NY Bar Feb Exam: Support Group Forum

[NY_Sea]

I am a retaker and I am starting to get really nervous. I feel like I was so much further ahead at this point for the summer bar exam and I still failed (CA bar). I am having such a hard time keeping up with the Barbri schedule. Should I be stressing that I don't know the NY distinctions that well at this point?

There are really some NY distinctions that they apparently like to test a bunch... Reputation evidence for character evidence instead of opinion and reputation for the Multistate; 10 years for adverse possession; Needing a good faith claim to the land for adverse possession (whereas you don't need one for the Multistate); They love indelible right to counsel... Think MBE right to counsel on steroids; Remember that NY doesn't do the whole premises liability thing... They take it into consideration, but at the end of the day it's just a reasonably prudent person standard and not strictly unknown, known, invitee, licensee.

You'll get there... Just keep grinding. That's what we all need to tell ourselves... It's almost over. Be confident and don't get down on yourself... It can only hurt your productivity.

[iwantmybar]

Do you think the Kaplan mBE Q bank is worth buying?

Over 2100 answered on adaptibar, getting 72.4% , i'm thinking about switching but $299 is a bit expensive, considering 'ill probably able to only do 500 questions.

[NY_Sea]

Do you think the Kaplan mBE Q bank is worth buying?

Over 2100 answered on adaptibar, getting 72.4% , i'm thinking about switching but $299 is a bit expensive, considering 'ill probably able to only do 500 questions.

That's up to you... From what I read before I bit the bullet on Adaptibar, it seems they're both using the same "library" of past MBE questions. Only difference would be the guesstimated Civ Pro questions. I don't think that sounds worth it to me... But if they have totally different REAL MBE QUESTIONS then I would feel more comfortable buying it.

Also, are you 72.4% average on the total 2,100 or are you just now hitting that average? If you're averaging 72.4% total, then I don't know if it's even necessary for you. I'm about where you are, but I'm averaging 70% total because of an awful first month averaging around 55%. I go more off of what I'm hitting over this past month... Which is hovering around 80%.

[iwantmybar]

Do you think the Kaplan mBE Q bank is worth buying?

Over 2100 answered on adaptibar, getting 72.4% , i'm thinking about switching but $299 is a bit expensive, considering 'ill probably able to only do 500 questions.

That's up to you... From what I read before I bit the bullet on Adaptibar, it seems they're both using the same "library" of past MBE questions. Only difference would be the guesstimated Civ Pro questions. I don't think that sounds worth it to me... But if they have totally different REAL MBE QUESTIONS then I would feel more comfortable buying it.

Also, are you 72.4% average on the total 2,100 or are you just now hitting that average? If you're averaging 72.4% total, then I don't know if it's even necessary for you. I'm about where you are, but I'm averaging 70% total because of an awful first month averaging around 55%. I go more off of what I'm hitting over this past month... Which is hovering around 80%.

Nop i've been pretty constant.
I took a screen :

http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?i ... 180331.png

Last performance table was

6
(1751-2100)
2/1/16-2/6/16"
78,3%
I'm not confident at all about that MBE. After getting 121 last July ( I was at 64% on adaptibar i think ) I'm just really scared of that thing.

[NY_Sea]

Do you think the Kaplan mBE Q bank is worth buying?

Over 2100 answered on adaptibar, getting 72.4% , i'm thinking about switching but $299 is a bit expensive, considering 'ill probably able to only do 500 questions.

That's up to you... From what I read before I bit the bullet on Adaptibar, it seems they're both using the same "library" of past MBE questions. Only difference would be the guesstimated Civ Pro questions. I don't think that sounds worth it to me... But if they have totally different REAL MBE QUESTIONS then I would feel more comfortable buying it.

Also, are you 72.4% average on the total 2,100 or are you just now hitting that average? If you're averaging 72.4% total, then I don't know if it's even necessary for you. I'm about where you are, but I'm averaging 70% total because of an awful first month averaging around 55%. I go more off of what I'm hitting over this past month... Which is hovering around 80%.

