Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges Forum

[Man from Nantucket]

Heard kellogg co-hosted courses are on a C curve? Any truth to this?

Anyone know if this is true?

[Holly Golightly]

Serious question: is any secondary journal worth the effort? Figurative cost (time commitment, sweat equity, etc.) seems to outweigh the benefit (writing/blue booking improvements).

As part of the AJD/transfer wave of write-ons, results won't impact OCI, so the exercise seems even more fruitless.

If you have an interest in clerking or academia, do it. If not, meh. But a lot of the secondary journals also aren't that much work outside of writing a comment.

[Holly Golightly]

Heard kellogg co-hosted courses are on a C curve? Any truth to this?

Anyone know if this is true?

Pretty sure this was addressed a few pages ago.

[splitsplat]

Serious question: is any secondary journal worth the effort? Figurative cost (time commitment, sweat equity, etc.) seems to outweigh the benefit (writing/blue booking improvements).

As part of the AJD/transfer wave of write-ons, results won't impact OCI, so the exercise seems even more fruitless.

fall writing competition results get released in mid september. So while OCI screeners are over by then, you could still be doing callbacks at that time- in which case having journal might be the extra edge that lands you the offer.

[lhanvt13]

Heard kellogg co-hosted courses are on a C curve? Any truth to this?

Anyone know if this is true?

Pretty sure this was addressed a few pages ago.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... g#p5992443

[captainplanet]

Serious question: is any secondary journal worth the effort? Figurative cost (time commitment, sweat equity, etc.) seems to outweigh the benefit (writing/blue booking improvements).

As part of the AJD/transfer wave of write-ons, results won't impact OCI, so the exercise seems even more fruitless.

fall writing competition results get released in mid september. So while OCI screeners are over by then, you could still be doing callbacks at that time- in which case having journal might be the extra edge that lands you the offer.

I don't think that being on a secondary journal would really make a difference during the callback stage, unless it was a journal that was specifically related to the job. However, being on a journal is a good idea if you want to clerk.

[franklyscarlet]

I'm biased because I actually really like my secondary journal, but it's also a good way to get part of the writing requirement out of the way without having to get graded on what you write.

[rinkrat19]

My journal note was a lot of work, but I actually kind of enjoyed it, once I found a topic I could really get into. I ended up being pretty proud of the result, even if I didn't try and get it published anywhere.

Also consider what it will look like come 3L job hunt time if you strike out at OCI and don't have a journal or moot court on your resume.

The source and cite assignments were really not that bad.

[whereskyle]

so i was having a really good time at orientation, and then... cliff...

[Micdiddy]

so i was having a really good time at orientation, and then... cliff...

HAHAHA. Was it the honor code talk? Sorry man, Cliff is a cool guy though. Also, just be thankful you're not doing a scavenger hunt.

[bananasplit19]

so i was having a really good time at orientation, and then... cliff...

HAHAHA. Was it the honor code talk? Sorry man, Cliff is a cool guy though. Also, just be thankful you're not doing a scavenger hunt.

My scavenger hunt last year involved going to a law firm that, as it turned out, was unaware we were coming. We were denied entry, hung out awkwardly with the security guard in the ground floor lobby for a while, then eventually wandered to a nearby bar to get beers instead.

[whereskyle]

so i was having a really good time at orientation, and then... cliff...

HAHAHA. Was it the honor code talk? Sorry man, Cliff is a cool guy though. Also, just be thankful you're not doing a scavenger hunt.

My scavenger hunt last year involved going to a law firm that, as it turned out, was unaware we were coming. We were denied entry, hung out awkwardly with the security guard in the ground floor lobby for a while, then eventually wandered to a nearby bar to get beers instead.

i love this.

[tigress12]

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[Dr. Filth]

so i was having a really good time at orientation, and then... cliff...

HAHAHA. Was it the honor code talk? Sorry man, Cliff is a cool guy though. Also, just be thankful you're not doing a scavenger hunt.

