10 sammich through Aramark with that form we got by email? I'm 99% certain they will be barely edible and there will be a long line anyway to pick up your food.
We're allowed to bring our own food right?

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Post by AJS30 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:14 pm

bendurnotes4me wrote:
Lawst wrote:So, the clearly important bar question. Are the food options around the Times Union Center site in Albany so dire that it's worth pre-ordering a $10 sammich through Aramark with that form we got by email? I'm 99% certain they will be barely edible and there will be a long line anyway to pick up your food.
We're allowed to bring our own food right?
I'm wondering this as well. I think when we had our Barbri simulated test at the javits center, I think the guy said you can bring your lunch, it just needs to be in saran wrap or something. If thats the case, I just plan on bringing a cheese sandwich or something and a few snacks. But I'd like to know the definite answer because if I can't bring in the sandwich, I'm going to be screwed.

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Post by JenDarby » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:42 pm

AJS30 wrote:
bendurnotes4me wrote:
Lawst wrote:So, the clearly important bar question. Are the food options around the Times Union Center site in Albany so dire that it's worth pre-ordering a $10 sammich through Aramark with that form we got by email? I'm 99% certain they will be barely edible and there will be a long line anyway to pick up your food.
We're allowed to bring our own food right?
I'm wondering this as well. I think when we had our Barbri simulated test at the javits center, I think the guy said you can bring your lunch, it just needs to be in saran wrap or something. If thats the case, I just plan on bringing a cheese sandwich or something and a few snacks. But I'd like to know the definite answer because if I can't bring in the sandwich, I'm going to be screwed.
I am just buying the overpriced lunch that they deliver to Javitz.

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Post by VulcanVulcanVulcan » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:34 pm

JenDarby wrote:
AJS30 wrote:
bendurnotes4me wrote:
Lawst wrote:So, the clearly important bar question. Are the food options around the Times Union Center site in Albany so dire that it's worth pre-ordering a $10 sammich through Aramark with that form we got by email? I'm 99% certain they will be barely edible and there will be a long line anyway to pick up your food.
We're allowed to bring our own food right?
I'm wondering this as well. I think when we had our Barbri simulated test at the javits center, I think the guy said you can bring your lunch, it just needs to be in saran wrap or something. If thats the case, I just plan on bringing a cheese sandwich or something and a few snacks. But I'd like to know the definite answer because if I can't bring in the sandwich, I'm going to be screwed.
I am just buying the overpriced lunch that they deliver to Javitz.
Similar question for Buffalo takers--am I effed if I don't get the boxed lunch? How hard will it be to get a seat at a random restaurant near the testing center?

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by PennBull » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:42 am

VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:Similar question for Buffalo takers--am I effed if I don't get the boxed lunch? How hard will it be to get a seat at a random restaurant near the testing center?
There's plenty of carts and stuff in the area but I just said fuck it, give me the sandwich

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by shock259 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:55 am

Where are these food options? I haven't seen anything on it. Taking in Albany.

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Post by peanut123 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:42 am

shock259 wrote:Where are these food options? I haven't seen anything on it. Taking in Albany.
http://www.albany.org/nysbarexam/

Looks like it depends on which site you're taking it. Boxed lunch available at one, but not the other.
PennBull wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:Similar question for Buffalo takers--am I effed if I don't get the boxed lunch? How hard will it be to get a seat at a random restaurant near the testing center?
There's plenty of carts and stuff in the area but I just said fuck it, give me the sandwich
Same here. It's expensive and I'm not expecting much in terms of quality, but the convenience of not having to think about it was worth it to me.

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Post by shock259 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:55 am

Thanks! At Empire State, which doesn't have a boxed lunch option but looks like it has a food court (Subway, ABP, etc).

I might just bring my own food and put it in the bag that I check. I wonder if the bag check lines during lunch will be nuts.

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Post by themis513 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:54 pm

Any one know if there are enough outlets in the buffalo convention centre. I can believe that they would have laptop writing as an option and then not provide you with an outlet!!!

Also how long does it take to get out for lunch? And how long does it take to come back in?

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Post by kapital98 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:44 pm

themis513 wrote:Any one know if there are enough outlets in the buffalo convention centre. I can believe that they would have laptop writing as an option and then not provide you with an outlet!!!

Also how long does it take to get out for lunch? And how long does it take to come back in?
I'm wondering the same things.

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by northwood » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:45 pm

themis513 wrote:Any one know if there are enough outlets in the buffalo convention centre. I can believe that they would have laptop writing as an option and then not provide you with an outlet!!!

Also how long does it take to get out for lunch? And how long does it take to come back in?

they say you can bring a power strip, so bring one with you just to be safe

as for lunch we get an hour and a half I believe

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Post by 5ky » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:51 pm

I went back to my hotel room and ate lunch there. I was probably about a 10 min walk away. It was pretty nice to just relax, but you have to be fairly close to do that. It was nice not to have to wait in the bag check or food line. I just left my earplugs in and walked out of the building.

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Re: July 2014 New York Bar Exam

Post by themis513 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:07 pm

northwood wrote:
themis513 wrote:Any one know if there are enough outlets in the buffalo convention centre. I can believe that they would have laptop writing as an option and then not provide you with an outlet!!!

Also how long does it take to get out for lunch? And how long does it take to come back in?

they say you can bring a power strip, so bring one with you just to be safe

as for lunch we get an hour and a half I believe

Where does it say you can bring a power strip? Isnt a power strip just an extension. I would still need an outlet!! Its so weird if they expect us to do that!!

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