The fine students of Thomas M. Cooley Forum

[Vincent Vega]

Cooley brings it on themselves. Notice how we're not making fun of everyone who goes to a school outside of the T100. Just Cooley.

Other than the faux rankings, how does Cooley brings it on itself?

Jules Winnfield and Vincent Vega should be friends.

[Mattalones]

You guys are awful!

[darknightbegins]

Cooley gets shit on because it made its own ranking and put itself in the same category as some of the best law schools in the country. They don't have the worst numbers I've ever seen from a Law School, that award goes to Florida A&M. It is the fact that Cooley combines its own rankings with high tuition, low numbers and an outragous wash out rate for first year students is why people hate on Cooley so bad. It is in essence the perfect storm. At least Florida A&M doesn't charge their students an arm and a leg for the "education" they receive nor does Florida A&M claim to be something they are not.

[rww830872]

i do partially agree with james bond unfortunately, cooley kids did poorly as an undergrad AND on the LSAT and in whatever career they pursued. If they even had one of those traits, they wouldnt be going to cooley. even worse, they wouldnt be tricked by cooley into attending that joke of an institute.

although these students may find success later in their career, still doesnt change the fact they sucked in the past.

I might be attending Cooley next year on a full ride and I passed up admission at Hofstra to do it. I just can't convince myself that 150k+ debt would be wortha legal education. To pool an entire student body into a category of fuck ups is not reasonable. But I suppose if you need to shit on something without put much thought or effort into it then Cooley is a great candidate. Kudos

[Rocketman11]

i do partially agree with james bond unfortunately, cooley kids did poorly as an undergrad AND on the LSAT and in whatever career they pursued. If they even had one of those traits, they wouldnt be going to cooley. even worse, they wouldnt be tricked by cooley into attending that joke of an institute.

although these students may find success later in their career, still doesnt change the fact they sucked in the past.

I might be attending Cooley next year on a full ride and I passed up admission at Hofstra to do it. I just can't convince myself that 150k+ debt would be wortha legal education. To pool an entire student body into a category of fuck ups is not reasonable. But I suppose if you need to shit on something without put much thought or effort into it then Cooley is a great candidate. Kudos

That's the problem. If Hofstra (T2/T3 border hopper) @ sticker is the best you can do you should think hard about law school being the best decision for you. At Cooley you will graduate with no opportunities, and even a full ride at cooley will incure something like ~50k in debt just from COL. It's fiscally irresponsible to attend Cooley unless you have a guaranteed job lined up (daddy's firm or something).

[rww830872]

i do partially agree with james bond unfortunately, cooley kids did poorly as an undergrad AND on the LSAT and in whatever career they pursued. If they even had one of those traits, they wouldnt be going to cooley. even worse, they wouldnt be tricked by cooley into attending that joke of an institute.

although these students may find success later in their career, still doesnt change the fact they sucked in the past.

I might be attending Cooley next year on a full ride and I passed up admission at Hofstra to do it. I just can't convince myself that 150k+ debt would be wortha legal education. To pool an entire student body into a category of fuck ups is not reasonable. But I suppose if you need to shit on something without put much thought or effort into it then Cooley is a great candidate. Kudos

That's the problem. If Hofstra (T2/T3 border hopper) @ sticker is the best you can do you should think hard about law school being the best decision for you. At Cooley you will graduate with no opportunities, and even a full ride at cooley will incure something like ~50k in debt just from COL. It's fiscally irresponsible to attend Cooley unless you have a guaranteed job lined up (daddy's firm or something).

It was with a 10,000 scholly assuming I am in the top 40% and Hofstra jumped 14 places this year in the rankings and whats wrong with Hofstra? From everything I have heard it is a good school. I am not worried about my future employment as I know that with hardwork and determination I will be just fine

[Rocketman11]

I am not worried about my future employment as I know that with hardwork and determination I will be just fine

You do realize everyone at T4 schools like cooley says this to themselves right? "I'll just work hard, no one else in my class will work hard... all these unemployed lawyers from T1 schools just aren't working hard..."

