NY Bar Feb Exam: Support Group Forum

[northwood]

Newbie question that I can't seem to find answer to: For the MPT and NYMC portion, is that lumped in with the other 2 essays so that you have to manage time on the MPT and NYMC together with the essays?

The NYMC is given in the AM session and the MPT is the third essay in the afternoon (its one of three, you can write it in whatever order you want). I think you get more time in the am because you have to write 3 essays AND do the NYMC ( like a half hour extra, I believe). You need to budget your time for the afternoon to accommodate the MPT


I must add, I do not know how the UBE exam (starting in July 2016) will account for the NYMC/ MPT

[Ineedhelpplease]

My studying has stalled big time - Just spent hours filling civil procedure critical pass flash cards with freers outline. Im at around 800 questions on adapitbar (71%- no answered civil procedure questions yet) and I have been reading through Seperac Master outlines but I don't know how I am going to remember any of that crap (Corporations and Wills kick my ass). I guess the plan is to do 50-100 questions aday from now on and outline essays.

[myrtlewinston]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

[Ineedhelpplease]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

Thanks. Cant wait until al of this is over

[NY_Sea]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

[Ineedhelpplease]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

Im kind of stressing so your words mean a lot ... any advice on essays. I have been reading seperac master outlines but I have only looked at like 2 essays. I was planning to just read a bunch of past essay questions, practice issue spotting and outlining answers then reading through sample answers.

[iwantmybar]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

Im kind of stressing so your words mean a lot ... any advice on essays. I have been reading seperac master outlines but I have only looked at like 2 essays. I was planning to just read a bunch of past essay questions, practice issue spotting and outlining answers then reading through sample answers.

I think you're doing good.

I'm a retake and my average is 70% on adaptibar (with only 20 civ pro questions answered )

[NY_Sea]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

Im kind of stressing so your words mean a lot ... any advice on essays. I have been reading seperac master outlines but I have only looked at like 2 essays. I was planning to just read a bunch of past essay questions, practice issue spotting and outlining answers then reading through sample answers.

For essays, just look at as many real BOLE essays and sample answers as you can... In my view, it serves three purposes. One, you just get practice in doing essays, which will help in the long run. Two, you get to see what types of answers they want... My problem is that I always drill down to the root issue and put that as my issue statement. The issue isn't necessarily "did the girlfriend have the right to consent and let the officer into the house?", but rather "Did the officer violate the 4th Amendment by entering without a warrant?" Three, You get exposed to the different fact patterns... There's only so many ways you can ask a Wills question. Then if you add in an Evidence aspect, there's even fewer ways.

[Ineedhelpplease]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

Im kind of stressing so your words mean a lot ... any advice on essays. I have been reading seperac master outlines but I have only looked at like 2 essays. I was planning to just read a bunch of past essay questions, practice issue spotting and outlining answers then reading through sample answers.

For essays, just look at as many real BOLE essays and sample answers as you can... In my view, it serves three purposes. One, you just get practice in doing essays, which will help in the long run. Two, you get to see what types of answers they want... My problem is that I always drill down to the root issue and put that as my issue statement. The issue isn't necessarily "did the girlfriend have the right to consent and let the officer into the house?", but rather "Did the officer violate the 4th Amendment by entering without a warrant?" Three, You get exposed to the different fact patterns... There's only so many ways you can ask a Wills question. Then if you add in an Evidence aspect, there's even fewer ways.

Thanks for the advice. I am going to try and go through as many as I can. Fingers crossed.

[stronitsing]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

Im kind of stressing so your words mean a lot ... any advice on essays. I have been reading seperac master outlines but I have only looked at like 2 essays. I was planning to just read a bunch of past essay questions, practice issue spotting and outlining answers then reading through sample answers.

For essays, just look at as many real BOLE essays and sample answers as you can... In my view, it serves three purposes. One, you just get practice in doing essays, which will help in the long run. Two, you get to see what types of answers they want... My problem is that I always drill down to the root issue and put that as my issue statement. The issue isn't necessarily "did the girlfriend have the right to consent and let the officer into the house?", but rather "Did the officer violate the 4th Amendment by entering without a warrant?" Three, You get exposed to the different fact patterns... There's only so many ways you can ask a Wills question. Then if you add in an Evidence aspect, there's even fewer ways.