Nop i've been pretty constant.
I took a screen :

http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?i ... 180331.png

Last performance table was

6
(1751-2100)
2/1/16-2/6/16"
78,3%
I'm not confident at all about that MBE. After getting 121 last July ( I was at 64% on adaptibar i think ) I'm just really scared of that thing.

I don't think anyone really is... But I'll tell you one thing, I'm more confident than I was this summer for sure. That means something to me. I think you should be a little more confident in your knowledge... Not to the point where you slack off, but confidence helps immensely in terms of performance.

[Ineedhelpplease]

I know after all this everybody has gone through it.. today I got a horrible migraine (not prone to them) - been limited to an mpt outline and 30 mbe questions.

Cant wait until its over !!!!!!

[nywll]

This may be a very stupid question. I failed the 2015 July NY bar, and am retaking it in Feb. I didn't send my law school proof this time, because the exam location email said for re-applicant the law school proof stays on file. I sent my law school proof in last June, and it was approved. Do I need to send in the law school proof again? Thank you very much.

[NY_Sea]

This may be a very stupid question. I failed the 2015 July NY bar, and am retaking it in Feb. I didn't send my law school proof this time, because the exam location email said for re-applicant the law school proof stays on file. I sent my law school proof in last June, and it was approved. Do I need to send in the law school proof again? Thank you very much.

You should be good to go... They would have told you by now if you needed to supplement.

[nywll]

This may be a very stupid question. I failed the 2015 July NY bar, and am retaking it in Feb. I didn't send my law school proof this time, because the exam location email said for re-applicant the law school proof stays on file. I sent my law school proof in last June, and it was approved. Do I need to send in the law school proof again? Thank you very much.

You should be good to go... They would have told you by now if you needed to supplement.

Thanks a lot. I remember back in June I received an confirmation email saying I am eligible to sit for the 2015 July bar. But I haven't received a similar email confirming my eligibility to sit for the 2016 February bar yet. Have re-applicants received a eligibility confirmation email for the 2016 Feb bar yet? Many thanks.

[NY_Sea]

This may be a very stupid question. I failed the 2015 July NY bar, and am retaking it in Feb. I didn't send my law school proof this time, because the exam location email said for re-applicant the law school proof stays on file. I sent my law school proof in last June, and it was approved. Do I need to send in the law school proof again? Thank you very much.

You should be good to go... They would have told you by now if you needed to supplement.

Thanks a lot. I remember back in June I received an confirmation email saying I am eligible to sit for the 2015 July bar. But I haven't received a similar email confirming my eligibility to sit for the 2016 February bar yet. Have re-applicants received a eligibility confirmation email for the 2016 Feb bar yet? Many thanks.

6. RE-APPLICANTS

If you previously sat for a prior administration of the exam and did not pass, you do NOT need to re-submit your supporting documentation. You will be notified if the Board needs an updated verified Handwriting Sample.

This was what was in the email I got when I applied... You're good.

[iwantmybar]

Seat ticket received.

[NY_Sea]

Seat ticket received.

Ditto. It's real now, folks. 2 weeks... THANK GOD.

[3Lmao]

I am a retaker and I am starting to get really nervous. I feel like I was so much further ahead at this point for the summer bar exam and I still failed (CA bar). I am having such a hard time keeping up with the Barbri schedule. Should I be stressing that I don't know the NY distinctions that well at this point?

There are really some NY distinctions that they apparently like to test a bunch... Reputation evidence for character evidence instead of opinion and reputation for the Multistate; 10 years for adverse possession; Needing a good faith claim to the land for adverse possession (whereas you don't need one for the Multistate); They love indelible right to counsel... Think MBE right to counsel on steroids; Remember that NY doesn't do the whole premises liability thing... They take it into consideration, but at the end of the day it's just a reasonably prudent person standard and not strictly unknown, known, invitee, licensee.

You'll get there... Just keep grinding. That's what we all need to tell ourselves... It's almost over. Be confident and don't get down on yourself... It can only hurt your productivity.