Not trying to ruin your day but I'm trying to get you to think about it more than you have.

[bitlrc]

i do partially agree with james bond unfortunately, cooley kids did poorly as an undergrad AND on the LSAT and in whatever career they pursued. If they even had one of those traits, they wouldnt be going to cooley. even worse, they wouldnt be tricked by cooley into attending that joke of an institute.

although these students may find success later in their career, still doesnt change the fact they sucked in the past.

I might be attending Cooley next year on a full ride and I passed up admission at Hofstra to do it. I just can't convince myself that 150k+ debt would be wortha legal education. To pool an entire student body into a category of fuck ups is not reasonable. But I suppose if you need to shit on something without put much thought or effort into it then Cooley is a great candidate. Kudos

That's the problem. If Hofstra (T2/T3 border hopper) @ sticker is the best you can do you should think hard about law school being the best decision for you. At Cooley you will graduate with no opportunities, and even a full ride at cooley will incure something like ~50k in debt just from COL. It's fiscally irresponsible to attend Cooley unless you have a guaranteed job lined up (daddy's firm or something).

It was with a 10,000 scholly assuming I am in the top 40% and Hofstra jumped 14 places this year in the rankings and whats wrong with Hofstra? From everything I have heard it is a good school. I am not worried about my future employment as I know that with hardwork and determination I will be just fine

it wouldn't be a bad school if you picked it up and moved it to like...cleveland. i don't mean any disrespect, but when you're at best the 5th or 6th best school in that city alone, combined with the fact that you're going up against the top grads from harvard, yale, stanford, chicago, nw, cornell, BU, duke, gtown, penn, michigan, and basically every other prestigious school in the country, AND the most expensive COL in the country, AND high tuition even with a 10k/yr scholarship, you're not in a good position to succeed from the start.

your optimism is admirable, but probably misplaced

[sportslawyer]

Nonetheless, I actually have a friend that passed up on Duke Law to go to Cooley (full-ride).

People value different things for different reasons. Whatever the reason might be, good luck to everyone. Elite or not.

[Always Credited]

Nonetheless, I actually have a friend that passed up on Duke Law to go to Cooley (full-ride).

People value different things for different reasons. Whatever the reason might be, good luck to everyone. Elite or not.

1.) nice alt post.

2.) there's a difference between "elite/elitist" and "not retarded". I think a lot of people in this thread are using the two terms interchangeably.

[GettingReady2010]

All I'm saying is this, it's really unbecoming of people to ridicule others for which law schools they attend. Some of the people at Cooley probably didn't have the same opportunities that many on TLS had. And just because they probably didn't score as high on the LSAT or had an incredible GPA, it doesn't mean they're less deserving people, let alone law students. At the end of the day, you're ridiculing the students who attend Cooley on the basis of numbers; this is really sad based on the fact we're all a couple logic game or logical reasoning sections away from being where Cooley students are.

Law school is temporary. Class is permanent.

It's refreshing to hear from someone that is going to one of the best schools in the country but still manages to stay grounded. Some of the people on TLS that are going to top schools seem to be completely full of themselves. I think the mentality might be different in my city compared to extremely large cities, because where I'm from people do not measure their self-worth by the school they attend. I've really never seen anything like this before. Residents in my city obviously gun big time for the best schools, but if they don't get in, they don't feel like a worthless piece of crap. Furthermore, people in my area don't look to others that are going to top law schools as awe-inspiring. If you go to a top school, they will find it very impressive but that's about it. My perceptions could be way off. This has just been my impression.

Edit: "godlike" is a little extreme.

