I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
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jivemonkey

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Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules 
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
If it were me, I would delay graduation a year and take super easy classes to try to get that 3.5 up as high as possible, while simultaneously studying my butt off for the LSAT.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
If that is not a financial possibility, than any kind of full-time WE is fine. Working for a non-profit would be fine and perhaps give you interesting material to write a PS about.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Anything at the ACLU is going to be really, really competitive. If you want to do PI after law school, work at a nonprofit that focuses on what you want to after law school, network a LOT + gain relevant experience. If you want to do firm work, I doubt which nonprofit you worked for would matter much.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
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jivemonkey

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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Thanks for the response. What do you think is the best way to go about this? Just google women's right non-profits in nyc and just apply there. Many smaller non-profits often don't have a formal process, do I just call them or shoot them an email?luxxe wrote:Anything at the ACLU is going to be really, really competitive. If you want to do PI after law school, work at a nonprofit that focuses on what you want to after law school, network a LOT + gain relevant experience. If you want to do firm work, I doubt which nonprofit you worked for would matter much.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
Also, as far as networking, I tried searching my alumni online, but didn't have any luck. Do you suggest any other ways to network and get a job at a nonprofit?
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
I'm in the do a little to pad the resume, but mostly relax camp. Once you start law school, any chance you have to take an extended period of time off (i.e. a year) is mostly gone. Take in some new experiences, do some traveling. Once you have a career (especially one that entails the time dedication that biglaw does) and then a family, your chances to do what you want to do is extremely limited.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Jesus I hope you come from money and aren't just delusional.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
If not, good luck finding any non-profit (let alone a name-brand like the ACLU) that is willing to pay you anything more than the bare minimum for living expenses for a shared 4-bedroom in upper Harlem.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
LOL. Hopefully not. I don't live too far away from the city and would just commute.Haymarket wrote:Jesus I hope you come from money and aren't just delusional.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
If not, good luck finding any non-profit (let alone a name-brand like the ACLU) that is willing to pay you anything more than the bare minimum for living expenses for a shared 4-bedroom in upper Harlem.
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jivemonkey

