THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION Forum

[MRSP]

Is anyone else just getting slaughtered by the Mortgage questions in the practice MBEs?

I felt good after contracts but this is getting pretty depressing

Seems like everyone is.

I know. I kind of want to blame kramer.

Now I am dreading starting the Property law lectures since everyone is not a fan LOL..fml

[Lawworld19]

How far is everyone along percentage wise?

[Lawworld19]

Also, anyone care to share their most recent contracts graded essay if you are taking the bar in Ohio?

[BlueLaw11]

Is anyone else just getting slaughtered by the Mortgage questions in the practice MBEs?

I felt good after contracts but this is getting pretty depressing

Seems like everyone is.

I know. I kind of want to blame kramer.

Now I am dreading starting the Property law lectures since everyone is not a fan LOL..fml

People here seem to disagree, but I personally really liked the lecturer. It's a dreadfully boring subject and he made me chuckle so it coulda been worse. The biggest problem is that (at least in my case) my class didn't cover half of the material so it made the latter half of the lectures a pain

[thisiswater]

yeah I had a failure of a memorial day in terms on bar work. Going to plow through the rest of Prop tomorrow and start pushing a little harder.

[Pawprynt]

How far is everyone along percentage wise?

I’m just under 20% and hoping to work ahead a little more in the next week. It has been hard adjusting to a routine with working part time.

I feel like I just detest doing the practice essays. Dreading getting that back in the next few days!

[Pawprynt]

Is anyone else just getting slaughtered by the Mortgage questions in the practice MBEs?

I felt good after contracts but this is getting pretty depressing

Seems like everyone is.

I know. I kind of want to blame kramer.

Now I am dreading starting the Property law lectures since everyone is not a fan LOL..fml

People here seem to disagree, but I personally really liked the lecturer. It's a dreadfully boring subject and he made me chuckle so it coulda been worse. The biggest problem is that (at least in my case) my class didn't cover half of the material so it made the latter half of the lectures a pain

Same! He made it at least semi engaging. I appreciated it, although I felt like the contracts guy was clearer. Yeah my property class did not cover mortgages and my prof (literally) wrote the book. How did we not cover that in 1L property? Should have taken real estate transactions! I feel good about everything except mortgages/foreclosure.

[MRSP]

What did everyone average on these contracts PQs? Anyone else not score way above goal? I did well in contracts class and enjoyed the Themis lecture but some of these questions are tripping me up.

[Transfer2016]

What did everyone average on these contracts PQs? Anyone else not score way above goal? I did well in contracts class and enjoyed the Themis lecture but some of these questions are tripping me up.

I averaged around 70%.

[Tala29]

70?!! Yes, now I am freaked out, I average 58 on contracts, 55 on property....

[Lawworld19]

I average 51% on contracts so far, but trending upward. Been getting 60's recently

[thisiswater]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

[Lawworld19]

Are the adaptibar flashcards extra?

[BlueLaw11]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

Are you familiar with the difference between Adaptibar flash cards and Critical Pass? Not familiar with Adaptibar

[thisyearsgirl]

What did everyone average on these contracts PQs? Anyone else not score way above goal? I did well in contracts class and enjoyed the Themis lecture but some of these questions are tripping me up.

I averaged low 60's, with an upward trend.

[thisiswater]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

Are you familiar with the difference between Adaptibar flash cards and Critical Pass? Not familiar with Adaptibar

I have the critical pass cards but i could't figure out how to use them as flashcards. They had too much info on each one for me read the question, say my answer and then flip and check if I was right or not. They aren't a bad cheatsheet/attack outline though

[Lawworld19]

Agreee with above poster. I just didn't get the appeal of critical FC's. Didn't do anything for me.

[BlueLaw11]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

Are you familiar with the difference between Adaptibar flash cards and Critical Pass? Not familiar with Adaptibar

I have the critical pass cards but i could't figure out how to use them as flashcards. They had too much info on each one for me read the question, say my answer and then flip and check if I was right or not. They aren't a bad cheatsheet/attack outline though

Yeah that's been my experience with them, kinda frustrating. Is Adaptibar a better experience in your opinion?

[BlueLaw11]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

Are you familiar with the difference between Adaptibar flash cards and Critical Pass? Not familiar with Adaptibar

I have the critical pass cards but i could't figure out how to use them as flashcards. They had too much info on each one for me read the question, say my answer and then flip and check if I was right or not. They aren't a bad cheatsheet/attack outline though

Yeah that's been my experience with them, kinda frustrating. Is Adaptibar a better experience in your opinion?

[Transfer2016]

Anyone else get a 2/6 on the contracts essay even though you stated the law correctly and reached the correct conclusions?

[Lawworld19]

What state is the above poster stating? And yes, I got a 2 on the contracts test. Very much worried.

[thisiswater]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

Are you familiar with the difference between Adaptibar flash cards and Critical Pass? Not familiar with Adaptibar

I have the critical pass cards but i could't figure out how to use them as flashcards. They had too much info on each one for me read the question, say my answer and then flip and check if I was right or not. They aren't a bad cheatsheet/attack outline though

Yeah that's been my experience with them, kinda frustrating. Is Adaptibar a better experience in your opinion?

As an example, here is the adaptibar flashcard I just did

Q- "What is the lien theory of property ownership?"
A- "Jurisdictions following the lien theory of property ownership consider the mortgagor to be the owner and mortgagee to merely hold a security interest in the property"
And then they have a note about needing to understand the difference between title and lien theory.

I do think you could make these on your own using critical pass flashcards, and the act of writing would probably be good for memorization if thats of interest to you.

[Lawworld19]

Is there a way you can print them out? It would be so nice to have physical copies.

[thisiswater]

Is there a way you can print them out? It would be so nice to have physical copies.

You can't even copy and paste so I don't think so. The app is pretty good though, so you can run them on your phone

[BlueLaw11]

I scored in the 50's on my first set of contracts PQs but after I bought the adaptibar flash cards and did like 80 or so I saw an immediate uptick into the high 60s. I don't think I had the base knowledge from just the lectures and skimming the outlines

Are you familiar with the difference between Adaptibar flash cards and Critical Pass? Not familiar with Adaptibar

I have the critical pass cards but i could't figure out how to use them as flashcards. They had too much info on each one for me read the question, say my answer and then flip and check if I was right or not. They aren't a bad cheatsheet/attack outline though

Yeah that's been my experience with them, kinda frustrating. Is Adaptibar a better experience in your opinion?

As an example, here is the adaptibar flashcard I just did

Q- "What is the lien theory of property ownership?"
A- "Jurisdictions following the lien theory of property ownership consider the mortgagor to be the owner and mortgagee to merely hold a security interest in the property"
And then they have a note about needing to understand the difference between title and lien theory.

I do think you could make these on your own using critical pass flashcards, and the act of writing would probably be good for memorization if thats of interest to you.

Appreciate it, thanks

Also, for those who haven't gotten to Torts yet, be ready to get very familiar with the "x2" speed setting..