What determines a firm's prestige? Forum

[RickyDnwhyc]

Is it just Vault rankings? NLJ250? Chambers? These are just surveys of associates aren't they?

I know certain firms would be considered more prestigious in certain markets and areas of the law such as litigation. But is there a credited way to determine a firms "overall" prestige?

How do you determine which names are the most prestigious, and does this necessarily mean they provide the most vast/diverse range of exit options?

[sparty99]

Are you a 0L? Who cares.

[20130312]

[RickyDnwhyc]

Sigh.

[PMan99]

Bonuses and PPP

[RickyDnwhyc]

Bonuses and PPP

So... Wachtell then >.<

[IAFG]

Is it just Vault rankings? NLJ250? Chambers? These are just surveys of associates aren't they?

I know certain firms would be considered more prestigious in certain markets and areas of the law such as litigation. But is there a credited way to determine a firms "overall" prestige?

Gosh, if only USNWR would develop a set of metrics and definitive list for you, so you could know exactly who you're better than and who is better than you.

How do you determine which names are the most prestigious, and does this necessarily mean they provide the most vast/diverse range of exit options?

Exit options are not as mechanical as that.

[stillwater]

Seamless limits.

[RickyDnwhyc]

Is it just Vault rankings? NLJ250? Chambers? These are just surveys of associates aren't they?

I know certain firms would be considered more prestigious in certain markets and areas of the law such as litigation. But is there a credited way to determine a firms "overall" prestige?

Gosh, if only USNWR would develop a set of metrics and definitive list for you, so you could know exactly who you're better than and who is better than you.

How do you determine which names are the most prestigious, and does this necessarily mean they provide the most vast/diverse range of exit options?

Exit options are not as mechanical as that.

Haha I guess I set myself up for that one.

I just have this hypothetical situation in my head, where you're deciding between two firms, all other things being equal (such as salary, fit, location, etc), how would you go about deciding which firm name will take you farther? PPP seems to make sense as a criterion.

[IAFG]

Haha I guess I set myself up for that one.

I just have this hypothetical situation in my head, where you're deciding between two firms, all other things being equal (such as salary, fit, location, etc), how would you go about deciding which firm name will take you farther? PPP seems to make sense as a criterion.

Well sure, it makes sense... if you're a partner. What do you want as an associate? Good reputation, sure, but for some reason law students seem to think there should be a rigid ordinal list of reputation, and have such a hard time accepting that lots of firms are one another's peers. Good training and for the firm to invest in you. Not sweat-shoppy. A personality fit. Bonuses.

[PMan99]

Is it just Vault rankings? NLJ250? Chambers? These are just surveys of associates aren't they?

I know certain firms would be considered more prestigious in certain markets and areas of the law such as litigation. But is there a credited way to determine a firms "overall" prestige?

Gosh, if only USNWR would develop a set of metrics and definitive list for you, so you could know exactly who you're better than and who is better than you.

How do you determine which names are the most prestigious, and does this necessarily mean they provide the most vast/diverse range of exit options?

Exit options are not as mechanical as that.

Haha I guess I set myself up for that one.

I just have this hypothetical situation in my head, where you're deciding between two firms, all other things being equal (such as salary, fit, location, etc), how would you go about deciding which firm name will take you farther? PPP seems to make sense as a criterion.

Practice group strength

[LawIdiot86]

Is it just Vault rankings? NLJ250? Chambers? These are just surveys of associates aren't they?

I know certain firms would be considered more prestigious in certain markets and areas of the law such as litigation. But is there a credited way to determine a firms "overall" prestige?

Gosh, if only USNWR would develop a set of metrics and definitive list for you, so you could know exactly who you're better than and who is better than you.

How do you determine which names are the most prestigious, and does this necessarily mean they provide the most vast/diverse range of exit options?

Exit options are not as mechanical as that.

Haha I guess I set myself up for that one.

I just have this hypothetical situation in my head, where you're deciding between two firms, all other things being equal (such as salary, fit, location, etc), how would you go about deciding which firm name will take you farther? PPP seems to make sense as a criterion.

Practice group strength

I agree. Every firms has a list of the 40 practice groups they "specialize" in, but if you're a government contracts lawyer, being at a firm everyone thinks of for its government contracts practice matters a lot more than its Vault ranking.

[RickyDnwhyc]

Practice group strength

I agree. Every firms has a list of the 40 practice groups they "specialize" in, but if you're a government contracts lawyer, being at a firm everyone thinks of for its government contracts practice matters a lot more than its Vault ranking

I was going to say that I meant to include that in "all things being equal", but this hypothetical is slowing becoming too unlikely to even merit consideration.

[bk1]

OP: Read the forum rules before posting. The Legal Employment forum is not for 0Ls. This thread has been moved.

[RickyDnwhyc]

Sorry 'bout that, thanks for the move

[poloshark]

Vault
LS hall chatter
ATL
(Not srs)
(Semi srs)
(100% srs for >1/2 T14ers i bet)

[RickyDnwhyc]

^ Makes sense, but what is ATL?

[20130312]

^ Makes sense, but what is ATL?

Do you even law?

[RickyDnwhyc]

I didn't think it held so much influence.