Barbri paced program question? Forum

[MoneyMay]

For MBE questions do most people read the call of the question first? I haven't been doing this since I know what subject I'm working on, but feel that I should try and get into this habit for test day.

I have been and sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't although like you said maybe once the subjects are mixed it will be more beneficial to know what the question is about before going into it

[alicrimson]

For MBE questions do most people read the call of the question first? I haven't been doing this since I know what subject I'm working on, but feel that I should try and get into this habit for test day.

I have been and sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't although like you said maybe once the subjects are mixed it will be more beneficial to know what the question is about before going into it

I do for the MBE. For the state questions Barbri has given us, I haven't been able to in certain subjects. Mainly, because it isn't separated that well from the rest of the question/the fact patterns can be longer and cover 2-3 questions.

[LAWYER2]

I read through this entire thread and I'm feeling a little bit better about myself! I've been questioning if I'm keeping up with the paced program and if I could make better use of my time.
TLS was a God-send during LS and I have no clue why I'm just now returning for bar prep, but I'm glad I did!

I'm at the 37% mark but that damn green arrow is always ahead of the game and is bugging the crap outta me!
I watch the videos on 1.75x speed and complete the worksheets while at work (part-time) from about 9-12, once at home, I get in anywhere from 36-54 MBE's a day. I outline the essays best I can, but sometimes it feels useless because I don't have enough BLL under my belt. I've been skimming the CMR, just brushing up on points I need clarification on from the lecture. All this consumes about 6-7 hours a day, but I feel like I should be doing more.

Any input?

[MoneyMay]

I read through this entire thread and I'm feeling a little bit better about myself! I've been questioning if I'm keeping up with the paced program and if I could make better use of my time.
TLS was a God-send during LS and I have no clue why I'm just now returning for bar prep, but I'm glad I did!

I'm at the 37% mark but that damn green arrow is always ahead of the game and is bugging the crap outta me!
I watch the videos on 1.75x speed and complete the worksheets while at work (part-time) from about 9-12, once at home, I get in anywhere from 36-54 MBE's a day. I outline the essays best I can, but sometimes it feels useless because I don't have enough BLL under my belt. I've been skimming the CMR, just brushing up on points I need clarification on from the lecture. All this consumes about 6-7 hours a day, but I feel like I should be doing more.

Any input?

I am by no means an expert in this but FWIW I honestly think you're fine if you can put more time in after July 4th and definitely the 10 days right before. Most people I know bombed the BarBri midterm and then picked their shit up after that. And lets face it even the lecturers have commented on how we aren't memorizing shit yet (or mine have). I feel like if I could've gotten the filled out hand outs I could've taken June off.

I'm not even doing essays right now because I don't know what the law is and I find myself getting frustrated and just going through the motions without getting anything out of it (although I should probably do some soon).

[raregem]

Where are folks getting other MBE questions from? I feel like I need more MBE questions than Barbri provides.

[jarofsoup]

I am getting 7/18 on some of these sets. I am going to fail the bar.

[jaydizzle]

I am getting 7/18 on some of these sets. I am going to fail the bar.

Dude, you are not alone. I just got an 11/18 and followed it up by 7/18. I am narrowing the answers down, but a lot of times my wrong answers come from my logic not agreeing with them. For example, how the heck do they view this as a provocation? I didn't see it in their example. Ugh.

[pkt63]

I am getting 7/18 on some of these sets. I am going to fail the bar.

Dude, you are not alone. I just got an 11/18 and followed it up by 7/18. I am narrowing the answers down, but a lot of times my wrong answers come from my logic not agreeing with them. For example, how the heck do they view this as a provocation? I didn't see it in their example. Ugh.

This is the hardest part of studying for the bar for me. I have no problem keeping up with the paced program and even doing a little bit extra, but it is demoralizing, to say the least, to practice the MC questions and do so poorly, even though I have always scored at or above the target scores they give. Reading the answers is helpful half the time and half the time it is just enraging because they either expect you to interpret factual things the same way they do (e.g. the provocation thing) or it was on some exception to an exception that I didn't see even in the CMR much less in the lecture. I would really like MC questions from which I can learn and practice to improve, not just feel hopeless and want to quit practicing.

The only thing that gives me hope is how much it is like the MPRE. When I studied for that, I never scored above 75% on practice tests. But my actual score on the test was astronomical and ridiculous. So I am still hopeful I'll pass the bar, but it's painful to have to feel so shitty on the way to that.

[LAWYER2]

I think its by design. The question sets seem to get successively harder as you go along. I bombed crim law/pro yesterday and it was full of areas I'd never covered in LS, CMR, or the lectures. Full of constitutional policy and scenarios that turn on facts that could go either way. Just keep chugging along, July 31st, this will be all behind us!

[At the Drive-In]

I think its by design. The question sets seem to get successively harder as you go along. I bombed crim law/pro yesterday and it was full of areas I'd never covered in LS, CMR, or the lectures. Full of constitutional policy and scenarios that turn on facts that could go either way. Just keep chugging along, July 31st, this will be all behind us!

I took every criminal class in law school with the exception of 1 and did criminal work for my entire 3l year, and I am bombing the crim law/pro stuff. It's way harder. I hope it isn't that hard on the actual MBE.

[ph14]

Where are folks getting other MBE questions from? I feel like I need more MBE questions than Barbri provides.

I've been varying from 9/18 to 15/18. I agree that it might be nice to have more MBE questions. Do we only have the 6 sets of 18 plus whatever half/full practice tests? I would like to drill a bunch without worrying too much about my score.

[AJS30]

Where are folks getting other MBE questions from? I feel like I need more MBE questions than Barbri provides.

