MA Essays Forum

Sps2016 · Post by **Sps2016** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:06 pm

As a repeat taker (failed by 6 pts in july), this forum has provided much needed comfort for mounting anxiety. I appreciate glansberg for starting this forum 4 us mass takers. Good luck 2 all! I truly hope we all pass! Positive thoughts guys...positive thoughts.

Glansberg88 · Post by **Glansberg88** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:34 pm

Praying for everyone too. Not feeling great about the essays this long after the exam!

Sps2016 · Post by **Sps2016** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:39 pm

Glansberg88 wrote:Praying for everyone too. Not feeling great about the essays this long after the exam!

Im not feeling 2 great either...essays were my downfall last time. There's just no way 2 tell how u did. Its done now though...so lets just hope come friday or saturday its good news!

PishPosh · Post by **PishPosh** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:51 am

Did any of you take it in Springfield back in February? I did and would do it again! Very small low key group. None of that bar drama you hear about.

Was Boston any different?

Ohmygahh · Post by **Ohmygahh** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:14 pm

How are we doing, guys?

Sps2016 · Post by **Sps2016** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:11 pm

I am soooo nervous. I keep playing both scenarios in my head...pass or fail. I've never wanted something so bad in my life! I know all of u can relate. If i see that yellow paper again i'm going to have a serious breakdown

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:57 am

Sps2016 wrote:
Glansberg88 wrote:Praying for everyone too. Not feeling great about the essays this long after the exam!
Im not feeling 2 great either...essays were my downfall last time. There's just no way 2 tell how u did. Its done now though...so lets just hope come friday or saturday its good news!

Surprisingly, Boston wasn't bad in Feb.. There wasn't that many people compared to the July exam so instead of taking it in that room that reminds me of warehouse it was help upstairs in what could be considered their banquet halls. Maybe 200 people per room. Wasn't bad at all.

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:58 am

Just a few more days of waiting!!!!

kamitchell17 · Post by **kamitchell17** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:00 am

Sps2016 wrote:I am soooo nervous. I keep playing both scenarios in my head...pass or fail. I've never wanted something so bad in my life! I know all of u can relate. If i see that yellow paper again i'm going to have a serious breakdown

Me, too. I get nauseous thinking of the effing yellow paper...I bet some people who live in Boston will get their results today...

Good luck everyone!!!!

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:27 am

kamitchell17 wrote:
Sps2016 wrote:I am soooo nervous. I keep playing both scenarios in my head...pass or fail. I've never wanted something so bad in my life! I know all of u can relate. If i see that yellow paper again i'm going to have a serious breakdown
Me, too. I get nauseous thinking of the effing yellow paper...I bet some people who live in Boston will get their results today...

Good luck everyone!!!!

I am just hoping that ALL of us are on that list!!! I really want to be done with this so I can close this chapter of my life!!

ReachTheBar79 · Post by **ReachTheBar79** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:56 am

When do you think they will post the stats??

kamitchell17 · Post by **kamitchell17** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:57 am

ReachTheBar79 wrote:When do you think they will post the stats??

Monday, the 25th - according to the ma bar examiners page...

ReachTheBar79 · Post by **ReachTheBar79** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:59 am

kamitchell17 wrote:
ReachTheBar79 wrote:When do you think they will post the stats??
Monday, the 25th - according to the ma bar examiners page...

I meant, the stats of percentage of passers and takers. Last October 23 they posted that 79% of people passed. I remember the date because I was with people. I was hoping not to be one of the approx 300 who failed!

Ohmygahh · Post by **Ohmygahh** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:17 am

ReachTheBar79 wrote:
kamitchell17 wrote:
ReachTheBar79 wrote:When do you think they will post the stats??
Monday, the 25th - according to the ma bar examiners page...
I meant, the stats of percentage of passers and takers. Last October 23 they posted that 79% of people passed. I remember the date because I was with people. I was hoping not to be one of the approx 300 who failed!

Probably tomorrow.

PishPosh · Post by **PishPosh** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:31 am

Can they post the stats before people have had a fair chance to be notified? It would suck if you learned second hand how you fared!

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:35 am

PishPosh wrote:Can they post the stats before people have had a fair chance to be notified? It would suck if you learned second hand how you fared!

They have in the past. I agree that they will post stats tomorrow.

Dotson525 · Post by **Dotson525** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:57 am

This waiting game is the worse!!! After failing the bar, I thought I would be used to this. However, this time it's worse. I keep going over the essays. Even looking at the notes I wrote. After the past exams I immediately felt like I failed. This time I really just don't know. I feel like I couldn't deal with another failure. It's been rough keeping it to myself. The comments posted on this forum are very encouraging though. Thanks! Best of luck to all!!!

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:02 am

Dotson525 wrote:This waiting game is the worse!!! After failing the bar, I thought I would be used to this. However, this time it's worse. I keep going over the essays. Even looking at the notes I wrote. After the past exams I immediately felt like I failed. This time I really just don't know. I feel like I couldn't deal with another failure. It's been rough keeping it to myself. The comments posted on this forum are very encouraging though. Thanks! Best of luck to all!!!

