Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges Forum

[Georgia Avenue]

Is Con Crim Pro really as full of gunners as people say it is?

Jacobi gives everyone A-'s at least, unless you sexually harrass he.r

it sounds like there's a story behind this. maybe involving someone with a tattooed australians fetish

[LRGhost]

Is Con Crim Pro really as full of gunners as people say it is?

Jacobi gives everyone A-'s at least, unless you sexually harrass he.r

it sounds like there's a story behind this. maybe involving someone with a tattooed australians fetish

[rinkrat19]

Better to take Admin this term with Fischman, who apparently (according to the CTEs) curves even when below 40, or wait until Spring and take it with Speta, whose teaching style I enjoy, but whose class fills up?

Bump and also:

First Amendment
or
Ideas of First Amendment ?

and
Environmental Clinic
or
Criminal Defense Clinic?

[Holly Golightly]

Better to take Admin this term with Fischman, who apparently (according to the CTEs) curves even when below 40, or wait until Spring and take it with Speta, whose teaching style I enjoy, but whose class fills up?

Bump and also:

First Amendment
or
Ideas of First Amendment ?

and
Environmental Clinic
or
Criminal Defense Clinic?

First Amendment with DeSanto is one of the best classes NU offers.

[Charger]

I'm hoping to 3LOL. Fed Jur out of the question? Filling my schedule with something from that time block is best, but I'm not interested in anything else during that time.

[PBateman1]

Any thoughts on this schedule?

Business Associations - Litvak
Remedies - Lupo
Basic Federal Income Tax - Crane
1st Amendment - Kitrosser
Law Firm Mgmt & Econ - Lutz

Trying to avoid any classes that are particularly intense or graded harshly.

[Holly Golightly]

If the Lutz class is the one that used to be called Large Law Firms, I've heard it has the easiest exam ever, and as such the curve is INSANE.

[detlefschrempf1]

is taking antitrust without having taken BA going to be a problem at all?

No. I took antitrust and never took any other business-related class in law school.

Thanks. Has anybody else taken antitrust without BA?

[Micdiddy]

Any thoughts on this schedule?

Business Associations - Litvak
Remedies - Lupo
Basic Federal Income Tax - Crane
1st Amendment - Kitrosser
Law Firm Mgmt & Econ - Lutz

Trying to avoid any classes that are particularly intense or graded harshly.

Ba with Litvak is not particularly intense and the Final was the most straightforward final I took 1L year (like, front to back it was just exactly the questions you would expect).
I'll be in Remedies with you. Heard it was pretty easy and to just drop it if it's curved.

[Georgia Avenue]

There's not much overlap between Antitrust and BA. Doubt it should matter much at all.

[lhanvt13]

Whoever suggested the original pancake house, I love u

[rinkrat19]

Better to take Admin this term with Fischman, who apparently (according to the CTEs) curves even when below 40, or wait until Spring and take it with Speta, whose teaching style I enjoy, but whose class fills up?

Bump and also:

First Amendment
or
Ideas of First Amendment ?

and
Environmental Clinic
or
Criminal Defense Clinic?

First Amendment with DeSanto is one of the best classes NU offers.

1st Am is with Kitrosser
Ideas of 1st Am is with Koppelman

[cookiejar1]

If the Lutz class is the one that used to be called Large Law Firms, I've heard it has the easiest exam ever, and as such the curve is INSANE.

This is very accurate. The class was both the easiest and hardest class I took 1L year.

[detlefschrempf1]

There's not much overlap between Antitrust and BA. Doubt it should matter much at all.

Thanks!

[desichhori]

Incoming 1L here!! Thanks for allaying any fears I had about prepping for law school!

I have a few more questions. Do we get a 1-2 week study period before the Fall Semester examinations? I noticed Fall sem exams begin on Dec. 6th 2014.

Also, for Thanksgiving, do we get the whole week off or is it just from Thursday Nov. 26th 2014?

Thanks a lot!

[Georgia Avenue]

Incoming 1L here!! Thanks for allaying any fears I had about prepping for law school!

I have a few more questions. Do we get a 1-2 weeks study period before the Fall Semester examinations? I noticed Fall sem exams begin on Dec. 6th 2014.

Also, for Thanksgiving, do we get the whole week off or it just from Thursday Nov. 26th 2014?

Thanks a lot!

you'll get a "reading period" before exams which is basically Wed/Thu/Fri the week before.

Thanksgiving - technically you only get that Thurs/Fri off but I don't think I had a single class that Wednesday before (or if I did I skipped and the professor didn't give a shit).

[Dr. Filth]

I had one class that I was afraid to miss, but a lot of people missed

[desichhori]

Thanks! Generally do students go home during their 1L year for Thanksgiving or do they study for the 1L Fall Exams? I am debating between paying sky-high prices for Thanksgiving flight tickets or staying in Chicago and studying for Fall exams? Any thoughts? Seems like I can go home for a few weeks during Winter break? Is November better utilized sending out resumes for 1L Summer jobs? So many questions! Thanks in advance!

Incoming 1L here!! Thanks for allaying any fears I had about prepping for law school!

I have a few more questions. Do we get a 1-2 weeks study period before the Fall Semester examinations? I noticed Fall sem exams begin on Dec. 6th 2014.

Also, for Thanksgiving, do we get the whole week off or it just from Thursday Nov. 26th 2014?

Thanks a lot!

you'll get a "reading period" before exams which is basically Wed/Thu/Fri the week before.