Thanks for the encouragement NY_Sea. I realized that these are the last two days that I have to learn new NY material in the Barbri schedule so from here on out we all just need to keep plugging along. Thankfully it will be over soon enough lol

[NY_Sea]

I am a retaker and I am starting to get really nervous. I feel like I was so much further ahead at this point for the summer bar exam and I still failed (CA bar). I am having such a hard time keeping up with the Barbri schedule. Should I be stressing that I don't know the NY distinctions that well at this point?

There are really some NY distinctions that they apparently like to test a bunch... Reputation evidence for character evidence instead of opinion and reputation for the Multistate; 10 years for adverse possession; Needing a good faith claim to the land for adverse possession (whereas you don't need one for the Multistate); They love indelible right to counsel... Think MBE right to counsel on steroids; Remember that NY doesn't do the whole premises liability thing... They take it into consideration, but at the end of the day it's just a reasonably prudent person standard and not strictly unknown, known, invitee, licensee.

You'll get there... Just keep grinding. That's what we all need to tell ourselves... It's almost over. Be confident and don't get down on yourself... It can only hurt your productivity.

Thanks for the encouragement NY_Sea. I realized that these are the last two days that I have to learn new NY material in the Barbri schedule so from here on out we all just need to keep plugging along. Thankfully it will be over soon enough lol

Anytime... We all need to be there for one another. This sucks and no one else (except for other people who have studied for it) really understands how much it sucks. Yes, two more days of new material, and then it's all just getting the info into your head.

[JimmyConway]

Anyone have any resources for the most heavily tested NY essays and predictions for the upcoming exam?

I took CA in July and found a lot of the predictions to be useful when used with caution.

[gtg]

Anyone have any resources for the most heavily tested NY essays and predictions for the upcoming exam?

I took CA in July and found a lot of the predictions to be useful when used with caution.

I have the same question. If I had to guess, I would say they will most likely give a NY Practice question, since it's the last time they can do so. Plus, they are making the future bar takers in NY take an online course on NY Practice, which also points to the fact that they will probably throw a NYP question our way.

[Carly12]

Would any of you be able to share notes on NY practice? Struggling with the material I have right now...

[Carly12]

Anyone have any resources for the most heavily tested NY essays and predictions for the upcoming exam?

I took CA in July and found a lot of the predictions to be useful when used with caution.

Yes, in order of number of bar exam appearances in the essay portion since 2004 (both July and February)

Wills 22/22
Torts 21/22
Domestic relations 20/22
Contracts 19/22
New York Practice 18/22
Corporations 17/22
Criminal law 17/22
Criminal procedure 16/22
Real property 16/22
Professional responsibility 15/22
Trusts 10/22
Evidence 9/22
All the rest have appeared on less than 9 exams.

[iwantmybar]

As gtg said, they will probably test NY practice, I hope it will be limited to a SOL question that would be perfect, if they can avoid asking about attachment or lis pendency or some shit that will be great.

Also, i'm convinced they are going to throw some wills questions and some corps questions as well. Corp was not tested last july so I wouldn't be surprised to see a corp + will question.

[NY_Sea]

As gtg said, they will probably test NY practice, I hope it will be limited to a SOL question that would be perfect, if they can avoid asking about attachment or lis pendency or some shit that will be great.

Also, i'm convinced they are going to throw some wills questions and some corps questions as well. Corp was not tested last july so I wouldn't be surprised to see a corp + will question.

There WILL be a wills essay... There always is, as evidenced by the stats Carly gave. NYP will probably be one of a few things (or several of these combined, if they wanted to make an essay strictly NYP)... SOL, Service, PJ/Longarm, Summary Judgment, Maybe the 6 month extension rule. I doubt they'll do something like a Lis Pendens, but they may do attachment.

If I were a betting man, I'd say there's an admin law issue somewhere, considering the short amount of time they've had to test it since introducing it last February. Probably a more expansive Crim Law/Pro issue, since there was only a tiny Crim issue on July, and I'd say that there's the most distinctions between Fed and NY in Crim Law/Pro.