Thanks for the advice. I am going to try and go through as many as I can. Fingers crossed.

don't get too bogged in practicing issue spotting. the essays rarely hide much. just make sure you have the basic format for essays down and know the law. The rest will come from that. Also for essays- learn the list of the 5 or so things that you must get notarized (acknowledged) under ny law. the list spans several subjects, one of which often pops up.

[Ineedhelpplease]

With 800 questions at 71%, you're doing well!

I was about to say! I didn't start even hitting the mid 60s until around that point... It'll only get better from here! You got this, Ineedhelp!

BTW, just for reference... You are doing way better than I was doing at that point (I started very early, so I'm up around 1700 questions now) and from 12/29-Now I'm averaging 79.5% (655 questions in that time), so you're going to be fine!

Im kind of stressing so your words mean a lot ... any advice on essays. I have been reading seperac master outlines but I have only looked at like 2 essays. I was planning to just read a bunch of past essay questions, practice issue spotting and outlining answers then reading through sample answers.

For essays, just look at as many real BOLE essays and sample answers as you can... In my view, it serves three purposes. One, you just get practice in doing essays, which will help in the long run. Two, you get to see what types of answers they want... My problem is that I always drill down to the root issue and put that as my issue statement. The issue isn't necessarily "did the girlfriend have the right to consent and let the officer into the house?", but rather "Did the officer violate the 4th Amendment by entering without a warrant?" Three, You get exposed to the different fact patterns... There's only so many ways you can ask a Wills question. Then if you add in an Evidence aspect, there's even fewer ways.

Thanks for the advice. I am going to try and go through as many as I can. Fingers crossed.

don't get too bogged in practicing issue spotting. the essays rarely hide much. just make sure you have the basic format for essays down and know the law. The rest will come from that. Also for essays- learn the list of the 5 or so things that you must get notarized (acknowledged) under ny law. the list spans several subjects, one of which often pops up.

Thanks. I am going to read as many as possible because my ability to recall information is not great. I hope seeing more answers will help.

If anybody has good tips to memorization, please feel free to share.

[NY_Sea]

Thanks. I am going to read as many as possible because my ability to recall information is not great. I hope seeing more answers will help.

If anybody has good tips to memorization, please feel free to share.

Jay-Z says in order to commit something to memory, you need to do it 18 times... Whether it's true or not is one thing, but I don't question Hov.

Seriously, though, repetition really does work for me... Usually a mix of repetition and putting the rule or doctrine into my own words.

[flashforward2]

I've been using the Finz Multistate method as the main source for my MBE practice. The questions are definitely kicking my butt. I don't plan to do Adaptibar. Is this a fatal mistake? Thanks in advance!

[Tritri]

I've been using the Finz Multistate method as the main source for my MBE practice. The questions are definitely kicking my butt. I don't plan to do Adaptibar. Is this a fatal mistake? Thanks in advance!

I believe one of my greatest mistake in July was getting too much information. I had Kaplan as a bar prep, then had the emmanuel book, then bought the lean sheet. That was just too much. I never managed to read all of the lean sheet, wasted a lot of time, and got confused. If you feel you're doing good with what you have right now, stick to it

[Ineedhelpplease]

Thanks. I am going to read as many as possible because my ability to recall information is not great. I hope seeing more answers will help.

If anybody has good tips to memorization, please feel free to share.

Jay-Z says in order to commit something to memory, you need to do it 18 times... Whether it's true or not is one thing, but I don't question Hov.

Seriously, though, repetition really does work for me... Usually a mix of repetition and putting the rule or doctrine into my own words.

That Hov reference actually made me feel alittle better (WWHD -- what would hov do).