My scavenger hunt last year involved going to a law firm that, as it turned out, was unaware we were coming. We were denied entry, hung out awkwardly with the security guard in the ground floor lobby for a while, then eventually wandered to a nearby bar to get beers instead.

Were we in the same group?

Nzelibe didn't really cold call for our class. He seems totally uninterested in the material. The only important thing to know is have really structured exam answers. It's going to seem like a joke but short, simple paragraphs for each issue. Go topic sentence. Rule sentence. Analysis. Conclusion. It feels ridiculous as you do it, but do it. I'm sure this will be preached at you when exams roll around, but seriously, just do it.

Edit: oh and I learned that class over three days thanks to the outline flips gave me. Nothing is that hard in his class.

[Holly Golightly]

I know people who did well on Nzelibe's exam by bolding the key words (offer, acceptance, etc.).

Yes, he's really that lazy.

[onionz]

so i was having a really good time at orientation, and then... cliff...

HAHAHA. Was it the honor code talk? Sorry man, Cliff is a cool guy though. Also, just be thankful you're not doing a scavenger hunt.

My scavenger hunt last year involved going to a law firm that, as it turned out, was unaware we were coming. We were denied entry, hung out awkwardly with the security guard in the ground floor lobby for a while, then eventually wandered to a nearby bar to get beers instead.

Were we in the same group?

Nzelibe didn't really cold call for our class. He seems totally uninterested in the material. The only important thing to know is have really structured exam answers. It's going to seem like a joke but short, simple paragraphs for each issue. Go topic sentence. Rule sentence. Analysis. Conclusion. It feels ridiculous as you do it, but do it. I'm sure this will be preached at you when exams roll around, but seriously, just do it.

Edit: oh and I learned that class over three days thanks to the outline flips gave me. Nothing is that hard in his class.

Re Nzelibe, I mostly agree with the above and will add he's great 1 on 1 and will spend a lot of time after class trying to explain things if you need it.

[Flips88]

Yeah, he basically told us that he gets really bored when grading exams so if you make it as simple as possible for him to read the same shit over and over, he'll reward you.

[Holly Golightly]

When I went over my exam with Nzelibe's, he flipped through it and went, "This is a really good exam, I don't know why you didn't get a higher grade!"

[Flips88]

When I went over my exam with Nzelibe's, he flipped through it and went, "This is a really good exam, I don't know why you didn't get a higher grade!"

I had that experience with my property prof. Taught me just to not go talk to the profs. They'll have no good reason for why you didn't get a higher grade.

[Dr. Filth]

When I went over my exam with nzelibe the only thing he said I did well was organization. He seemed kinda confused about giving me the grade he did.

[feralinfant]

I know people who did well on Nzelibe's exam by bolding the key words (offer, acceptance, etc.).

Yes, he's really that lazy.

see e.g., the NYU debacle

[Micdiddy]

I know people who did well on Nzelibe's exam by bolding the key words (offer, acceptance, etc.).

Yes, he's really that lazy.

see e.g., the NYU debacle

HAHAH YOU ITALICIZED THE COMMA AFTER "E.G." AND YOU'RE MISSING A COMMA AFTER "SEE" BWAHAHAHAHAHABWHAAHAH BWAHAHAHA.

[lhanvt13]

I know people who did well on Nzelibe's exam by bolding the key words (offer, acceptance, etc.).

Yes, he's really that lazy.

see e.g., the NYU debacle

HAHAH YOU ITALICIZED THE COMMA AFTER "E.G." AND YOU'RE MISSING A COMMA AFTER "SEE" BWAHAHAHAHAHABWHAAHAH BWAHAHAHA.

There's supposed to be a comma after "see"?

[Georgia Avenue]

Yeah, he basically told us that he gets really bored when grading exams so if you make it as simple as possible for him to read the same shit over and over, he'll reward you.

"If it looks good, it is good"

[lhanvt13]

Bye bye Kagan.