Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 Forum

[PhillyLawGirl2015]

Are people planning on attending those events for the simulated exams next week?

Yes. I registered for it. Hopefully I'll make it there

[Easy-E]

Corporations...Do members not physically present for a meeting count towards a quorum?

The outline says:

A director is not required to be physically present at a meeting. A meeting may be conducted through conference call or any other means that allow each director to hear the other directors during the meeting. RMBCA §8.20(b).

But the sample answer for one of the corporations essays seems to say otherwise. I get that the people participating by call need to be able to hear/speak to everyone else, but the sample answer had not addressed that yet. It just counted the physical members (lol) towards the quorum.

[unidentifiable]

Is anyone else experiencing rapid vision changes while studying? I've never studied this much, for this many hours in a row, for this many days/weeks in a row before. So, I'm sure that part of it is exhaustion. But, everything is blurry where it would not have been 2 months ago.
Don't worry, I am running into the optometrist for an exam today. I was just wondering if anyone else is having a similar issue.

I think I mentioned this upthread, but yes. I've always had migraines with aura, but have had increased issues with that while studying.

It's just too much screen time!

My right eyelid has inexplicably swollen as if I got punched in the eye for the past week. Don't know if it's stress or eye strain. At least I don't have to be around people for a while

The corner of my right eye twitches ~4 hours a day total. The top left of my left eyebrow vibrates, tingles, and sort of goes numb. Whyyyy

Once someone told me this could be due to low potassium. Obviously it's stress related but maybe some potassium will help.

i eat one nanner every day. and my girlfriend has introduced banana chips into the diet. probably not the healthiest, but whatevs.

[unidentifiable]

Are people planning on attending those events for the simulated exams next week?

The place for my state is literally right across the street from my apartment.

I dunno if I'm going to go though. I tend to be super fine on time (like 20-30 minutes extra on 50 question sets). I'm wondering if its worth it for me, timewise, to waste an hour or so of the day waiting for it to end.

[Easy-E]

Okay, one more question regarding partnerships.

Outline:

Individual partners need not be named in a suit against the partnership in order to collect a judgment out of partnership assets. However, a judgment against a partnership is not a judgment against its partners. Unless there is also a judgment against the partner, a judgment against a partnership cannot be satisfied from a partner’s assets, only from the partnership’s assets.

Then, from the sample answer for the Partnerships/Agency essay (garden equipment repair):

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A partner is jointly and severally liable for all partnership obligations. Though a limited partner in an LLP is not personally liable for an obligation of an LLP, limited liability partnership status is generally only effective on the date that the statement of qualification is filed with the state and not before. Under these facts, the $500,000 judgment was levied against Garden Partnership before the man and the woman took steps to qualify as an LLP. Therefore, the man and the woman will remain jointly and severally liable for the judgment.

What am I missing? I'm reading the outline as "you need a judgment against the partners before you can collect on a judgment from a partner personally. The sample answer seems to say otherwise.

[blueapple]

I still haven't gotten back my graded essay from Friday. Has anyone else had this much of a delay for an essay they turned in on time? I'm trying to decide if I should email Themis or just wait it out.

[mu13ski]

I still haven't gotten back my graded essay from Friday. Has anyone else had this much of a delay for an essay they turned in on time? I'm trying to decide if I should email Themis or just wait it out.

I'm still waiting too. This is the longest I've had to wait.

[1down1togo]

I still haven't gotten back my graded essay from Friday. Has anyone else had this much of a delay for an essay they turned in on time? I'm trying to decide if I should email Themis or just wait it out.

Never had to wait that long. They say 2 business days. So, if you turned it in on friday... Friday to monday is one business day, monday to tuesday is 2 business days, tuesday to wednesday is 3 business days. I'm not saying theyve lost it or messed up.

Also, I email them all the time. Whats the harm?

[psm11]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

[Vantwins]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

Maybe I'll save my sanity and skip that set!

There is way too much to memorize in secured transactions.

[Fivedham]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

I wouldn't feel bad about Con Law #5. Everyone here agrees that it was a freakishly hard set of problems. All of this stuff is learnable, and we have a month.

[Sheeit]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

Maybe I'll save my sanity and skip that set!

There is way too much to memorize in secured transactions.

Ugh, Secured transactions. I'm studying, but hoping they just decide not to test it.

[NaeDeen]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

Maybe I'll save my sanity and skip that set!

There is way too much to memorize in secured transactions.

Ugh, Secured transactions. I'm studying, but hoping they just decide not to test it.

I AGREE!!!

[NaeDeen]

The secured transactions lecturer is fine, but I still am having trouble staying awake through it! I'm sure last night's stress dreams didn't help. I didn't know about the "events" next week either. I assume the ones for the MD bar are in DC and/or Baltimore, and it would take about 2 hours out of my day to get back and forth to either, so I'm not going to bother.

Secured trans was something else. I put that bad boy on 2.25 & 2.5 and had to slow it down after a while because my brain started to spin & I stopped listening. It was weird. Keep going! YOU CAN DO IT!!!

[unidentifiable]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

Maybe I'll save my sanity and skip that set!

There is way too much to memorize in secured transactions.

Ugh, Secured transactions. I'm studying, but hoping they just decide not to test it.

I AGREE!!!

Seriously, this guy's write up on Secured Transactions is the tits: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 1&t=249162

[bsktbll28082]

Stabbed myself in the head with a pen. It's been a long day.

[ultimolugar]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

I wouldn't feel bad about Con Law #5. Everyone here agrees that it was a freakishly hard set of problems. All of this stuff is learnable, and we have a month.