Today's schedule: (1) Read Critical Pass Evidence Flashcards, (2) 50-60 Evidence questions on Adapitbar, (3) Read about 25 pages of Seperac Master Outline (4) Read through 2-3 essays.

Thats all I got. Plus watching Law and Order SVU on loop

[NY_Sea]

Just checking to see if everyone here is still with us... Haven't seen much action in this thread!

[iwantmybar]

Hey i have a question

In case of a topic related to a conflict of laws, which standard must be applied, the government interest approach (Babcock ? ) or the Neumeier one?

[NY_Sea]

Hey i have a question

In case of a topic related to a conflict of laws, which standard must be applied, the government interest approach (Babcock ? ) or the Neumeier one?

As far as I know (and I could be wrong)... Babcock is really just an interest analysis. It basically says that you need to look at the interest of the states involved and that you should really be applying the law of a state only if they have an interest in the case.

On the other hand, Neumeier is the specific analysis you use where the conflict is within a tort case. If I remember correctly... Look to see the domicile of the parties. If they both reside in the same state, use that state's law (unless that state's law is solely conduct regulating, then use the place of injury). If they're from different states, use the state where the injury occurred, unless that state doesn't have an interest in the outcome (this is where Babcock ties in)... Then use the law of a state that has an interest in the outcome.

[iwantmybar]

Hey i have a question

In case of a topic related to a conflict of laws, which standard must be applied, the government interest approach (Babcock ? ) or the Neumeier one?

As far as I know (and I could be wrong)... Babcock is really just an interest analysis. It basically says that you need to look at the interest of the states involved and that you should really be applying the law of a state only if they have an interest in the case.

On the other hand, Neumeier is the specific analysis you use where the conflict is within a tort case. If I remember correctly... Look to see the domicile of the parties. If they both reside in the same state, use that state's law (unless that state's law is solely conduct regulating, then use the place of injury). If they're from different states, use the state where the injury occurred, unless that state doesn't have an interest in the outcome (this is where Babcock ties in)... Then use the law of a state that has an interest in the outcome.

Oh I understand better, I didn't quite see the distinctions between the two. The explications on smart bar prep outline is confusing on this one.

Thanks it really helped me !

[Ineedhelpplease]

Anybody got any ideas for the essays... I have been reading seperac which has a ton of great info but I can't recall any of it. And I have been reading essays. Not even outlining just reading.

[gtg]

Anybody got any ideas for the essays... I have been reading seperac which has a ton of great info but I can't recall any of it. And I have been reading essays. Not even outlining just reading.

Going off of that, any predictions from the "doctors" of the profession? lol I can't find any.

[NY_Sea]

Anybody got any ideas for the essays... I have been reading seperac which has a ton of great info but I can't recall any of it. And I have been reading essays. Not even outlining just reading.

Not to be a dick, but maybe you're not retaining any of it because you're not interacting with it, just reading it... I never just read an essay. At the least I'm outlining it.

It can even be a really simple outline... But there needs to be some sort of interaction with the material if it's gonna stick.

[Ineedhelpplease]

Anybody got any ideas for the essays... I have been reading seperac which has a ton of great info but I can't recall any of it. And I have been reading essays. Not even outlining just reading.

Not to be a dick, but maybe you're not retaining any of it because you're not interacting with it, just reading it... I never just read an essay. At the least I'm outlining it.

It can even be a really simple outline... But there needs to be some sort of interaction with the material if it's gonna stick.

I get what your saying, I just think I have been MBE focused that now I'm figuring out how off I am with the essays. I think I will go back to doing a simple outline - got to trigger this recall.

On the bright side, reading past answers does let you see how some highly scored answers do not even answer the question sometimes. Just some thrown in "reasonableness", "reliable", "foreseeable", analysis, then conclusion.

[3Lmao]

I am a retaker and I am starting to get really nervous. I feel like I was so much further ahead at this point for the summer bar exam and I still failed (CA bar). I am having such a hard time keeping up with the Barbri schedule. Should I be stressing that I don't know the NY distinctions that well at this point?

[myrtlewinston]

Has anyone tried an Adaptibar lecture?