[Drummingreg]

All I'm saying is this, it's really unbecoming of people to ridicule others for which law schools they attend. Some of the people at Cooley probably didn't have the same opportunities that many on TLS had. And just because they probably didn't score as high on the LSAT or had an incredible GPA, it doesn't mean they're less deserving people, let alone law students. At the end of the day, you're ridiculing the students who attend Cooley on the basis of numbers; this is really sad based on the fact we're all a couple logic game or logical reasoning sections away from being where Cooley students are.

Law school is temporary. Class is permanent.

It's refreshing to hear from someone that is going to one of the best schools in the country but still manages to stay grounded. Some of the people on TLS that are going to top schools seem to be completely full of themselves. I think the mentality might be different in my city compared to extremely large cities, because where I'm from people do not measure their self-worth by the school they attend. I've really never seen anything like this before. Residents in my city obviously gun big time for the best schools, but if they don't get in, they don't feel like a worthless piece of crap. Furthermore, people in my area don't look to others that are going to top law schools as unique and godlike. If you go to a top school, they will find it very impressive but that's about it.

People in my area know what hypocrisy is. Also, they don't go on a website called "top-law-schools" expecting it to be filled with people who aren't prestige whores.

[Drummingreg]

Nonetheless, I actually have a friend that passed up on Duke Law to go to Cooley (full-ride).

People value different things for different reasons. Whatever the reason might be, good luck to everyone. Elite or not.

If this is true, you're a bad friend. There is a difference between passing up Duke for a full ride at UIUC and passing up Duke for a full ride at one of the worst law schools in arguably the most financially screwed state in the country.

[GettingReady2010]

All I'm saying is this, it's really unbecoming of people to ridicule others for which law schools they attend. Some of the people at Cooley probably didn't have the same opportunities that many on TLS had. And just because they probably didn't score as high on the LSAT or had an incredible GPA, it doesn't mean they're less deserving people, let alone law students. At the end of the day, you're ridiculing the students who attend Cooley on the basis of numbers; this is really sad based on the fact we're all a couple logic game or logical reasoning sections away from being where Cooley students are.

Law school is temporary. Class is permanent.

It's refreshing to hear from someone that is going to one of the best schools in the country but still manages to stay grounded. Some of the people on TLS that are going to top schools seem to be completely full of themselves. I think the mentality might be different in my city compared to extremely large cities, because where I'm from people do not measure their self-worth by the school they attend. I've really never seen anything like this before. Residents in my city obviously gun big time for the best schools, but if they don't get in, they don't feel like a worthless piece of crap. Furthermore, people in my area don't look to others that are going to top law schools as unique and godlike. If you go to a top school, they will find it very impressive but that's about it.

People in my area know what hypocrisy is. Also, they don't go on a website called "top-law-schools" expecting it to be filled with people who aren't prestige whores.

People in my area know what hypocrisy is.

Not sure what you mean by this. If you're suggesting that I'm being arrogant, I'm not. I'm pointing out an observation.

Also, they don't go on a website called "top-law-schools" expecting it to be filled with people who aren't prestige whores.

There are a bunch of people on here that aren't elitists. I was referring to a select group of people.

[dogmatic slumber]

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to attend CLS, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating other people with respect. I'm going to respect each and every law student, regardless of where they attend school.

It's just sad that many people on TLS seem to lack that compassion and respect for their peers on the basis of USNWR rankings.

I think sanctimony is the word for this. Let's translate it into plain English: "Now that I am a big person I will still respect the little people." Awww. How touching!

Too bad, because the shepherd line is one of my favorites and honestly had me giving Jules the benefit of the doubt for a while.

[dogmatic slumber]

lol his name is shady

The way it's pronounced it rhymes with caddy

This story just got less cool

Also I have to disagree with Bond here. Imagine being able to say, "Hey, I'm Shady. Rhymes with Caddy." Not only is that awesome, it also seems less derivative of Eminem. Win-win.

[GettingReady2010]

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to attend CLS, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating other people with respect. I'm going to respect each and every law student, regardless of where they attend school.

It's just sad that many people on TLS seem to lack that compassion and respect for their peers on the basis of USNWR rankings.

