Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam Forum

[MrBriggs360]

How is everyone handling the job search thing and studying for the Bar? I have a couple of interviews in July, but am wondering if I'd just be better off just asking to move them out until AFTER the exam.

Honestly, it's a struggle. I have had four interviews this month because I went kind of insane with the apps and it is really distracting. You have to prepare for the interview well, which keeps you from being able to focus and then after the interview you're all worked up and shit hahah. I stopped applying. After this next interview tomorrow, I'm done. I think I will have a follow-up interview for a clerkship in a couple of weeks but I'm not applying for anything new. On one hand, you really are ahead of the competition because once the bar exam passes, these employers are going to be FLOODED with resumes. But on the other hand, it really isn't worth getting totally and completely distracted while you have to focus.

Just bombed Property Set 4 with a 65%.

That's a passing score, so I wouldn't say you bombed it...

Yeah, unless you've been getting 90s, that's not bombing it. I'm around 70 with Property, so I might have been a little disappointed with 65, but not too upset about it.

This happened yesterday with Evidence for me. Had been consistently around 73, but ended up with 60 yesterday because I just got frustrated and that affected my performance. Think it happens to us all.

Yeah, it's all driving me nuts. I think I'm making progress then on the 4th set I keep dropping. For Contracts and Property both I went from 65% to 70% to 75% and then back to 65% on set 4. It makes me feel like I've learned nothing when I score just as poorly on the fourth set as I did on the first.

I have rarely gotten 75% (usually on the first set of 17 MBE questions), but right now I'm around 55-65% for each one. I'm focusing on spending more time reviewing my materials, praying it gets better and more things start to stick. I just can't remember anything! (I even forgot my atm pin the other day).

I don't know, I think I'm just having trouble accepting the fact that I need to just aim to pass this thing and that it's impossible to know everything. But it gives me anxiety having so much material that I'm unfamiliar with, I can't stand it.

[Nelson]

So how quickly can Themis update con law, family law, wills, and whatever else I could be missing?

Law as of 6 months ago is what's tested. Feb. 2015.

[smalogna]

Hi all,

Wondered whether you all want to share total correct MBE %, might be helpful as a point of comparison?

Mine is 55% (unimpressed)

You can access it by clicking course progress >MBE sets on the left > it's at the very top above the other averages (obviously you all know that)

65% through 765 questions

[smalogna]

Just completed a MPT graded essay and I completely expect my grader to have one comment, "Okay. Good." It is so subjective it's almost pointless to do a graded MPT. Is it just to make sure that we are legally sane and not making outlandish arguments within memoranda?

[always_raining]

Hi all,

Wondered whether you all want to share total correct MBE %, might be helpful as a point of comparison?

Mine is 55% (unimpressed)

You can access it by clicking course progress >MBE sets on the left > it's at the very top above the other averages (obviously you all know that)

70% out of 985 completed. I find the Mixed MBE questions very difficult. My score has been dropping quickly.

[Velours]

Hi all,

Wondered whether you all want to share total correct MBE %, might be helpful as a point of comparison?

Mine is 55% (unimpressed)

You can access it by clicking course progress >MBE sets on the left > it's at the very top above the other averages (obviously you all know that)

65% through 765 questions

I'm at 65% with 833 questions. My percents for each category range from 52% (Civ Pro) to 71% (Contracts). I'm a bit behind so I haven't done milestone 2 yet.

[MrBriggs360]

Anybody in New York have a plan for how they're going to memorize Criminal Law and Evidence distinctions? This could get rough, good thing we have over a month.

[Pleasye]

Grey background and smaller font are back, meeeeh.

Also I'm 67% out of 833 questions.

[MrBriggs360]

I'm at 71%, but I've only done just under 400 questions. Reason for that is I've been trying to get all the lectures done and full outlines read, and doing some of my own outlining in anticipation of attacking most of the practice questions and memorizing elements after that.

[smalogna]

Anybody in New York have a plan for how they're going to memorize Criminal Law and Evidence distinctions? This could get rough, good thing we have over a month.

So you haven't seen the SoLs in the NY civ pro lectures yet?

[MrBriggs360]

Anybody in New York have a plan for how they're going to memorize Criminal Law and Evidence distinctions? This could get rough, good thing we have over a month.

