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Re: Why hasn't the ABA considered limiting the number of incoming law students?

Post by Tiago Splitter » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:04 pm

lymenheimer wrote: Realizing this is from 2008, there were 23 schools (out of 195) with 1L attrition rates worse than 20%: http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... -ra-1.html

Could be a decent start to reform.
But remember the new rule is 20% not including transfers. So if 10% transfer out and another 19% get cut, you're still okay. Presumably the new rule only nails the absolute worst offenders, which is a good thing but perhaps not all that impactful.

I'm really curious to see how this impacts schools in California, where a bunch of them will have absolutely no shot at hitting 75% without a major change. I'm guessing we'll see a much easier CA bar exam in the near future.

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Re: Why hasn't the ABA considered limiting the number of incoming law students?

Post by lymenheimer » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:13 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
lymenheimer wrote: Realizing this is from 2008, there were 23 schools (out of 195) with 1L attrition rates worse than 20%: http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... -ra-1.html

Could be a decent start to reform.
But remember the new rule is 20% not including transfers. So if 10% transfer out and another 19% get cut, you're still okay. Presumably the new rule only nails the absolute worst offenders, which is a good thing but perhaps not all that impactful.

I'm really curious to see how this impacts schools in California, where a bunch of them will have absolutely no shot at hitting 75% without a major change. I'm guessing we'll see a much easier CA bar exam in the near future.
yea. I was trying to find a more comprehensive list but was too lazy to look further (or to compile my own list).

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Re: Why hasn't the ABA considered limiting the number of incoming law students?

Post by 84651846190 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:40 pm

The ABA works for law schools, law professors, and law deans, NOT law students or society as a whole. HTH.

NEVER become an ABA member, NEVER donate to them. In fact, fight their very existence, if you have the chance. They are terrible people.

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Re: Why hasn't the ABA considered limiting the number of incoming law students?

Post by reasonable_man » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:09 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:The ABA works for law schools, law professors, and law deans, NOT law students or society as a whole. HTH.

NEVER become an ABA member, NEVER donate to them. In fact, fight their very existence, if you have the chance. They are terrible people.
Amen. TITCR.

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Re: Why hasn't the ABA considered limiting the number of incoming law students?

Post by Catsinthebag » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:13 am

reasonable_man wrote:
lacrossebrother wrote:Ok I actually agree with all of that. I was just annoyed with the "I'm guessing you're not a lawyer" thing, since I've been a real lawyer for five months!! I'm glad you apologized. I actually like your posts normally too. Cheers, good night.
Welcome to the club brah. Get yourself a dickhead tar like mine so no one makes the mistake again in the future regarding your Lawya status.

Nice work on landing a job in a solid and growing practice area... L&E is exploding. Its a great area to be in right now. DOL is on a rampage.

First year is hard as hell. If you want some unsolicited advice, spend the next 18 months really focusing and spending way too much time lawyering. I lived at the office for the first two years and that lead to a lot of good things and allowed me to kill the early learning curve.

Ah, it's a beautiful thing to witness LawBros reunite under the banner of douchebaggery. Man, LAXBRO even landed a few solid jabs on the reasonable man, what with making the help the poor folks argument and whatnot. How admirable that was until, oh wait, he was just saying that because he was havin' a :( sad :( that the guy on the Interwebs insulted his legit law career, still so young it could die of SIDS any one of these nights.

But here's something interesting: it's not that pro se cases so rarely have merit, it's that they so rarely get to the merits of the case. Non-prisoner pro se litigants, for example, accounted for 8% of all federal cases filed in 2014. Justice.

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Re: Why hasn't the ABA considered limiting the number of incoming law students?

Post by krads153 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:19 pm

Doesn't the ABA get more money from admitted attorneys? Probably just $$$ reasons.

ABA should be like the AMA though and just restrict the number of schools....but of course, they don't care at all.

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