Penn Students Taking Questions Forum

[PennBull]

You'll find out in plenty of time before anybody's first interviews. Chillax yall

[whatsthat]

In the past, Rudovsky's class has met 3 days per week (which usually includes Friday morning) and the other evidence classes 2 days. He covers more topics from what I have heard of the other sections. Rudovsky was definitely one of my favorite professors at the law school. He usually wins whatever the favorite professor prize is called from the graduating class every other year, since you can't win it back-to-back years. He lets you know who is on call by email prior to class (about a day ahead, IIRC). He's a practitioner and has been teaching forever, so he brings a lot of real world experience. He is very civil-liberties leaning for what that's worth. The exam was half MC and half essay. I would recommend his class over the others if you have an interest in the subject matter or in criminal law work.

Ah, you're right, thanks, I missed the "F" on the spreadsheet. I don't really have that much interest in the class but it's one of the most recommended. Would it be bad to take evidence 3L year instead or do most take it 2L year?

I had Sanchirico for Fed Income Tax and he definitely knew his stuff... but didn't really know how to teach it. Lovely man who is very smart, but I have never been more lost in my life. Luckily everyone else was lost too so our exam grades evened out even though I literally made things up. I expected a C (or worse...), got a B+. I did not learn anything in that class unfortunately (which is sad because knowing something about tax in my current job would be helpful).

Thanks! Does anyone know anything about Shuldiner (any stories from friends, maybe?) I'm trying to decide whether to take Fed Income Tax this semester or next.

[Wholigan]

Ah, you're right, thanks, I missed the "F" on the spreadsheet. I don't really have that much interest in the class but it's one of the most recommended. Would it be bad to take evidence 3L year instead or do most take it 2L year?

I'm sure that's fine. The only reasons I can think of to take it 2L year would be to demonstrate interest in litigation or to learn evidence for a litigation related activity such as the criminal defense clinic or a mock trial competition. Although by 3L year you will probably be even less inclined to want to come to school at 9:00 on Friday mornings. I would guess that my class was about 2/3 2Ls, but there are people who take evidence as a 3L.

[SportsFan]

Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...

[PennBull]

Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...

The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

[whatsthat]

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Was just coming to ask if Penn was the school where you could trade interviews. How does that work? You just find someone and ask if they want to trade X for Y?
Also, is the likelihood of getting a slot from the opt-in waitlist based on where you ranked the firm initially? Missed a few in my top 15 I’d really like to get.

[PennBull]

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Was just coming to ask if Penn was the school where you could trade interviews. How does that work? You just find someone and ask if they want to trade X for Y?

You can either do it on your own and e-mail CPP or when the Classified section gets more active you'll see people willing to trade certain interviews wanting to acquire other ones.

Also, is the likelihood of getting a slot from the opt-in waitlist based on where you ranked the firm initially? Missed a few in my top 15 I’d really like to get.

I didn't get any. Consider them lost.

[whatsthat]

I didn't get any. Consider them lost.

Nooo

ok thanks. I will definitely check out that swapping thing.

[run26.2]

I didn't get any. Consider them lost.

Nooo

ok thanks. I will definitely check out that swapping thing.

You can show up early on the day of the interview and check the time-slot listings. Often, people cancel without trading their spots.

[europhile]

Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...

The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

I'm interested in learning the PennBull system. Will you still be at Penn this coming year? If so, a couple Yuenglings are on me if you are willing to teach me the system.

[PennBull]

I'm interested in learning the PennBull system. Will you still be at Penn this coming year? If so, a couple Yuenglings are on me if you are willing to teach me the system.

Ha by the time you'll be bidding I'll be studying for the bar and will happily help you because studying sounds miserable. It's nothing special. Just analyzing interview sizes and knowing where to put one firm over another.

[SportsFan]

Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...

The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Yeah it definitely does. I got 22 out of my first 23 (didn't get Mayer Brown at 7), nothing from 24 to 34, then just random ones. Mostly NYC, but also 6 Philly, 4 Wilmington, and 3 elsewhere. I'm pretty ecstatic.