So you haven't seen the SoLs in the NY civ pro lectures yet?

No, but I'm aware of them because we had to memorize them for New York Practice, there were dozens of them.

[somuchbooty]

Is anyone else struggling with the con law questions? I just checked my percentages and they're all in the high 60s and 70s except con law, which is like 50%. Wanted to know if anyone else was sucking on them before i committed to watching all of the videos again or something.

[milesdavisjd]

So while doing my first set of Civ Pro MBE questions, I wondered if my 1L outline would be of any use. Turns out, the damn thing is the most helpful resource I have for answering those MBE questions. Of course, my awesome, informative, 1L Civ Pro professor teaches for Barbri. Womp womp.

[UnamSanctam]

I was at 68% overall last week but the onslaught of Con, Crim Pro, and Evidence have basically made me terrible and I'm down to 62%. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[kjartan]

I was at 68% overall last week but the onslaught of Con, Crim Pro, and Evidence have basically made me terrible and I'm down to 62%. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My scores have also declined and I think it's because I'm basically learning 2-3 subjects at a time. Right now it's ConLaw and CivPro (including CA distinctions). I barely feel comfortable with a subject by the time Themis pushes another one on my plate.

Also, I have a graded CPT on my directed study schedule today...

[zot1]

So how quickly can Themis update con law, family law, wills, and whatever else I could be missing?

Law as of 6 months ago is what's tested. Feb. 2015.

This might still confuse me, so I hope they just skip the topic altogether.

[zot1]

I'm sitting at 64% out of 901 questions. However, I've gotten over 70s on my last 5 MBEs (including Milestone 2--hoping is an upwards trend!).

[zot1]

In all seriousness though, how am I supposed to study when the Germany-France is about to start?

[MrMustache]

59% at 707, with a couple sets done by randomly picking answers to have them marked as "complete."

So far my worst subject is evidence, with an average of 57%, followed by property at 58%.

[always_raining]

59% at 707, with a couple sets done by randomly picking answers to have them marked as "complete."

So far my worst subject is evidence, with an average of 57%, followed by property at 58%.

I started out really horrible in Evidence, but I think that is one that you can get better at pretty quickly. I started out doing well in property and have gone downhill from there, though...

[team ramrob]

57% out of 510 MBE... FML... got a 64 on milestone one though... thats pretty good right?

[zot1]

Is anyone else struggling with the con law questions? I just checked my percentages and they're all in the high 60s and 70s except con law, which is like 50%. Wanted to know if anyone else was sucking on them before i committed to watching all of the videos again or something.

Con Law was definitely my worst. I have 57%, but that's only because I've recently gotten better at the MBEs overall. My very first score was in the 40s, and then the three after were in the low 50s. I'm not rewatching because I think my problem was I needed to read the questions/answers more carefully. Reading the big outline would also be useful because a lot of the questions I've gotten wrong were not discussed in the lecture, handout, or final outline.

[somuchbooty]

Is anyone else struggling with the con law questions? I just checked my percentages and they're all in the high 60s and 70s except con law, which is like 50%. Wanted to know if anyone else was sucking on them before i committed to watching all of the videos again or something.

Con Law was definitely my worst. I have 57%, but that's only because I've recently gotten better at the MBEs overall. My very first score was in the 40s, and then the three after were in the low 50s. I'm not rewatching because I think my problem was I needed to read the questions/answers more carefully. Reading the big outline would also be useful because a lot of the questions I've gotten wrong were not discussed in the lecture, handout, or final outline.

my con law professor was a complete joke in law school, so i didn't learn anything. I figured it'd be easier to learn from scratch but I was wrong. I need to teach myself somehow because the lectures didn't work for me. Maybe I'll give the big outline a shot. I never read those.

[kjartan]

Does anybody else just check the check the box off when Themis tells you to review your lecture outlines? Reading a 40-80 page outlin takes at least an hour. If I reviewed them as frequently as Themis tells me to I would never get anything else done.

[UnamSanctam]

Does anybody else just check the check the box off when Themis tells you to review your lecture outlines? Reading a 40-80 page outlin takes at least an hour. If I reviewed them as frequently as Themis tells me to I would never get anything else done.

Yup. Honestly I don't even read the outline assigned before you start a series of lectures. I find it better to go back when I feel myself losing grasp of most of the subject matter.