[iwantmybar]

As gtg said, they will probably test NY practice, I hope it will be limited to a SOL question that would be perfect, if they can avoid asking about attachment or lis pendency or some shit that will be great.

Also, i'm convinced they are going to throw some wills questions and some corps questions as well. Corp was not tested last july so I wouldn't be surprised to see a corp + will question.

There WILL be a wills essay... There always is, as evidenced by the stats Carly gave. NYP will probably be one of a few things (or several of these combined, if they wanted to make an essay strictly NYP)... SOL, Service, PJ/Longarm, Summary Judgment, Maybe the 6 month extension rule. I doubt they'll do something like a Lis Pendens, but they may do attachment.

If I were a betting man, I'd say there's an admin law issue somewhere, considering the short amount of time they've had to test it since introducing it last February. Probably a more expansive Crim Law/Pro issue, since there was only a tiny Crim issue on July, and I'd say that there's the most distinctions between Fed and NY in Crim Law/Pro.

Yes, I think you are very right concerning criminal law/procedure. Personally, I bet they will test Corps.

I really hope that they are not going to get into fullasshole mode and ask about the most obscures topics ever since it is the last chance for them to do so.

[Ineedhelpplease]

Would any of you be able to share notes on NY practice? Struggling with the material I have right now...

Hope this helps, likely subjects tested on NY Practice are: Long Arm Jurisdiction, Statute of Limitations, Failure to State a Cause of Action, Partial Summary Judgment, Summary Judgment Motion, Discovery, Contempt of Court, Res Judicata/Collateral Estoppel.

Note that it is usually tested with Contracts, Torts and Domestic Relations.

[NY_Sea]

Would any of you be able to share notes on NY practice? Struggling with the material I have right now...

Hope this helps, likely subjects tested on NY Practice are: Long Arm Jurisdiction, Statute of Limitations, Failure to State a Cause of Action, Partial Summary Judgment, Summary Judgment Motion, Discovery, Contempt of Court, Res Judicata/Collateral Estoppel.

Note that it is usually tested with Contracts, Torts and Domestic Relations.

Yeah, those are really the meat and potatoes of NYP... Also, just to elaborate... When I was talking about the 6 month rule before, I was talking about the rule where if your case gets dismissed for reasons other than: i) Dismissal on the merits; ii) Neglect to prosecute; iii) Lack of PJ; and iv) voluntary discontinuance, you get 6 months to re-file your case.

[JimmyConway]

Would any of you be able to share notes on NY practice? Struggling with the material I have right now...

Hope this helps, likely subjects tested on NY Practice are: Long Arm Jurisdiction, Statute of Limitations, Failure to State a Cause of Action, Partial Summary Judgment, Summary Judgment Motion, Discovery, Contempt of Court, Res Judicata/Collateral Estoppel.

Note that it is usually tested with Contracts, Torts and Domestic Relations.

I am basically excluvely studying for the NY Subjects via SmartBar Prep outlines.

They don't seem to have anything for content of court and hardly anything on discovery. Could you point me in the right direction on those rules?

[Ineedhelpplease]

Would any of you be able to share notes on NY practice? Struggling with the material I have right now...

Hope this helps, likely subjects tested on NY Practice are: Long Arm Jurisdiction, Statute of Limitations, Failure to State a Cause of Action, Partial Summary Judgment, Summary Judgment Motion, Discovery, Contempt of Court, Res Judicata/Collateral Estoppel.

Note that it is usually tested with Contracts, Torts and Domestic Relations.

I am basically excluvely studying for the NY Subjects via SmartBar Prep outlines.

They don't seem to have anything for content of court and hardly anything on discovery. Could you point me in the right direction on those rules?

Im using Seperac... and I am just focusing on high priority topics (the ones I listed). And no discovery issues are mentioned as a priority at all (high - med - or low).

May not be the best way to study but at this point Im hoping his high priority stuff is on point if not I'm going to be making up a lot of law on test day.