Thanksgiving - technically you only get that Thurs/Fri off but I don't think I had a single class that Wednesday before (or if I did I skipped and the professor didn't give a shit).

[rinkrat19]

I don't know what the ratio is between people who stay in town for Thanksgiving and people who leave, but plenty of people do both. I think 1L year I left after classes on Wednesday, and last year I think I went to one Wednesday class in the morning and then left. It just depends on how much you want to go home, whether you want to pay for a plane ticket, and how comfortable you feel skipping class. But I don't think most profs care.

[GoCats56]

Thanks! Generally do students go home during their 1L year for Thanksgiving or do they study for the 1L Fall Exams? I am debating between paying sky-high prices for Thanksgiving flight tickets or staying in Chicago and studying for Fall exams? Any thoughts? Seems like I can go home for a few weeks during Winter break? Is November better utilized sending out resumes for 1L Summer jobs? So many questions! Thanks in advance!

Incoming 1L here!! Thanks for allaying any fears I had about prepping for law school!

I have a few more questions. Do we get a 1-2 weeks study period before the Fall Semester examinations? I noticed Fall sem exams begin on Dec. 6th 2014.

Also, for Thanksgiving, do we get the whole week off or it just from Thursday Nov. 26th 2014?

Thanks a lot!

you'll get a "reading period" before exams which is basically Wed/Thu/Fri the week before.

Thanksgiving - technically you only get that Thurs/Fri off but I don't think I had a single class that Wednesday before (or if I did I skipped and the professor didn't give a shit).

Thanksgiving break is too early to be sending applications for all but a few 1L summer jobs. See below post for NALP info I had completely forgotten Keep an eye on application deadlines as you do your research, but almost none of them want applications before you have 1st semester grades. None of the ones I applied to wanted something as early as thanksgiving break, but other people might have more insight into that.

As far as doing work over Thanksgiving break, it's going to depend entirely on what you've done so far that semester and what your study plan ends up being. Don't feel like you have to work for the sake of it. Lots of people use it as outline crunch time, and lots of people decide that spending their time decompressing with family is more important to them and their well-being. There's no right or wrong answer. Also, assuming your family isn't super-distracting, you can absolutely go home AND do work/study. Bring 1 or 2 books home and work on those outlines while you work on a beer and some leftovers.

[cookiejar1]

Just an FYI as per NALP guidelines 1Ls cannot apply for summer positions until December 1. You are, however, allowed to start considering your options and can meet with your career advisor starting November 1 (see http://www.nalp.org/pre-law_timetable).

If you want to gun for a 1L Summer Position I'd heavily recommend sending out your applications on Dec. 1 or just shortly thereafter. You will be applying before you get grades back, yes, but for some reason I feel like those who started early did substantially better than those who applied for 1L Summer Positions later. But who knows.

[crumpetsandtea]

Negotiation w/ Shapiro v. w/Gandert?

Shapiro would be better for my schedule and not wanting to DIE, but I hear Gandert is the better grader.

[09042014]

Negotiation w/ Shapiro v. w/Gandert?

Shapiro would be better for my schedule and not wanting to DIE, but I hear Gandert is the better grader.

Shapiro B'd my ass.

[crumpetsandtea]

Negotiation w/ Shapiro v. w/Gandert?

Shapiro would be better for my schedule and not wanting to DIE, but I hear Gandert is the better grader.

Shapiro B'd my ass.

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh. Gandert it is, then.

[desichhori]

Thanks! Generally do students go home during their 1L year for Thanksgiving or do they study for the 1L Fall Exams? I am debating between paying sky-high prices for Thanksgiving flight tickets or staying in Chicago and studying for Fall exams? Any thoughts? Seems like I can go home for a few weeks during Winter break? Is November better utilized sending out resumes for 1L Summer jobs? So many questions! Thanks in advance!

Incoming 1L here!! Thanks for allaying any fears I had about prepping for law school!

I have a few more questions. Do we get a 1-2 weeks study period before the Fall Semester examinations? I noticed Fall sem exams begin on Dec. 6th 2014.

Also, for Thanksgiving, do we get the whole week off or it just from Thursday Nov. 26th 2014?

Thanks a lot!

you'll get a "reading period" before exams which is basically Wed/Thu/Fri the week before.

Thanksgiving - technically you only get that Thurs/Fri off but I don't think I had a single class that Wednesday before (or if I did I skipped and the professor didn't give a shit).

Thanksgiving break is too early to be sending applications for all but a few 1L summer jobs. See below post for NALP info I had completely forgotten Keep an eye on application deadlines as you do your research, but almost none of them want applications before you have 1st semester grades. None of the ones I applied to wanted something as early as thanksgiving break, but other people might have more insight into that.

As far as doing work over Thanksgiving break, it's going to depend entirely on what you've done so far that semester and what your study plan ends up being. Don't feel like you have to work for the sake of it. Lots of people use it as outline crunch time, and lots of people decide that spending their time decompressing with family is more important to them and their well-being. There's no right or wrong answer. Also, assuming your family isn't super-distracting, you can absolutely go home AND do work/study. Bring 1 or 2 books home and work on those outlines while you work on a beer and some leftovers.

Once again, thanks a lot everyone! Your tips have been wonderful!

Do you all recommend getting E& E's for 1L classes? Any other books that are helpful in understanding the Prof's lectures? Is it better to rent the book or buy it? I mean, is it a good investment to buy it, i.e., do we really use it after the first semester?