Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 Forum

[Vantwins]

They don't make coffee strong enough to motivate me today

Agreed. And the MD agency and partnership lecturer is awful, which doesn't help.

[Easy-E]

They don't make coffee strong enough to motivate me today

Agreed. And the MD agency and partnership lecturer is awful, which doesn't help.

Yeah, Themis wants me to do the MEE today, which I know I'm overdue for, but I feel like I'm gonna give a particularly shitty performance. Might just work through the agency and partnership stuff, and a few PQ sets.

Is anyone else finding themselves waking up in the middle of the night and thinking about Bar shit? I woke up at like 3am last night and couldn't stop thinking about supplemental jurisdiction.

edit: started watching Agency, "that third-party is going to be called...the third party". Goddamnit Birdthistle not today.

[Nebby]

I am finally starting to feel comfortable on some essay subjects. I did my fourth Agency essay today and I was almost able to answer the whole thing without looking to my outline for clarification. Similar progress on Corporations today. If y'all have been skipping the essays, I recommend to start doing them.

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

[Vantwins]

They don't make coffee strong enough to motivate me today

Agreed. And the MD agency and partnership lecturer is awful, which doesn't help.

Yeah, Themis wants me to do the MEE today, which I know I'm overdue for, but I feel like I'm gonna give a particularly shitty performance. Might just work through the agency and partnership stuff, and a few PQ sets.

Is anyone else finding themselves waking up in the middle of the night and thinking about Bar shit? I woke up at like 3am last night and couldn't stop thinking about supplemental jurisdiction.

edit: started watching Agency, "that third-party is going to be called...the third party". Goddamnit Birdthistle not today.

Definitely had a stress dream that it was the day of the bar exam and I had only studied the MBE topics and never gotten to the state specific stuff.

Also got stuck in an elevator the other day with my 10 year old daughter and a stranger and started rattling off the elements for a prima facie case of false imprisonment. That did not seem to calm my daughter down, oddly enough.

[Eldon Tyrell]

Do they give out awards for top scores on the bar exam? Like cash prizes or something you can put on your resume?

[Easy-E]

They don't make coffee strong enough to motivate me today

Agreed. And the MD agency and partnership lecturer is awful, which doesn't help.

Yeah, Themis wants me to do the MEE today, which I know I'm overdue for, but I feel like I'm gonna give a particularly shitty performance. Might just work through the agency and partnership stuff, and a few PQ sets.

Is anyone else finding themselves waking up in the middle of the night and thinking about Bar shit? I woke up at like 3am last night and couldn't stop thinking about supplemental jurisdiction.

edit: started watching Agency, "that third-party is going to be called...the third party". Goddamnit Birdthistle not today.

Definitely had a stress dream that it was the day of the bar exam and I had only studied the MBE topics and never gotten to the state specific stuff.

Also got stuck in an elevator the other day with my 10 year old daughter and a stranger and started rattling off the elements for a prima facie case of false imprisonment. That did not seem to calm my daughter down, oddly enough.

I have constantly been accusing my gf of trespassing upon my chattels

[unidentifiable]

I am finally starting to feel comfortable on some essay subjects. I did my fourth Agency essay today and I was almost able to answer the whole thing without looking to my outline for clarification. Similar progress on Corporations today. If y'all have been skipping the essays, I recommend to start doing them.

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

how tf is this supposed to be a "minimal competency" test?

[ultimolugar]

I am finally starting to feel comfortable on some essay subjects. I did my fourth Agency essay today and I was almost able to answer the whole thing without looking to my outline for clarification. Similar progress on Corporations today. If y'all have been skipping the essays, I recommend to start doing them.

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

how tf is this supposed to be a "minimal competency" test?

That's probably just Themis' way of making sure we don't slack off.

[Chardee_MacDennis]

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

This sucks, but it kinda makes sense. I don't think it's practical to learn all the nuances for every MEE subject.

[Easy-E]

My god the Agency lectures suck

[Nebby]

My god the Agency lectures suck

Yeah. I think so to. I think I have learned most of agency law simply by doing the practice essays with an open outline

Once you get the hang of it, it's actually kinda simple. The only areas I have seen tested are: (1) does an agency relationship exist; (2) does contract liability stem from actual authority, apparent authority, or estoppel; (3) is the agent an employee or independent contractor; and (4) does tort liability stem from actual or apparent authority

I have done 4 practice essays, and number (1) and (2) have been tested on every single one

[Easy-E]

My god the Agency lectures suck

Yeah. I think so to. I think I have learned most of agency law simply by doing the practice essays with an open outline

Once you get the hang of it, it's actually kinda simple. The only areas I have seen tested are: (1) does an agency relationship exist; (2) does contract liability stem from actual authority, apparent authority, or estoppel; (3) is the agent an employee or independent contractor; and (4) does tort liability stem from actual or apparent authority

I have done 4 practice essays, and number (1) and (2) have been tested on every single one

It doesn't seem particularly complicated, the actual layout of the handout/lecture is just irritating me.

