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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:18 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Any 2L's who were Sect 4 want to help me out by sending me some old outlines

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:21 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Any 2L's who were Sect 4 want to help me out by sending me some old outlines

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Finals aren't til Dec. LRW maybe bottom 25%.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:28 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Any 2L's who were Sect 4 want to help me out by sending me some old outlines

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Finals aren't til Dec. LRW maybe bottom 25%.
Do you regret not staying at your engineering job?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:31 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Any 2L's who were Sect 4 want to help me out by sending me some old outlines

Redish Civ Pro
Shapo
Stilt
Eigen

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DF - do you set the curve? At least top 25%?
Finals aren't til Dec. LRW maybe bottom 25%.
Do you regret not staying at your engineering job?
Nope. If I don't get a job I might regret it though.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:33 pm

Nope. If I don't get a job I might regret it though.
Have you had any luck so far in getting summer internships?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:34 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Nope. If I don't get a job I might regret it though.
Have you had any luck so far in getting summer internships?
You aren't supposed to send stuff to NALP firms til Dec 1.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:36 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
Nope. If I don't get a job I might regret it though.
Have you had any luck so far in getting summer internships?
You aren't supposed to send stuff to NALP firms til Dec 1.
Oh, sorry I meant last year. Aren't you a 2L?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:36 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
Nope. If I don't get a job I might regret it though.
Have you had any luck so far in getting summer internships?
You aren't supposed to send stuff to NALP firms til Dec 1.
Oh, sorry I meant last year. Aren't you a 2L?
No 1L.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:47 pm

No 1L.
Oh wow. It just seemed like you've been around here forever so I thought you were at least a 2L. Sorry.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by Dick Whitman » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:24 pm

rayiner wrote:
StupidQuestions wrote:How's the relationship between JD students and AJD students? In my searches for Northwestern around TLS, I saw some troubling comments about friction between JD and AJD students, or JD students and the administration. Is that still a big deal over there?
Nope.
Just today, out of the goodness of my heart, I lied and told Rayiner that GT's season wasn't over just because their starting QB broke his arm.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by rayiner » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:27 pm

Dick Whitman wrote:
rayiner wrote:
StupidQuestions wrote:How's the relationship between JD students and AJD students? In my searches for Northwestern around TLS, I saw some troubling comments about friction between JD and AJD students, or JD students and the administration. Is that still a big deal over there?
Nope.
Just today, out of the goodness of my heart, I lied and told Rayiner that GT's season wasn't over just because their starting QB broke his arm.
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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by to_the_point » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:23 pm

Does NU count internships as work experience? Also, how much harder is it applying to the JD/MBA program than just applying to the JD program?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:40 pm

I need to pick another elective.

Does anyone know how easy, evidence, environmental law, fourteenth amendment, economic analysis of the law, and Corporations at Kellogg are?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by rayiner » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:34 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I need to pick another elective.

Does anyone know how easy, evidence, environmental law, fourteenth amendment, economic analysis of the law, and Corporations at Kellogg are?
Kellogg has just A/B/C (no +/-) so don't take those classes 1L.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:10 pm

rayiner wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I need to pick another elective.

Does anyone know how easy, evidence, environmental law, fourteenth amendment, economic analysis of the law, and Corporations at Kellogg are?
Kellogg has just A/B/C (no +/-) so don't take those classes 1L.
Damn, VERY good to know. I was leaning towards Corp. I owe you a beer.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by Dick Whitman » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:48 pm

rayiner wrote: :cry:
I keed. I was no fan of Nesbitt. I think Washington will be better. Eventually.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by bmwhype2 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:02 pm

this question is aimed at those who are 3Ls or have graduated.

Why is the 3rd year law curriculum universally regarded as useless and irrelevant? To expand on that, Northwestern conceded and now has an AJD program.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by bmwhype2 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:23 pm

rayiner wrote:RE: Summer work. Most people I know are doing something. IMHO just taking classes looks bad, because it should be possible to at least get an RA or something. And yes, a lot of cooler jobs came in pretty late. Certain federal agencies were still doing interviews in late April!

- what is an RA?
- What recommendations would you give for someone to land a 1L (not 2L) SA or other internship position?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by Sauer Grapes » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:58 pm

bmwhype2 wrote:this question is aimed at those who are 3Ls or have graduated.

Why is the 3rd year law curriculum universally regarded as useless and irrelevant? To expand on that, Northwestern conceded and now has an AJD program.
The AJD program is only one less semester, and they take the same number of classes. I wouldn't say it really cuts off the third year so much as it cuts in half the first year.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by policestate1234 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:27 am

What's the deal with the Fred Bartlit Center for Trial Strategy? Do you know how students view it and do they teach you practical skills like memo writing and learning to take a depo?

