Camus and The Stranger Forum

[Kafkaesquire]

I just finished The Stranger for the first time. Has anyone else read the story? Do you have any comments on how it portrays society and the law?


Here, a fundamental quote shows that the prosecutor damns the criminal to death, not because of his crime, but because of his nonconformity to society:

"He stated that I had no place in a society whose fundamental rules I ignored and that I could not appeal to the same human heart whose elementary response I knew nothing of. […] 'For if in the course of what has been a long career I have had occasion to call for the death penalty, never as strong as today have I felt this painful duty made easier, lighter, clearer by the certain knowledge of a sacred imperative and by the horror I feel when I look into a man’s face and all I see is a monster.'"


The criminal does not see the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

[sinfiery]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.[/quote]*



*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L

[Kafkaesquire]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

*



*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L[/quote]

This has nothing to do with what I expect law school will be like. This is a question of opinion that just happens to involve the law, and so I asked what I believed was an appropriate community, both in interest and intelligence.

This is not meant to be anything more than an abstract discussion of the subject matter. I really don't give two shits about how inherently pertinent this is to law school or the legal profession.

P.S. Who the hell taught you to follow an endnote with a fucking colon?

[Cobretti]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

*



*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L

This has nothing to do with what I expect law school will be like. This is a question of opinion that just happens to involve the law, and so I asked what I believed was an appropriate community, both in interest and intelligence.

This is not meant to be anything more than an abstract discussion of the subject matter. I really don't give two shits about how inherently pertinent this is to law school or the legal profession.

P.S. Who the hell taught you to follow an endnote with a fucking colon?[/quote]
I like how civil your response was about the substance of his response, but the gloves came off when he crossed the line with that fucking colon

[stillwater]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

*



*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L

This has nothing to do with what I expect law school will be like. This is a question of opinion that just happens to involve the law, and so I asked what I believed was an appropriate community, both in interest and intelligence.

This is not meant to be anything more than an abstract discussion of the subject matter. I really don't give two shits about how inherently pertinent this is to law school or the legal profession.

P.S. Who the hell taught you to follow an endnote with a fucking colon?

I like how civil your response was about the substance of his response, but the gloves came off when he crossed the line with that fucking colon[/quote]

this thread is dumb. law school is a farce. the stranger is a serious work of literature; everything in law school lacks gravitas and depth.

[Balthy]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

*



*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L

This has nothing to do with what I expect law school will be like. This is a question of opinion that just happens to involve the law, and so I asked what I believed was an appropriate community, both in interest and intelligence.

This is not meant to be anything more than an abstract discussion of the subject matter. I really don't give two shits about how inherently pertinent this is to law school or the legal profession.

P.S. Who the hell taught you to follow an endnote with a fucking colon?

I like how civil your response was about the substance of his response, but the gloves came off when he crossed the line with that fucking colon[/quote]


LOL.

[NoodleyOne]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

*



*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L

This has nothing to do with what I expect law school will be like. This is a question of opinion that just happens to involve the law, and so I asked what I believed was an appropriate community, both in interest and intelligence.

This is not meant to be anything more than an abstract discussion of the subject matter. I really don't give two shits about how inherently pertinent this is to law school or the legal profession.

P.S. Who the hell taught you to follow an endnote with a fucking colon?

I like how civil your response was about the substance of his response, but the gloves came off when he crossed the line with that fucking colon[/quote]
Man's got to have a code.

[sinfiery]

Touche.

[sarahmargie]

I felt like Mersault's (sp?) problem was that he had no religion. But I think Camus's point was that his lack of religion was not a problem. I think that quote you posted is about the value of religion in people's lives, if there is any. France then was pretty Catholic, and I imagine Camus didn't like the Catholic focus on guilt.
Maybe you should also read "In the Penal Colony."
I like reading Camus, but his philosophy is too atheist for me.

On another note, why are there so many doucheclowns on this message board? What could be the purpose of piping in just to say you have nothing relevant to say?

[Yukos]

Ask a Law Student is by far the weirdest subforum on TLS, including the Lounge. Where do all these 0Ls wanting to discuss bizarre philosophy of law/law school questions come from?

[pupshaw]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

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*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L[/quote]

Actually OP's quote would have been right at home in my Crim class.

[whereskyle]

The stranger's lack of remorse gives the appearance that he is not the type of person, who can be expected to give credence to the rule of law in the future, so they kill him.

Pertinent legal questions: the attitude of a society toward incarceration and whether or not incarceration serves as rehabilitation and if so to what degree.

My own take: we have a lot of progress to make on pertinent legal question above.

[JamMasterJ]

Ask a Law Student is by far the weirdest subforum on TLS, including the Lounge. Where do all these 0Ls wanting to discuss bizarre philosophy of law/law school questions come from?

same as the kids who raise their hands during admitted students week

[stillwater]

I felt like Mersault's (sp?) problem was that he had no religion. But I think Camus's point was that his lack of religion was not a problem. I think that quote you posted is about the value of religion in people's lives, if there is any. France then was pretty Catholic, and I imagine Camus didn't like the Catholic focus on guilt.
Maybe you should also read "In the Penal Colony."
I like reading Camus, but his philosophy is too atheist for me.

On another note, why are there so many doucheclowns on this message board? What could be the purpose of piping in just to say you have nothing relevant to say?

awwwwwww, is that your opinion?

[sarahmargie]

I felt like Mersault's (sp?) problem was that he had no religion. But I think Camus's point was that his lack of religion was not a problem. I think that quote you posted is about the value of religion in people's lives, if there is any. France then was pretty Catholic, and I imagine Camus didn't like the Catholic focus on guilt.
Maybe you should also read "In the Penal Colony."
I like reading Camus, but his philosophy is too atheist for me.

On another note, why are there so many doucheclowns on this message board? What could be the purpose of piping in just to say you have nothing relevant to say?

awwwwwww, is that your opinion?

You hurt my feelings. I feel bad about myself.

[apollo2015]

What you think law school will be like:

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

What law school is really like:
[quote="Kafkaesquire"]

The criminal does not ee the difference in showing remorse and not showing remorse for his crime, because either way he should be judged just as guilty. However, society looks upon his remorselessness as a crime in its own right worthy of punishment.

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*: I dunno shit, I'm just a 0L

Actually OP's quote would have been right at home in my Crim class.[/quote]

Yeah, my Crim Law class came to mind too.