I am right there with you.. At this point I really really want this to be over. When they post the stats I will kinda sorta what my chances are because this is not my 1st or 2nd time.. My problems with the essays are the way they are graded.. You truly never know how you will do on them.. it is in the hands of the grader. I am just hoping that I was able to raise my mbe score. I felt decent in the am but my pm was brutal so I keep thinking about that.

ReachTheBar79 · Post by **ReachTheBar79** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:06 am

I looked up past stats for MA on the NCBE site and it seems that in the past 60-63% of people in Feb pass. Oh great.

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:15 am

ReachTheBar79 wrote:I looked up past stats for MA on the NCBE site and it seems that in the past 60-63% of people in Feb pass. Oh great.

Sigh!!!

Dotson525 · Post by **Dotson525** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:59 am

waiting06 wrote:
Dotson525 wrote:This waiting game is the worse!!! After failing the bar, I thought I would be used to this. However, this time it's worse. I keep going over the essays. Even looking at the notes I wrote. After the past exams I immediately felt like I failed. This time I really just don't know. I feel like I couldn't deal with another failure. It's been rough keeping it to myself. The comments posted on this forum are very encouraging though. Thanks! Best of luck to all!!!
I am right there with you.. At this point I really really want this to be over. When they post the stats I will kinda sorta what my chances are because this is not my 1st or 2nd time.. My problems with the essays are the way they are graded.. You truly never know how you will do on them.. it is in the hands of the grader. I am just hoping that I was able to raise my mbe score. I felt decent in the am but my pm was brutal so I keep thinking about that.

The pm for the MBE and essays were rough for me as well. I struggled with my MBE score. However, when I was able to raise my MBE score (by 12 points), my essay score went down. It has been difficult working a full time job and studying as well. I'm so afraid of failing by 5 or 10 points. I feel like I'm going nuts.

waiting06 · Post by **waiting06** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:10 pm

Dotson525 wrote:
waiting06 wrote:
Dotson525 wrote:This waiting game is the worse!!! After failing the bar, I thought I would be used to this. However, this time it's worse. I keep going over the essays. Even looking at the notes I wrote. After the past exams I immediately felt like I failed. This time I really just don't know. I feel like I couldn't deal with another failure. It's been rough keeping it to myself. The comments posted on this forum are very encouraging though. Thanks! Best of luck to all!!!
I am right there with you.. At this point I really really want this to be over. When they post the stats I will kinda sorta what my chances are because this is not my 1st or 2nd time.. My problems with the essays are the way they are graded.. You truly never know how you will do on them.. it is in the hands of the grader. I am just hoping that I was able to raise my mbe score. I felt decent in the am but my pm was brutal so I keep thinking about that.
The pm for the MBE and essays were rough for me as well. I struggled with my MBE score. However, when I was able to raise my MBE score (by 12 points), my essay score went down. It has been difficult working a full time job and studying as well. I'm so afraid of failing by 5 or 10 points. I feel like I'm going nuts.

Yup. When my essays scores reached 148 my mbe score went down by over 10.. I cant explain it. I also work full time and at that time was at a firm that I hated which created another layer of stress. So I hope this is it for us!!!

Ohmygahh · Post by **Ohmygahh** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:03 pm

The way the essays are scored truly blows my mind. It has less to do with your actual performance than you'd think. The essays are scaled to the MBE. From my understanding, let's say you score a 40/70 possible points on the essays and that puts you in the 40th percentile for the essay portion. Your scaled essay score ends up being the average scaled MBE score of other test takers whoalso scored in the 40th percentile on the essays. So let's say the average MBE score for people who scored in the 40th percentile on the essays is 140, 140 would be your scaled essay score.

It's really convoluted and I'm not sure I've mastered articulating it to others lol, but someone explained it to me and it's also on the BBE's website. It's really stupid.

ReachTheBar79 · Post by **ReachTheBar79** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:09 pm

Ohmygahh wrote:The way the essays are scored truly blows my mind. It has less to do with your actual performance than you'd think. The essays are scaled to the MBE. From my understanding, let's say you score a 40/70 possible points on the essays and that puts you in the 40th percentile for the essay portion. Your scaled essay score ends up being the average scaled MBE score of other test takers whoalso scored in the 40th percentile on the essays. So let's say the average MBE score for people who scored in the 40th percentile on the essays is 140, 140 would be your scaled essay score.

It's really convoluted and I'm not sure I've mastered articulating it to others lol, but someone explained it to me and it's also on the BBE's website. It's really stupid.

You explained it well. What I thought is that they grade everyone's essays. They have a pile for each score....a 1, a 2, a 7, etc. Then the highest essay score total is equal to the highest MBE score in the state. So if someone scores a 180 on the MBE, then anyone who scored a 7 received a 180 on the essay that they scored a 7 on. If the lowest MBE score is a 44, then a 0 essay is equal to a 44. I could be wrong though.

ReachTheBar79 · Post by **ReachTheBar79** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:33 pm

Update on the site: Letters were in fact sent today!!

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