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by policestate1234 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:32 am

policestate1234 wrote:What's the deal with the Fred Bartlit Center for Trial Strategy? Do you know how students view it and do they teach you practical skills like memo writing and learning to take a depo?
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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by isaiahnielsen » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:29 am

honestly: is this a good time to go to law school? i really believe that law is where i am meant to work, all the way down to my demeanor and my natural way of thinking. but i am getting completely freaked out by all the negative forecasting and horror stories that are going around about going to law school right now and then trying to work in the profession. the more research i do, the more it seems like i should wait awhile and just go get a paralegal certificate and work, as there seems to be much higher demand for paralegals (and much less debt) than for lawyers. my only concern with that is i already am a little older than median age, and if i wait a couple of years to see how the economy morphs, i will be 30 or 31 and just starting law school, which i feel may be a little old. curious how current law students feel about this issue.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:33 am

isaiahnielsen wrote:honestly: is this a good time to go to law school? i really believe that law is where i am meant to work, all the way down to my demeanor and my natural way of thinking. but i am getting completely freaked out by all the negative forecasting and horror stories that are going around about going to law school right now and then trying to work in the profession. the more research i do, the more it seems like i should wait awhile and just go get a paralegal certificate and work, as there seems to be much higher demand for paralegals (and much less debt) than for lawyers. my only concern with that is i already am a little older than median age, and if i wait a couple of years to see how the economy morphs, i will be 30 or 31 and just starting law school, which i feel may be a little old. curious how current law students feel about this issue.
Don't get a certificate just get a job, teh cert isn't necessary. 30 or 31 is not too old. I think HollyGL is 35.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by isaiahnielsen » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:54 am

Desert Fox wrote:
isaiahnielsen wrote:honestly: is this a good time to go to law school? i really believe that law is where i am meant to work, all the way down to my demeanor and my natural way of thinking. but i am getting completely freaked out by all the negative forecasting and horror stories that are going around about going to law school right now and then trying to work in the profession. the more research i do, the more it seems like i should wait awhile and just go get a paralegal certificate and work, as there seems to be much higher demand for paralegals (and much less debt) than for lawyers. my only concern with that is i already am a little older than median age, and if i wait a couple of years to see how the economy morphs, i will be 30 or 31 and just starting law school, which i feel may be a little old. curious how current law students feel about this issue.
Don't get a certificate just get a job, teh cert isn't necessary. 30 or 31 is not too old. I think HollyGL is 35.
well, even if i don't finish the certificate, i want to take some intro law classes as: 1) i have never taken any law classes, and i would like to have some more familiarity with the field than i currently do; 2) many firms are hesitant to hire me because i was actually a music major (which was not a well thought out major i might add) and so i feel with some legal classes behind me and the help of a career center, i may have a better chance of getting in to a firm; 3) paralegals often have a better chance of making more money than a legal secretary, which is usually what you are hired as if you don't have a certificate; 4) my GPA, which was already sort of low (because again, not a well thought out undergrad major) got knocked down even more by LSAC in the Academic Summary Report. So my hope is that by taking some classes at the community college, not only will i get some more knowledge about the field and also get a better reading of my aptitude for the it (besides just thinking i will make a good lawyer based on my personality), but also hopefully (I am waiting for LSAC to get back to me on this) if I do well in the intro classes, I can submit them to LSAC along with my other grades and possibly raise my GPA a bit, since they are still considered undergrad classes.

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Re: Northwestern 2L taking questions

Post by 09042014 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:16 am

isaiahnielsen wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
isaiahnielsen wrote:honestly: is this a good time to go to law school? i really believe that law is where i am meant to work, all the way down to my demeanor and my natural way of thinking. but i am getting completely freaked out by all the negative forecasting and horror stories that are going around about going to law school right now and then trying to work in the profession. the more research i do, the more it seems like i should wait awhile and just go get a paralegal certificate and work, as there seems to be much higher demand for paralegals (and much less debt) than for lawyers. my only concern with that is i already am a little older than median age, and if i wait a couple of years to see how the economy morphs, i will be 30 or 31 and just starting law school, which i feel may be a little old. curious how current law students feel about this issue.
Don't get a certificate just get a job, teh cert isn't necessary. 30 or 31 is not too old. I think HollyGL is 35.
well, even if i don't finish the certificate, i want to take some intro law classes as: 1) i have never taken any law classes, and i would like to have some more familiarity with the field than i currently do; 2) many firms are hesitant to hire me because i was actually a music major (which was not a well thought out major i might add) and so i feel with some legal classes behind me and the help of a career center, i may have a better chance of getting in to a firm; 3) paralegals often have a better chance of making more money than a legal secretary, which is usually what you are hired as if you don't have a certificate; 4) my GPA, which was already sort of low (because again, not a well thought out undergrad major) got knocked down even more by LSAC in the Academic Summary Report. So my hope is that by taking some classes at the community college, not only will i get some more knowledge about the field and also get a better reading of my aptitude for the it (besides just thinking i will make a good lawyer based on my personality), but also hopefully (I am waiting for LSAC to get back to me on this) if I do well in the intro classes, I can submit them to LSAC along with my other grades and possibly raise my GPA a bit, since they are still considered undergrad classes.
I've heard paralegal classes are nothing like law classes. Though I could see their writing class being somewhat relevant.

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