I think sanctimony is the word for this. Let's translate it into plain English: "Now that I am a big person I will still respect the little people." Awww. How touching!

Too bad, because the shepherd line is one of my favorites and honestly had me giving Jules the benefit of the doubt for a while.

I think you just illustrated his point.

[dogmatic slumber]

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to attend CLS, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating other people with respect. I'm going to respect each and every law student, regardless of where they attend school.

It's just sad that many people on TLS seem to lack that compassion and respect for their peers on the basis of USNWR rankings.

I think sanctimony is the word for this. Let's translate it into plain English: "Now that I am a big person I will still respect the little people." Awww. How touching!

Too bad, because the shepherd line is one of my favorites and honestly had me giving Jules the benefit of the doubt for a while.

I think you just illustrated his point.

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to have a smoking hot girlfriend, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating people who don't have smoking hot girlfriends with respect. I'm going to respect each and every dude, regardless of how ugly his girlfriend is.

[GettingReady2010]

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to attend CLS, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating other people with respect. I'm going to respect each and every law student, regardless of where they attend school.

It's just sad that many people on TLS seem to lack that compassion and respect for their peers on the basis of USNWR rankings.

I think sanctimony is the word for this. Let's translate it into plain English: "Now that I am a big person I will still respect the little people." Awww. How touching!

Too bad, because the shepherd line is one of my favorites and honestly had me giving Jules the benefit of the doubt for a while.

I think you just illustrated his point.

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to have a smoking hot girlfriend, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating people who don't have smoking hot girlfriends with respect. I'm going to respect each and every dude, regardless of how ugly his girlfriend is.

I can't tell if this an attempt at a very weak analogy or sarcasm.

[Drummingreg]

Not sure what you mean by this. If you're suggesting that I'm being arrogant, I'm not. I'm pointing out an observation.

The people in my town don't do _____ like these other people who ______ all the time...
Not arrogant at all...

There are a bunch of people on here that aren't elitists. I was referring to a select group of people.

Turn up your hyperbole settings on your computer.

[dogmatic slumber]

Just because I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to have a smoking hot girlfriend, it doesn't mean that I've lost my compassion and class in terms of treating people who don't have smoking hot girlfriends with respect. I'm going to respect each and every dude, regardless of how ugly his girlfriend is.

I can't tell if this an attempt at a very weak analogy or sarcasm.

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic in calling the analogy weak. Here, make your own analogy: substitute any obviously desirable thing for "smoking hot girlfriend," and negate that obviously desirable thing for the "regardless" part. Have sanctimony your way.

[GettingReady2010]

Not sure what you mean by this. If you're suggesting that I'm being arrogant, I'm not. I'm pointing out an observation.

The people in my town don't do _____ like these other people who ______ all the time...
Not arrogant at all...

There are a bunch of people on here that aren't elitists. I was referring to a select group of people.

Turn up your hyperbole settings on your computer.

Yep

[LoyolaLaw2012]

I am not worried about my future employment as I know that with hardwork and determination I will be just fine

You do realize everyone at T4 schools like cooley says this to themselves right? "I'll just work hard, no one else in my class will work hard... all these unemployed lawyers from T1 schools just aren't working hard..."

Not trying to ruin your day but I'm trying to get you to think about it more than you have.

Your picture is amazing.

[Rocketman11]

I am not worried about my future employment as I know that with hardwork and determination I will be just fine

You do realize everyone at T4 schools like cooley says this to themselves right? "I'll just work hard, no one else in my class will work hard... all these unemployed lawyers from T1 schools just aren't working hard..."

Not trying to ruin your day but I'm trying to get you to think about it more than you have.

Your picture is amazing.

A/S/L?

[whymeohgodno]

Nonetheless, I actually have a friend that passed up on Duke Law to go to Cooley (full-ride).

People value different things for different reasons. Whatever the reason might be, good luck to everyone. Elite or not.

Flame?