I've heard it said that con law is supposed to be the easiest MBE topic next to torts. There's no reason for Themis con law questions should be this hard.

[ChocolateTruffle]

For anyone who has done the second wills practice essay, I am trying to understand why

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the residuary bequest to Son abates first and Son receives nothing

? Could someone who understands the rules of abatement please help me to understand this? Would very much be appreciated!!!

[NaeDeen]

For anyone who has done the second wills practice essay, I am trying to understand why

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the residuary bequest to Son abates first and Son receives nothing

? Could someone who understands the rules of abatement please help me to understand this? Would very much be appreciated!!!

It's difficult to ascertain what the question is asking. But I'll give it a shot--

Ademption—property in a specific bequest sold or destroyed prior to your death & is not available (a house, a car, a watch, etc.). Ademption by satisfaction occurs when grantor gives the gift to b/e prior to death

Abatement--money (usually) left to a beneficiary but some or all is not available at time of testator's death. In such a case, the devise will be reduced first in order to satisfy other devises that have precedence over it. Basically, it's the first to go if there isn't enough cash to administration, funeral expenses and other devises that are superior.

[NaeDeen]

Con Law MBE Set 5 just ruined my universe. Might have been the hardest set of PQ thus far for me.

same. also i think a number of other people have had the same experience. no worries; keep on going!

completely wrecked me (talking way more wrong than right). did it right after memorizing the critical pass flash cards too. feel like i am going to fail.

Maybe I'll save my sanity and skip that set!

There is way too much to memorize in secured transactions.

Ugh, Secured transactions. I'm studying, but hoping they just decide not to test it.

I AGREE!!!

Seriously, this guy's write up on Secured Transactions is the tits: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 1&t=249162

Holy crap, that's amazing. I'll complete my outlines on these topics then take a look at them. THANKS!

[NaeDeen]

I am choosing not to study any more material & go listen to music...I just can't. My civ pro outline killed me today--although, not too bad, it's just 9 pages. Managed to truncate Jeffries handout from 44 to 9 pages *patting myself on the back*

Happy studying all!

[Vantwins]

Seriously, this guy's write up on Secured Transactions is the tits: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 1&t=249162

Good stuff, thanks!

"people are assholes and will sell the shit that someone else has a security interest in! If a bank has an interest in your car, it's quite rude to sell your car to Jimmy down the street, but it happens."

[kishy]

This is insane. Put off Milestone #2 until today because I figured it'd give me some time to actually learn the subjects. Scored a 44%....meanwhile on Adaptibar scoring in the 60% range. Getting really frustrated with Themis' roulette-like MBE system. Constantly makes me feel like I'm a mouse on a wheel. Study, bomb a set, panic, repeat.

I'm telling you all! THEMIS QUESTIONS ARE MUCH DIFFICULT.

Please let this be true

The only thing that is making me think they possibly are is that the Milestone questions seem to be real MBE questions used in the same MBE, so the difficulty is gauged to be appropriate with the actual test. Whereas I think the PQ sets are drawn individually, and they vary in difficulty.

So you mean score on the milestone questions is an accurate representation of what you will get on the real thing = themis questions arent harder...

I took and passed the Michigan Bar in February. Now I'm studying for Florida and I think I must be out of my mind to take back-to-back Bars, but whatever. But here's what I can tell you about MBE. My overall Themis M/C percentage was in the high 50s (I did about 2200 m/c). My simulated MBE was 69% for each part. On the actual exam day,I went through the MBE day on autopilot. The questions didn't seem overly hard or overly easy. I figured I had to get about a 65% to pass, and if I was just consistent with how I did on my simulated MBE, I would be fine. Got a 144 on the MBE. I can't tell you if Themis's questions were harder or not, but just keep plugging away. At some point this stuff has to sink in. On another note, I totally bullshitted on 4 of the 15 Michigan essays and did just fine. These Florida practice essays are brutal!

[AlanShore]

This is insane. Put off Milestone #2 until today because I figured it'd give me some time to actually learn the subjects. Scored a 44%....meanwhile on Adaptibar scoring in the 60% range. Getting really frustrated with Themis' roulette-like MBE system. Constantly makes me feel like I'm a mouse on a wheel. Study, bomb a set, panic, repeat.

I'm telling you all! THEMIS QUESTIONS ARE MUCH DIFFICULT.

Please let this be true

The only thing that is making me think they possibly are is that the Milestone questions seem to be real MBE questions used in the same MBE, so the difficulty is gauged to be appropriate with the actual test. Whereas I think the PQ sets are drawn individually, and they vary in difficulty.

So you mean score on the milestone questions is an accurate representation of what you will get on the real thing = themis questions arent harder...

I took and passed the Michigan Bar in February. Now I'm studying for Florida and I think I must be out of my mind to take back-to-back Bars, but whatever. But here's what I can tell you about MBE. My overall Themis M/C percentage was in the high 50s (I did about 2200 m/c). My simulated MBE was 69% for each part. On the actual exam day,I went through the MBE day on autopilot. The questions didn't seem overly hard or overly easy. I figured I had to get about a 65% to pass, and if I was just consistent with how I did on my simulated MBE, I would be fine. Got a 144 on the MBE. I can't tell you if Themis's questions were harder or not, but just keep plugging away. At some point this stuff has to sink in. On another note, I totally bullshitted on 4 of the 15 Michigan essays and did just fine. These Florida practice essays are brutal!

Thanks for the encouragement. Good luck on FL! crush it!

[Msnegativity]

Went from a 70% on Milestone #1 to a 56% on Milestone 2. WTF, man. I got OWNED by con law.