Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges Forum

[bjsesq]

This is your weekly reminder that Ron Allen is a narcissistic toolbox. Thank you for your attention, and remember: deliver a little snark to his arrogant ass when you can to keep him at least somewhat honest.

Tell me where on this doll did Ron Allen touch you.

It certainly wasn't the heart.

[zugzwanger]

It also creates an arms race where students have to avoid classes with a risk of an A- in order to keep up with their grade-inflating brethren.

Yet we really don't know which ones those are. Every six months in this thread you see people warning people not to assume that tiny uncurved classes are automatic A grades.

I think Vulcan has it backwards. NU's curve rewards people who turn in one of the best exams in each of several classes, even if they get a random lower grade here and there. UVA's curve rewards people who consistently turn in an excellent exam, and never get a random lower grade.

How come -- you mean just because the curve is higher than one off grade won't make the GPA look horrible? I don't know UVA's curve

[rayiner]

It also creates an arms race where students have to avoid classes with a risk of an A- in order to keep up with their grade-inflating brethren.

Yet we really don't know which ones those are. Every six months in this thread you see people warning people not to assume that tiny uncurved classes are automatic A grades.

I think Vulcan has it backwards. NU's curve rewards people who turn in one of the best exams in each of several classes, even if they get a random lower grade here and there. UVA's curve rewards people who consistently turn in an excellent exam, and never get a random lower grade.

How come -- you mean just because the curve is higher than one off grade won't make the GPA look horrible? I don't know UVA's curve

UVA has no A+, although it's overall A range is similar. Compare two students over four classes. Student A's exams are top 5%, top 5%, top 10%, top 25%. Student B is top 12-15% in each class. At both places, student B would have a 4.0. At NU, student A would have a 4.08 (2 A+, A, A-), better than student B. At UVA, student A would have a 3.92, worse than student B.

[bananasplit19]

word on the street is OCS is burning the midnight oil trying to get the career data out to us before sunrise tomorrow

lol

Maybe if we're lucky we'll get it after OCI.

Asked my CSO about these last week. Got a response this morning saying they'll be up next week. Anyone want to put money on whether they beat the July 4th holiday?

[zugzwanger]

They'll probably release the data in tandem with the fireworks -- The Stars and Stripes Forever!

[d cooper]

Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?

[Aine]

Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?

Yes sir. In the basement of Levy Mayer.

Also, hi Bumi!

[splitmuch]

Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?

There's a fridge. And fridge thieving bandit

[Pokemon]

Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?

There's a fridge. And fridge thieving bandit

There is a 50% chance the bandit graduated...

[bdubs]

For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/

[bjsesq]

For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/

Awesome news.

[zugzwanger]

Yeah that's fantastic news -- good stuff!

[Flips88]

smartest person i encountered during law school by a mile.

[VulcanVulcanVulcan]

smartest person i encountered during law school by a mile.

Agreed.

[bricktemplar]

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[onionz]

Wait. Are these numbers for post-3L, or post-1L? I.e., if Coif is > 3.96 at graduation, does anyone have any idea what the top 20%, 10%, top 5%, etc., grades are after 1L year? (I know someone's posted a rough breakdown some pages back, but it seems like you guys are suggesting this 1L class has inflated even further...(!))

Those numbers are post 3L. The 1L curve is probably pretty similar to this:

4.00+ - top 3-5 people
3.85+ - top 10%
3.75+ - top 15%
3.65+ - top 25%
3.50+ - top 35%
3.30-3.40 - median
3.20 - 3.30 - slightly below median
3.00 - 3.20 - quite below median

I don't think the inflation growth they speak of goes to 1Ls as much. They haven't changed the curve for our doctrinal classes since then, so it can't have changed too much (indeed if you math it out and assume certain things about the correlation of top grades from one class to another, you arrive at roughly the same thing posted before).

The inflation comes from all the clinics, practicums and seminar classes that are A+ guaranteed.

[onionz]

For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/

Awesome news.

Is that 3 years in a row for Scalia? Do we have federalist society connections?

[bananasplit19]

Is that 3 years in a row for Scalia? Do we have federalist society connections?

Professor Steven G. Calabreezy-off-the-heezy-fo-sheezy (the G stands for Gangsta) co-founded FedSoc and was a Scalia clerk. Dunno how much of a role that plays, but probably doesn't hurt.

[Flips88]

For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/

Awesome news.

Is that 3 years in a row for Scalia? Do we have federalist society connections?

Professor Calabresi started it...

[Dr. Filth]

has anyone ever failed the judicial practicum thingy

[Micdiddy]

has anyone ever failed the judicial practicum thingy

First time for everything.

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

Not that it particularly matters, but any word on when the '14/'15 class schedules will be posted?

[Georgia Avenue]

has anyone ever gotten less than an A- in the judicial practicum thingy

ftfy

[franklyscarlet]

Not that it particularly matters, but any word on when the '14/'15 class schedules will be posted?

It was July last year. I'd like them to post, need to pick out my m-w only classes so I can start booking long weekend trips. 3Lol.

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

Not that it particularly matters, but any word on when the '14/'15 class schedules will be posted?

It was July last year. I'd like them to post, need to pick out my m-w only classes so I can start booking long weekend trips. 3Lol.

Gracias. That was my general concern, though I'm willing to do M-F classes- fully expecting my attendance will be...less than stellar.