Renegotiating a renegotiated scholarship Forum

[Caesar Salad]

I posted this on the 'scholarship negotiations work' thread (or whatever it's called) and didn't get a response so I figured I'd start a thread and see if I'd get better results. I got into Seton Hall with a 25k scholarship and sent an email to renegotiate, resulting in an increase of 10k to bring it to 35k. That leaves me to pay 15k a year, something I would obviously rather not do. Does anyone have any experience with trying to negotiate a second time, after receiving a favorable result to an initial appeal. My parents are imploring me not to do this--they think I'll come off as greedy/ungrateful and potentially have my scholarship rescinded. They also think faculty members will hear about this and coming in I will be 'that guy' who tried to renegotiate after receiving that additional 10k. But I don't want that debt. Any and all help/annecdotes/experiences is greatly appreciated.

[hdunlop]

No idea odds of success, would guess they're low without new leverage, but LOL @ faculty gossiping negatively at a student trying to save money. They went to law school, too.

[MKC]

I think I asked for more money four or five times to get from 40% scholly to full ride at my current school. Keep asking until they say no, and then ask again. Preferably after obtaining an increase from someone else so you have something to work with.

[sublime]

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[Nucky]

What do you guys think about asking for more money after you've deposited? Any suggestions?

[MKC]

What do you guys think about asking for more money after you've deposited? Any suggestions?

After the first deposit?

Multiple deposits. Although asking for more money has no downside. Ever.

[Caesar Salad]

I think I asked for more money four or five times to get from 40% scholly to full ride at my current school. Keep asking until they say no, and then ask again. Preferably after obtaing an increase from someone else so you have something to work with.

This is heartening. Yeah, I don't have any new leverage to bring to the table so I don't realistically expect anything, but I want the bucks. As long as I don't have to worry about having my offer taken back--which judging by the consensus on this thread isn't a threat. Would you mind saying what school your current school is?

[MKC]

I think I asked for more money four or five times to get from 40% scholly to full ride at my current school. Keep asking until they say no, and then ask again. Preferably after obtaining an increase from someone else so you have something to work with.

To elaborate:

The full ride was not a result of negotiation and Merkin has no shame.


But yea, fuck it. Ask again. Worst they can say is no. And you literally never will have to see an adcomm in your life once you get to school if you don't want to.

Come on man. One time I don't get into all the specifics and you're going to give me shit. The point was that you can ask as many times as you want, and should. And requests got me from 60 to 90k, which isn't nothing.

[sublime]

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[MKC]

I was just playin man. I even agreed with you, if you didn't notice.

Yeah, I saw it. I knew were just fuckin' around, but I'm generally hyper-specific if possible because ambiguity is annoying. So, of course I went to law school.

[Caesar Salad]

Alright, I am going to go for it, I will report back with results. Additionally, does anyone see a problem with appealing scholarship stipulations? Mine are top 75% of the class or a 2.8 (Seton Hall's curve is set at 3.0). My parents (once again) were incredulous at this suggestion and think it will 1) piss people off again and/or 2) make the scholarship increase impossible.

[MKC]

Alright, I am going to go for it, I will report back with results. Additionally, does anyone see a problem with appealing scholarship stipulations? Mine are top 75% of the class or a 2.8 (Seton Hall's curve is set at 3.0). My parents (once again) were incredulous at this suggestion and think it will 1) piss people off again and/or 2) make the scholarship increase impossible.

You might want to read this.

If you look at the employment breakdown, Seton Hall's employment numbers are awful. 28% of their lawyer jobs are in state and local clerkships, which is more than the 27% they place in law firms.

[Caesar Salad]

You might want to read this.

If you look at the employment breakdown, Seton Hall's employment numbers are awful. 28% of their lawyer jobs are in state and local clerkships, which is more than the 27% they place in law firms.

*Shivers*

I have been on Law School Transparency and it did not look quite as bleak as this...this is certainly food for thought. Obviously this was based off of statistics from last year, but that info is certainly still relevant. According to what I see on LST Seton has 9.1% in big firms, 1% in federal clerkships, and an additional 7.1% in public sector. Though the public sector work is probably not something I am interested in, for some people this would certainly be a good outcome (of course it's a more nebulous category so who knows what percent of that 7.1% would really be considered 'good'). That number aside, 10% going big firm/fed clerkship isn't horrible in my mind--and certainly not something that I would consider a pipe dream. All of that being said, as regional schools go is this really a terrible option? I want to eventually live and work in New Jersey, I've never lived anywhere else (other than while at school), and at currently 70% scholarship would you still consider this to be an awful place to go to school? Seton Hall ranked 36th in last years Above the Law rankings, which I took to be pretty positive.