[europhile]

Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...

The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Yeah it definitely does. I got 22 out of my first 23 (didn't get Mayer Brown at 7), nothing from 24 to 34, then just random ones. Mostly NYC, but also 6 Philly, 4 Wilmington, and 3 elsewhere. I'm pretty ecstatic.

Don't know you, but that is awesome. Good luck with interviews.

[PennBull]

Oh putting the Wilmington was pretty clutch of you. Nobody bids there but with your background it might look pretty good. Obviously we'd like to start in a Philly or a New York but interviews are interviews.

[SportsFan]

Oh putting the Wilmington was pretty clutch of you. Nobody bids there but with your background it might look pretty good. Obviously we'd like to start in a Philly or a New York but interviews are interviews.

Yeah, I bid them in the mid 40's (since they seemed more gettable than anything else I hadn't bid yet), figuring that I might get 1 or 2 interviews (not 4!). I took bankruptcy as one of my 1L electives, so I figure I have as good a chance as anyone else not from Delaware.

[Revolver066]

You'll find out in plenty of time before anybody's first interviews. Chillax yall

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[SportsFan]

I'm sure everyone got the email, but in case anyone missed it somehow, journals will be released next Friday-Sunday.

[PennBull]

I'm sure everyone got the email, but in case anyone missed it somehow, journals will be released next Friday-Sunday.

Right about when it should.

Hope everyone gets JBL, we are chill and sociable and our exec editors don't suck. My role is to take all the free booze in the office.

[SportsFan]

I'm sure everyone got the email, but in case anyone missed it somehow, journals will be released next Friday-Sunday.

Right about when it should.

Hope everyone gets JBL, we are chill and sociable and our exec editors don't suck. My role is to take all the free booze in the office.

I forget if I ranked them 2nd or 3rd, but you're making me wish I'd put them 1st.

[justicefishy]

I put JBL 2nd for me too. I really hope I get it. I also didn't rock as many interviews as SportsFan but I got 25, with 18 out of my top 20. Mostly DC and NYC, with a bit of Silicon Valley in there too. Plus 2 Philly and a Chicago. Which is weird.

[SportsFan]

If I took Bankruptcy as my 1L elective, is it worth it to take that Business Bankruptcy: Chapter 11 class (its Law 709). I'm interested in transactional law but I think that might just be too much bamkruptcy.

[PennBull]

If I took Bankruptcy as my 1L elective, is it worth it to take that Business Bankruptcy: Chapter 11 class (its Law 709). I'm interested in transactional law but I think that might just be too much bamkruptcy.

I heard good things about it, good prof if it's the same one

If you liked and/or did well in BK then it'll be easy/GPA booster

[SportsFan]

If I took Bankruptcy as my 1L elective, is it worth it to take that Business Bankruptcy: Chapter 11 class (its Law 709). I'm interested in transactional law but I think that might just be too much bamkruptcy.

I heard good things about it, good prof if it's the same one

If you liked and/or did well in BK then it'll be easy/GPA booster

Thanks. Maybe I will, still a bit undecided.

And I'm probably not gonna take it because it just sounds extremely boring, but why is Federal Income Tax so popular?

[PennBull]

And I'm probably not gonna take it because it just sounds extremely boring, but why is Federal Income Tax so popular?

bar exam (I think), lots of old outlines, somewhat useful in practice

I'm taking it because I have realized I fucking hate seminars (personal style, nothing against the classes/professors themselves) and I'd rather take classes that have old outlines rendering class optional

exams suck but I also suck at writing papers

[SportsFan]

And I'm probably not gonna take it because it just sounds extremely boring, but why is Federal Income Tax so popular?

bar exam (I think), lots of old outlines, somewhat useful in practice

I'm taking it because I have realized I fucking hate seminars (personal style, nothing against the classes/professors themselves) and I'd rather take classes that have old outlines rendering class optional

exams suck but I also suck at writing papers

Interesting, thanks. Maybe I'll take it next year during 3LOL.