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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
I was trying to do something that would give me an edge in the admissions process? Am I looking at this the wrong way?MrPapagiorgio wrote:I'm in the do a little to pad the resume, but mostly relax camp. Once you start law school, any chance you have to take an extended period of time off (i.e. a year) is mostly gone. Take in some new experiences, do some traveling. Once you have a career (especially one that entails the time dedication that biglaw does) and then a family, your chances to do what you want to do is extremely limited.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely passionate about working at a non-profit.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
I'm pretty sure I'm going to finish up this May. Do you think that for the most part, it doesn't really matter which non-profit I work at? As long as it's something I believe in (or can write a good PS about). For example, ACLU vs a small relatively unknown one?emkay625 wrote:If it were me, I would delay graduation a year and take super easy classes to try to get that 3.5 up as high as possible, while simultaneously studying my butt off for the LSAT.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
If that is not a financial possibility, than any kind of full-time WE is fine. Working for a non-profit would be fine and perhaps give you interesting material to write a PS about.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Short of military service/peace corps, not much is going to give you anything more than a slight edge. Even then, 1 - 2 points more on your LSAT or .2 more on your GPA would be worth infinitely more.jivemonkey wrote:I was trying to do something that would give me an edge in the admissions process? Am I looking at this the wrong way?MrPapagiorgio wrote:I'm in the do a little to pad the resume, but mostly relax camp. Once you start law school, any chance you have to take an extended period of time off (i.e. a year) is mostly gone. Take in some new experiences, do some traveling. Once you have a career (especially one that entails the time dedication that biglaw does) and then a family, your chances to do what you want to do is extremely limited.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely passionate about working at a non-profit.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Agreed. It will not matter all that much. To be honest, I'd pick the one that a. you care about the most and b. allows you the most time to study for the LSATjivemonkey wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm going to finish up this May. Do you think that for the most part, it doesn't really matter which non-profit I work at? As long as it's something I believe in (or can write a good PS about). For example, ACLU vs a small relatively unknown one?emkay625 wrote:If it were me, I would delay graduation a year and take super easy classes to try to get that 3.5 up as high as possible, while simultaneously studying my butt off for the LSAT.jivemonkey wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new here so I'm sorry if I don't know all the rules
I'm a senior at a top 20 undergraduate school majoring in poli-sci. I should graduate with around a 3.5 and want to take a year off (maybe two) before applying to law school (aiming for top 14). I have a strong resume and have done many internships related to government and public policy. My plan currently is to work at a non-profit in NYC. Just started looking but I applied to the ACLU as a legal administrative assistant (anyone know how competitive this is?) I'm not sure where else to apply, are there certain types of non-profits I need to focus on? Maybe branch out into other sectors? My main concern is not finding a job to make money, rather bettering my chances for law school. Thanks so much!
If that is not a financial possibility, than any kind of full-time WE is fine. Working for a non-profit would be fine and perhaps give you interesting material to write a PS about.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Really? That's interesting. Didn't know that.emkay625 wrote:Short of military service/peace corps, not much is going to give you anything more than a slight edge. Even then, 1 - 2 points more on your LSAT or .2 more on your GPA would be worth infinitely more.jivemonkey wrote:I was trying to do something that would give me an edge in the admissions process? Am I looking at this the wrong way?MrPapagiorgio wrote:I'm in the do a little to pad the resume, but mostly relax camp. Once you start law school, any chance you have to take an extended period of time off (i.e. a year) is mostly gone. Take in some new experiences, do some traveling. Once you have a career (especially one that entails the time dedication that biglaw does) and then a family, your chances to do what you want to do is extremely limited.
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely passionate about working at a non-profit.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Beggars can't be choosers. Apply broadly, see what you get. Be picky after you get a couple offers, but not at the application stage.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Agreed. But I guess my question is how do I go about applying broadly? Just googling non-profits or is there another way?IAFG wrote:Beggars can't be choosers. Apply broadly, see what you get. Be picky after you get a couple offers, but not at the application stage.
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Indeed.com is one website that "compiles" job postings. There are probably others.jivemonkey wrote:Agreed. But I guess my question is how do I go about applying broadly? Just googling non-profits or is there another way?IAFG wrote:Beggars can't be choosers. Apply broadly, see what you get. Be picky after you get a couple offers, but not at the application stage.
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Haha, I want to do women's rights PI after lawl school, too. I've worked at a number of women's rights nonprofits.
Like other posters have said, it is much more likely that you are going to get an unpaid internship than an actual job, especially being a new college grad. Have you worked for/volunteered for any women's rights groups in the past? If not, I would set aside a few hours a week now to do that - it is going to make looking for a job/internship a lot easier if you have already displayed a commitment to a certain issue/have references that can speak to your dedication AND abilities.
Working for the ACLU would be great - it is, obviously, an amazing organization that would give you great connections in almost any progressive nonprofit you can think of. I don't totally agree with other posters in that any nonprofit will look the same. Showing a long-standing commitment to a certain issue is going to give you an advantage when applying for PI jobs after law school, will give you connections to people who work in nonprofits you want to work for after law school, and will give you a lot of insight into where you want to work after school. Getting a PI job after law school is a lot different than getting a big law job.
As for applying, send cover letters and resumes to nonprofits you want to work for - like other posters have said beggars can't be choosers, etc. Apply broadly, but there are dozens and dozens of women's rights nonprofits in NYC. You are going to get a lot more responses when looking for an unpaid internship vs. a paying job (if that gets you any at all).
As far as admissions, yes, +.1 on your GPA or 1-2 points on the LSAT will make a much bigger difference than any job.
Like other posters have said, it is much more likely that you are going to get an unpaid internship than an actual job, especially being a new college grad. Have you worked for/volunteered for any women's rights groups in the past? If not, I would set aside a few hours a week now to do that - it is going to make looking for a job/internship a lot easier if you have already displayed a commitment to a certain issue/have references that can speak to your dedication AND abilities.
Working for the ACLU would be great - it is, obviously, an amazing organization that would give you great connections in almost any progressive nonprofit you can think of. I don't totally agree with other posters in that any nonprofit will look the same. Showing a long-standing commitment to a certain issue is going to give you an advantage when applying for PI jobs after law school, will give you connections to people who work in nonprofits you want to work for after law school, and will give you a lot of insight into where you want to work after school. Getting a PI job after law school is a lot different than getting a big law job.
As for applying, send cover letters and resumes to nonprofits you want to work for - like other posters have said beggars can't be choosers, etc. Apply broadly, but there are dozens and dozens of women's rights nonprofits in NYC. You are going to get a lot more responses when looking for an unpaid internship vs. a paying job (if that gets you any at all).
As far as admissions, yes, +.1 on your GPA or 1-2 points on the LSAT will make a much bigger difference than any job.
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go here: http://www.idealist.org/jivemonkey wrote:Agreed. But I guess my question is how do I go about applying broadly? Just googling non-profits or is there another way?IAFG wrote:Beggars can't be choosers. Apply broadly, see what you get. Be picky after you get a couple offers, but not at the application stage.
also, what is your degree in/what are you qualified to do? (marketing, it, etc.)
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Re: Taking a year off after undergrad - What should I do?
Poli-sci so I'm not sure exactly what I'm to doemkay625 wrote:go here: http://www.idealist.org/jivemonkey wrote:Agreed. But I guess my question is how do I go about applying broadly? Just googling non-profits or is there another way?IAFG wrote:Beggars can't be choosers. Apply broadly, see what you get. Be picky after you get a couple offers, but not at the application stage.
also, what is your degree in/what are you qualified to do? (marketing, it, etc.)
I have had past internships and jobs in mostly administrative settings.
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Get the most physically demanding job you can get.
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