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What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by DreamShake94 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:00 pm

The only instance where the separation is clear is an issue spotter, where the A+ answer has a paragraph talking about something an A answer doesn't even flag.

But other than that, it's hard to tell. Yet profs still presumably grade exams by awarding/deducting points, where the top exam in the class gets say 75pts/100. Then all the 70-73s get As, w/ just 1 or 2 A+s.

Would it be too uncouth to just ask the prof how she awards the extra 2pts that separates an A+ from the As?

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Re: What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by ymmv » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:06 pm

The difference is whatever keeps you up at night.

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Re: What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by thesealocust » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:09 pm

They'll just look at you funny. An A+ got either (1) the most points on the exam, or (2) was among a small number of exams that all got more points than all of the other exams.

It's curved. Points are awarded for analysis. Do more analysis. There is no objective difference, no perfect answer, and usually a theoretically unlimited number of points. The A+ exam may have missed points that the A exams got, but just picked up more elsewhere.

To give you one real - but admittedly extreme - example, from a real exam:

Receiving 22 points was enough for an A-. The second highest scoring exam received 45 points. The highest score was 63 points.

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Re: What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by Mack.Hambleton » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:37 pm

thesealocust wrote:They'll just look at you funny. An A+ got either (1) the most points on the exam, or (2) was among a small number of exams that all got more points than all of the other exams.

It's curved. Points are awarded for analysis. Do more analysis. There is no objective difference, no perfect answer, and usually a theoretically unlimited number of points. The A+ exam may have missed points that the A exams got, but just picked up more elsewhere.

To give you one real - but admittedly extreme - example, from a real exam:

Receiving 22 points was enough for an A-. The second highest scoring exam received 45 points. The highest score was 63 points.
This is why longer is generally better right

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Re: What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by thesealocust » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:45 pm

Yep. You can do plenty good with density though, there's hardly a 1-to-1 correlation of length and grade. And sometimes you have word limits, so you're actually better off making sure your writing is nimble but concise than you are mastering typeracer.

A while back, a professor posted data that showed basically no correlation between length and grade once you got past a very low/very short threshold (truly short exams correlated with poor performance)

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Re: What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:52 pm

DreamShake94 wrote:The only instance where the separation is clear is an issue spotter, where the A+ answer has a paragraph talking about something an A answer doesn't even flag.

But other than that, it's hard to tell. Yet profs still presumably grade exams by awarding/deducting points, where the top exam in the class gets say 75pts/100. Then all the 70-73s get As, w/ just 1 or 2 A+s.

Would it be too uncouth to just ask the prof how she awards the extra 2pts that separates an A+ from the As?
She'd probably just tell you that the A+ earned 2 more points. You'd probably have better luck asking what kind of answer earns a top grade in her class. Or just listening to thesealocust.

(For another perverse example, I know someone who got 95 out of 100 on a multiple choice final, which, placed on the curve, translated into a B.)

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Re: What's the difference between an A exam & an A+?

Post by rhododactylos » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:30 pm

Had a 1L professor who scored the class's lone A+ exam at 151/150 because the student spotted an issue the professor didn't even spot.

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