How much does WE actually help? Forum
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justcause6

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How much does WE actually help?
Assuming non IBD/MBB/PE office job, how much does it actually help in OCI? I've been hearing grades are all that matters, would a law student clarify on this?
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- guano

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
The general gist I got is that it gives you a leg up against someone with similar grades, but that's it. Grades are still king.
A stellar resume leveraged correctly can give you a leg up. For example, if you're an astronaut, try to network/massmail the head of the spacelaw practice group. If you impress them, they'll send your resume to HR, meaning you're at the top of the pile, rather than the bottom (more likely to be preselect for OCI, or to get a screener). After that, you're on your own
A stellar resume leveraged correctly can give you a leg up. For example, if you're an astronaut, try to network/massmail the head of the spacelaw practice group. If you impress them, they'll send your resume to HR, meaning you're at the top of the pile, rather than the bottom (more likely to be preselect for OCI, or to get a screener). After that, you're on your own
- bearsfan23

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
It can't hurt you, but I think the amount the it matters really depends on exactly what your work experience is and who you're interviewing with.
For the interviews I've had, 90% of the time has been spent talking about my pre-LS work, but I don't think this would be the case if I hadn't done something pretty unique.
Its probably not going to matter if a firm has a strict GPA cutoff, but it can definitely help you get a job
For the interviews I've had, 90% of the time has been spent talking about my pre-LS work, but I don't think this would be the case if I hadn't done something pretty unique.
Its probably not going to matter if a firm has a strict GPA cutoff, but it can definitely help you get a job
- jbagelboy

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
My 1L SA would never have happened without my pre-LS work experience. Now that I've worked at a firm, come OCI in august I doubt many people will look to my time in management consulting. Still, it's been very helpful generally and I certainly recommend some work experience before pursuing a JD to anyone.
- DELG

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
Uh no your full time experience will still matterjbagelboy wrote:My 1L SA would never have happened without my pre-LS work experience. Now that I've worked at a firm, come OCI in august I doubt many people will look to my time in management consulting. Still, it's been very helpful generally and I certainly recommend some work experience before pursuing a JD to anyone.
WE is huge it absolutely can be more valuable than grades depending on what the WE is
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- rayiner

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
IBD or MBB is a big deal, but you have to pitch it right. Corporate groups in NYC will care a lot more about it than lit groups in DC.
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justcause6

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
what if WE wasn't in IBD or MBB but in a normal office job with leadership and managerial experience?rayiner wrote:IBD or MBB is a big deal, but you have to pitch it right. Corporate groups in NYC will care a lot more about it than lit groups in DC.
- Pragmatic Gun

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
I'm curious too about this. It would be helpful to know.justcause6 wrote:what if WE wasn't in IBD or MBB but in a normal office job with leadership and managerial experience?rayiner wrote:IBD or MBB is a big deal, but you have to pitch it right. Corporate groups in NYC will care a lot more about it than lit groups in DC.
- Holly Golightly

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
It can definitely help depending on the job. I recently had an interview for a job I am definitely under qualified for, and they spent a lot of time asking me about my paralegal experience.justcause6 wrote:what if WE wasn't in IBD or MBB but in a normal office job with leadership and managerial experience?rayiner wrote:IBD or MBB is a big deal, but you have to pitch it right. Corporate groups in NYC will care a lot more about it than lit groups in DC.
- DELG

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
It is, of course, all about how you spin itjustcause6 wrote:what if WE wasn't in IBD or MBB but in a normal office job with leadership and managerial experience?rayiner wrote:IBD or MBB is a big deal, but you have to pitch it right. Corporate groups in NYC will care a lot more about it than lit groups in DC.
I know of people with unprestigious WE that they were able to spin as relevant who punched above their weight when it comes to recruiting
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Arij.Syed

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
This may be a dumb question but what does IBD and MBB stand for. I am starting law school this fall straight out of undergradI have been lucky enough to have been working at a small firm for 3 years. Will this help me during OCI, or will it not matter since it was a relatively small firm. The Senior partner at the firm I work at, used to work at Skadden, and Polk, Caldawader, and Taft. Will her recommendation with me a leg up for these firms?
- Mullens

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
IBD is "Investment Banking Division" i.e. investment banking. MBB is shorthand for McKinsey, Bain, and Boston Consulting firms i.e. elite consulting.Arij.Syed wrote:This may be a dumb question but what does IBD and MBB stand for. I am starting law school this fall straight out of undergradI have been lucky enough to have been working at a small firm for 3 years. Will this help me during OCI, or will it not matter since it was a relatively small firm. The Senior partner at the firm I work at, used to work at Skadden, and Polk, Caldawader, and Taft. Will her recommendation with me a leg up for these firms?
- jbagelboy

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
Whoa wtf you just named three different firms. Skadden Arps is one firm, Davis Polk is another, and Cadwalader is a third. You seem pretty out of the loop. Maybe take some time off?Arij.Syed wrote:This may be a dumb question but what does IBD and MBB stand for. I am starting law school this fall straight out of undergradI have been lucky enough to have been working at a small firm for 3 years. Will this help me during OCI, or will it not matter since it was a relatively small firm. The Senior partner at the firm I work at, used to work at Skadden, and Polk, Caldawader, and Taft. Will her recommendation with me a leg up for these firms?
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Arij.Syed

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Re: How much does WE actually help?
sorry I meant Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft.
- jbagelboy

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Its fine it was a joke lolArij.Syed wrote:sorry I meant Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft.
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