Columbia students taking questions Forum

[packer_22]

How competitive are the clinics to get into? They all look fairly small? What kinds of things can help you distinguish yourself in order to be selected, for, say, the Adolescent Representation Clinic, or the Mass Incarceration Clinic?

[TheoO]

Hey, has anyone here taken Merritt for SecReg? Any pointers? Also, looking for outlines.

[Tiago Splitter]

Hey, has anyone here taken Merritt for SecReg? Any pointers? Also, looking for outlines.

Merritt Fox? It won't be a pleasant experience, especially at the beginning when you dig into the rules. But it gets better after it switches back to the more standard case method.

[MCFC]

Not Fox or even CLS, so use caution, but someone posted a SecReg outline and charts here that looked pretty solid to me. http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &p=9004288

[Tiago Splitter]

Happy to send my outline to anyone if you send me a PM.

[TheoO]

Also, whats the tcr hornbook for the class? I want to do well in this class... for some reason.

[Tiago Splitter]

Also, whats the tcr hornbook for the class? I want to do well in this class... for some reason.

I used the E&E like I did for most other classes and it worked fine but I don't think it was uniquely amazing or anything.

[TheoO]

God damn it. I want to go to the 1L receptions so bad.... the Sulcrom one is at a wine bar...

[Nebby]

God damn it. I want to go to the 1L receptions so bad.... the Sulcrom one is at a wine bar...

Lighten you up with booze before they suck your soul. Pretty good strategy

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

God damn it. I want to go to the 1L receptions so bad.... the Sulcrom one is at a wine bar...

After you spend 40 years with lawyers, you're going to wonder why ANY of it was voluntary.

[RSN]

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

[almondjoy]

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

Lots of benefits imo. 1) networking. You never know, may lead to a pre-EIP callback if you hit it off with a partner and keep in touch throughout this semester and the summer. 2) gives you an answer to the inevitable "why this firm" question at EIP. 3) let's you practice shooting the shit with attorneys, which is also an essential EIP tool.

[John_Luther1989]

Pre-EIP interviews are becoming significantly more common. Firms love it and it gives students a few bites at the apple. People were rolling in and out of my firm starting in late June, and I've spoken to a significant number of current 2Ls/3Ls who went into EIP with at least 1 offer in the bag.

Go to recruiting events at least to have your name on the attendance sheet. Recruiters keep track and will be more responsive to you in the summer if you showed an interest during the semester. Also, if you can connect with someone on a personal level (Partner isn't necessary; I spoke mostly to younger people), its a lot easier to get brought in early.

[Nebby]

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

Lots of benefits imo. 1) networking. You never know, may lead to a pre-EIP callback if you hit it off with a partner and keep in touch throughout this semester and the summer. 2) gives you an answer to the inevitable "why this firm" question at EIP. 3) let's you practice shooting the shit with attorneys, which is also an essential EIP tool.

All of this. Also, don't drink too much. Like just keep it at two drinks.

[jbagelboy]

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

Lots of benefits imo. 1) networking. You never know, may lead to a pre-EIP callback if you hit it off with a partner and keep in touch throughout this semester and the summer. 2) gives you an answer to the inevitable "why this firm" question at EIP. 3) let's you practice shooting the shit with attorneys, which is also an essential EIP tool.

All of this. Also, don't drink too much. Like just keep it at two drinks.

Lol. Two drinks.

Everyone at Cleary's event was blasted my year. Actually same with S&C. Those Red Rooster Harlem mules. And Paul Weiss too, come to think of it. Great place to start the night.

But yea, two drinks is the safe call.

[ugg]

Really excited. I'll be at the one at the end of March.

[Nebby]

Really excited. I'll be at the one at the end of March.

Admitted students day?

[ugg]

Really excited. I'll be at the one at the end of March.

Admitted students day?

Yeah. Just skimmed and didn't realize you guys were talking about another alcohol related event.

[smaug]

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

The evening receptions are probably more valuable than the lunches.

I'd go to the evening ones but don't let it stress you out.

As an aside, I remember thinking they would be a waste because I was worried my grades would drop and I'd be below the cutoff for a lot of firms. Don't discount yourself now if your grades are bad (or are good but aren't stellar): you can see an improvement and the cutoff for most firms is lower than you think.

i.e., don't self-sabotage; do go to the events

[kingpin101]

What's the dress code for firm events if they say "business casual"? Suit? Dress shirt and slacks?

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

It's a good test to see if you're aspie.

Hint: You are.

Do a fuckload of practice interviews.

[TheoO]

Several interviewers at EIP had a list of names of those who attended these events. Especially if they are small events, it might be worth it to go for at least a little bit, sign your name in, and then just leave if you don't feel like staying.

Don't think the large class firms will care though. Still, a good place to get talking points on the firm. You can also get the cards of attys and name drop them at the interviews.

That said, as a 1L with 4 classes this semester, make sure you know your priorities.

[TheoO]

What's the dress code for firm events if they say "business casual"? Suit? Dress shirt and slacks?

Just look presentable. Don't need a full suit. Business casual is fairly googleable.

[Nebby]

What's the dress code for firm events if they say "business casual"? Suit? Dress shirt and slacks?

Dress shirt and slacks. No tie or jacket.

[RSN]

Alright cool, thanks for the input. Will try to make a few of them. I'm guessing if no dress code in the invite, suit is TCR?