[Eldon Tyrell]

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

This sucks, but it kinda makes sense. I don't think it's practical to learn all the nuances for every MEE subject.

8/10 people pass the bar exam that nebby is taking. 9/10 when they finish 75% of the Themis course. They are lying to you. You people are either purposefully dense or shameless gunners, or both.

[Chardee_MacDennis]

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

This sucks, but it kinda makes sense. I don't think it's practical to learn all the nuances for every MEE subject.

8/10 people pass the bar exam that nebby is taking. 9/10 when they finish 75% of the Themis course. They are lying to you. You people are either purposefully dense or shameless gunners, or both.

(Guy who asked if they give cash prizes for top bar scores)

Chill out, there's no need for name calling.

[Eldon Tyrell]

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

This sucks, but it kinda makes sense. I don't think it's practical to learn all the nuances for every MEE subject.

8/10 people pass the bar exam that nebby is taking. 9/10 when they finish 75% of the Themis course. They are lying to you. You people are either purposefully dense or shameless gunners, or both.

(Guy who asked if they give cash prizes for top bar scores)

Chill out, there's no need for name calling.

You've got a good eye for sarcasm.

[Sheeit]

Anyone else find the first Mixed MBE PQ set harder than expected? I missed the goal and need to know the world isn't ending.

[Easy-E]

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

This sucks, but it kinda makes sense. I don't think it's practical to learn all the nuances for every MEE subject.

8/10 people pass the bar exam that nebby is taking. 9/10 when they finish 75% of the Themis course. They are lying to you. You people are either purposefully dense or shameless gunners, or both.

(Guy who asked if they give cash prizes for top bar scores)

Chill out, there's no need for name calling.

You've got a good eye for sarcasm.

You have 21 posts, so nobody really knows you, and stupider things have been posted in these illustrious fora. I didn't think you were kidding. No offense meant.

[Nebby]

Also, I messaged Themis about whether MBE tests more on general concepts or on the nuances. They said the MBE tests more on the nuance, and the essays test more on general knowledge. Which means I won't be surprised if we have a lot of MBE questions that are on exceptions to general rules--or exceptions to the exceptions! FML

This sucks, but it kinda makes sense. I don't think it's practical to learn all the nuances for every MEE subject.

8/10 people pass the bar exam that nebby is taking. 9/10 when they finish 75% of the Themis course. They are lying to you. You people are either purposefully dense or shameless gunners, or both.

(Guy who asked if they give cash prizes for top bar scores)

Chill out, there's no need for name calling.

You've got a good eye for sarcasm.

nice walkback, bruh

[Eldon Tyrell]

Wait, you actually think I was being serious? I posted that in response to your "you guys really need to get going on those essays" comment. You don't get extra points for getting extra points on the bar.

Lol just lol at you people.

[Nebby]

I for one am SHOCKED that a Uchi student is bad at social interaction

[Chardee_MacDennis]

Wait, you actually think I was being serious? I posted that in response to your "you guys really need to get going on those essays" comment. You don't get extra points for getting extra points on the bar.

Lol just lol at you people.

Well then, sick comedic timing on your part

[Eldon Tyrell]

I for one am SHOCKED that a Uchi student is bad at social interaction

Don't see any humans around here, only idiot gunners spinning their wheels.

[Chardee_MacDennis]

I for one am SHOCKED that a Uchi student is bad at social interaction

Don't see any humans around here, only idiot gunners spinning their wheels.

Sorry bro, forgot DAT RIGOR of UChi prepared you to ace the bar with little prep

[Fivedham]

I just wanted to come here to again complain about the whole Themis Best Evidence Rule mind games. Spoilers for Mixed PQ 1:

[+] Spoiler

It happens again!

A plaintiff sued a defendant for breach of contract. The plaintiff claimed that she had ordered 250 widgets from the defendant and that the defendant had only delivered 150 widgets. In his answer, the defendant claimed that the plaintiff had only ordered 150 widgets. On the witness stand, the defendant testified that the plaintiff had ordered the widgets by filling out a purchase order form provided by the defendant. The defendant’s counsel then asked the defendant “What number did the plaintiff fill in on the form for the number of widgets ordered?” The defendant answered “150.” The plaintiff objected to the question, and asked the judge to strike both the question and the answer.

How should the judge rule?
ADeny the motion, as the statement was made by an opposing party.
BDeny the motion, as the statement falls under the exception to the hearsay rule for records of a regularly recorded activity.
CGrant the motion, as the best evidence rule applies.
DGrant the motion because the statement constitutes hearsay not within any exception.

WTF Themis? You tell us it's almost never the right answer BUT IT'S ALWAYS THE RIGHT ANSWER. MAKE UP YOUR MIND, DREXEL ANAL BEADS PROFESSOR!

[jchiles]

Tbf I do feel pretty gunnerish studying 5-6 hours almost every day and being on track for 100% completion, I never studied like this before and even by Themis' own standard it's probably overkill.