I've been varying from 9/18 to 15/18. I agree that it might be nice to have more MBE questions. Do we only have the 6 sets of 18 plus whatever half/full practice tests? I would like to drill a bunch without worrying too much about my score.

I think there are additional MBE questions in the "Practice Questions" Section under the Studysmart MBE link.

Also, I've saved the July 91 and 92 MBE to my computer to maybe use those as additional practice questions, even though it says you shouldn't rely on it because laws have changed and may not reflect the current style of questions.

Has anyone purchased the Online Practice Exams off the NCBE site?

[MoneyMay]

Where are folks getting other MBE questions from? I feel like I need more MBE questions than Barbri provides.

I've been varying from 9/18 to 15/18. I agree that it might be nice to have more MBE questions. Do we only have the 6 sets of 18 plus whatever half/full practice tests? I would like to drill a bunch without worrying too much about my score.

I think there are additional MBE questions in the "Practice Questions" Section under the Studysmart MBE link.

Also, I've saved the July 91 and 92 MBE to my computer to maybe use those as additional practice questions, even though it says you shouldn't rely on it because laws have changed and may not reflect the current style of questions.

Has anyone purchased the Online Practice Exams off the NCBE site?

I haven't but I am thinking about it, I have heard those questions are the best indicators of the current style of MBE questions.

[salvage]

It's bizarre, when I do the contracts sets or problems alone, I'll get anywhere from 12 to 15 out of 18, but then whenever I practice on a mixed set, I get every single contracts question wrong.

[LAWYER2]

Any input for the super-duper long questions? My mind seems to get flustered when reading through them. Are you guys slowing down and dissecting the longer questions with greater care then making up the time difference on the shorter questions?

[charcop]

Where are folks getting other MBE questions from? I feel like I need more MBE questions than Barbri provides.

I've been varying from 9/18 to 15/18. I agree that it might be nice to have more MBE questions. Do we only have the 6 sets of 18 plus whatever half/full practice tests? I would like to drill a bunch without worrying too much about my score.

I think there are additional MBE questions in the "Practice Questions" Section under the Studysmart MBE link.

Also, I've saved the July 91 and 92 MBE to my computer to maybe use those as additional practice questions, even though it says you shouldn't rely on it because laws have changed and may not reflect the current style of questions.

Has anyone purchased the Online Practice Exams off the NCBE site?

The studysmart MBE questions online are actually the same questions from the "MBE Practice Questions" book, but in a different order. I stopped working on the studysmart MBE when I started to recognize the same questions I had done earlier from the book.

I actually just ordered the MBE strategy book from Emanuel (albeit an older version from 2009, but I figure the questions can't be THAT different) because I heard Emanuel actually uses past questions. The newest version is going for $60 on amazon, but I found the 2009 version on bn.com for $20 and figured I would otherwise probably waste my money on things I dont need...

[plath]

Gosh are you guys all doing supp MBE questions? Where do you get them from?
I can barely keep up with the PP (reached 34% so far) and I've only been practicing w/ Barbri material - In how bad of a shape am I?

[Stringer6]

Gosh are you guys all doing supp MBE questions? Where do you get them from?
I can barely keep up with the PP (reached 34% so far) and I've only been practicing w/ Barbri material - In how bad of a shape am I?

You're fine. Don't worry.

[charcop]

I'm at 24% of the paced program. I don't do the amps and haven't been checking off "review notes from ..."

[LAWYER2]

I completed ALL the amps prior to starting the program. I figured why not, but I know they can be a pain in the ass.

**TIP** Complete these subject correlated Quizlet cards before taking each AMP and you'll literally breeze right through them!

http://quizlet.com/ncruz3

[jd20132013]

Had no idea the videos reviewing the MBE workshops would be so helpful. Definitely going to dig into these

[prs362]

Had no idea the videos reviewing the MBE workshops would be so helpful. Definitely going to dig into these

Im the exact opposite. I spend a lot of time reviewing the right answer/wrong answer explanations in the back, and then watch the videos at 2.0 speed. Sometimes the lecturers give different break downs of the law and I just can't make myself incorporate yet another source of the same law into my outlines.

[MoneyMay]

Had no idea the videos reviewing the MBE workshops would be so helpful. Definitely going to dig into these

Im the exact opposite. I spend a lot of time reviewing the right answer/wrong answer explanations in the back, and then watch the videos at 2.0 speed. Sometimes the lecturers give different break downs of the law and I just can't make myself incorporate yet another source of the same law into my outlines.

Same... I even skipped one of them because he was talking about shit in a weird way that was way different than the system I already had in my head for that subject (evidence).

And FUCK CON LAW. It's supposed to be the easiest subject and I am getting destroyed by the practice questions, by far my worst subject.

[LSATNightmares]

Any input for the super-duper long questions? My mind seems to get flustered when reading through them. Are you guys slowing down and dissecting the longer questions with greater care then making up the time difference on the shorter questions?

The introduction video to the simulated MBE exam has good advice.

[At the Drive-In]

I'm not sure if I really like or really hate the way the workshops are set up. I mean, it makes sense that they lump everything together by topic, and sometimes the workshop videos are good about how to attack certain questions, but I feel like it makes you feel as if everything is artificially easier. If you know the next X questions are hearsay questions, and then none of the other ones are, of COURSE it would be easier to figure out.

All of the workshops are the same. They go over whatever the barbri lecturers said are the major points in every subject and then throw in one or two specific laws (Congress having authority to police D.C., for example).

I watched evidence and crim law, and con law, but I have yet to touch the other ones, should I?