Stanford c/o 2017ers taking Questions! Forum

[koalacity]

What I like most? I honestly like just about everything at Stanford. It's an incredible place to be. I'm sure I'll feel even better about it once this round of exams are over. And about the workload- honestly, the work isn't terrible once you figure out how to be efficient. It's a lot of work, but it's, for the most part, interesting work (I highly recommend NOT doing a journal). If you're straight through from undergrad, yes, it might be a huge change because you don't nearly have as much free time, but if you've worked for a few years, or if you can keep perspective and a good attitude about things, you'll be fine.

What I dislike? I guess it takes me a 10 minute bike ride to get groceries. That's not so fun. Also, the politics here, as in, it's very very liberal - to a degree that it stifles debate and intellectual conversation, which is sad, but probably reality at most law schools.

Re: the bolded-I worked basically full-time during undergrad and took time off before law school, and I still find the workload (not just in terms of classes, but also in balancing other time-consuming things) challenging, so ymmv. I actually really miss working, which I didn't think would be the case. But I definitely agree that keeping perspective is key.

P.P.S. THE INTERNET IN MUNGER SUCKS FOR NO GOOD REASON. There I said it

So true

[Instinctive]

What do you like the most about SLS?

What do you dislike the most about SLS?

What I like most? I honestly like just about everything at Stanford. It's an incredible place to be. I'm sure I'll feel even better about it once this round of exams are over. And about the workload- honestly, the work isn't terrible once you figure out how to be efficient. It's a lot of work, but it's, for the most part, interesting work (I highly recommend NOT doing a journal). If you're straight through from undergrad, yes, it might be a huge change because you don't nearly have as much free time, but if you've worked for a few years, or if you can keep perspective and a good attitude about things, you'll be fine.

What I dislike? I guess it takes me a 10 minute bike ride to get groceries. That's not so fun. Also, the politics here, as in, it's very very liberal - to a degree that it stifles debate and intellectual conversation, which is sad, but probably reality at most law schools.

The politics part is super true. I want to disagree on the undergrad comp. I think it depends on your UG and what you did. I can make a reasonable argument that I was the number one student at my UG and there is sooooo much more free time here. Sure classes take up 2 hours outside of class rather then zero, but extracurricular load is dramatically lower here. I spent whole semesters without getting 8 hours of sleep a night or going to bed before midnight. Here? The nights I am not asleep by 11 are either thurs or fri and they aren't due to extracurriculars or classes, if you catch my drift.

Everyone is going to have a fairly unique experience. Here even more so, I think.

[Kimikho]

What do you like the most about SLS?

What do you dislike the most about SLS?

What I like most? I honestly like just about everything at Stanford. It's an incredible place to be. I'm sure I'll feel even better about it once this round of exams are over. And about the workload- honestly, the work isn't terrible once you figure out how to be efficient. It's a lot of work, but it's, for the most part, interesting work (I highly recommend NOT doing a journal). If you're straight through from undergrad, yes, it might be a huge change because you don't nearly have as much free time, but if you've worked for a few years, or if you can keep perspective and a good attitude about things, you'll be fine.

What I dislike? I guess it takes me a 10 minute bike ride to get groceries. That's not so fun. Also, the politics here, as in, it's very very liberal - to a degree that it stifles debate and intellectual conversation, which is sad, but probably reality at most law schools.

The politics part is super true. I want to disagree on the undergrad comp. I think it depends on your UG and what you did. I can make a reasonable argument that I was the number one student at my UG and there is sooooo much more free time here. Sure classes take up 2 hours outside of class rather then zero, but extracurricular load is dramatically lower here. I spent whole semesters without getting 8 hours of sleep a night or going to bed before midnight. Here? The nights I am not asleep by 11 are either thurs or fri and they aren't due to extracurriculars or classes, if you catch my drift.

Everyone is going to have a fairly unique experience. Here even more so, I think.

Yeah, I think most KJDs just might be a certain type of person, and that person may just demonstrate stress more outwardly than others but it doesn't mean they are any more/less stressed than others.

[Kimikho]

also scale of 1-10 how much do people not want to do civ pro right now

[koalacity]

also scale of 1-10 how much do people not want to do civ pro right now

11

[Instinctive]

also scale of 1-10 how much do people not want to do civ pro right now

11

What's CivPro?

[isaiah1992]

ehh....no motivation

P.S. no fucks given about identity

[banks]

What do you like the most about SLS?

What do you dislike the most about SLS?

What I like most? I honestly like just about everything at Stanford. It's an incredible place to be. I'm sure I'll feel even better about it once this round of exams are over. And about the workload- honestly, the work isn't terrible once you figure out how to be efficient. It's a lot of work, but it's, for the most part, interesting work (I highly recommend NOT doing a journal). If you're straight through from undergrad, yes, it might be a huge change because you don't nearly have as much free time, but if you've worked for a few years, or if you can keep perspective and a good attitude about things, you'll be fine.

What I dislike? I guess it takes me a 10 minute bike ride to get groceries. That's not so fun. Also, the politics here, as in, it's very very liberal - to a degree that it stifles debate and intellectual conversation, which is sad, but probably reality at most law schools.

The politics part is super true. I want to disagree on the undergrad comp. I think it depends on your UG and what you did. I can make a reasonable argument that I was the number one student at my UG and there is sooooo much more free time here. Sure classes take up 2 hours outside of class rather then zero, but extracurricular load is dramatically lower here. I spent whole semesters without getting 8 hours of sleep a night or going to bed before midnight. Here? The nights I am not asleep by 11 are either thurs or fri and they aren't due to extracurriculars or classes, if you catch my drift.

Everyone is going to have a fairly unique experience. Here even more so, I think.

And you aren't one of the gunners in the gunner section?

[Instinctive]

What do you like the most about SLS?

What do you dislike the most about SLS?

What I like most? I honestly like just about everything at Stanford. It's an incredible place to be. I'm sure I'll feel even better about it once this round of exams are over. And about the workload- honestly, the work isn't terrible once you figure out how to be efficient. It's a lot of work, but it's, for the most part, interesting work (I highly recommend NOT doing a journal). If you're straight through from undergrad, yes, it might be a huge change because you don't nearly have as much free time, but if you've worked for a few years, or if you can keep perspective and a good attitude about things, you'll be fine.

What I dislike? I guess it takes me a 10 minute bike ride to get groceries. That's not so fun. Also, the politics here, as in, it's very very liberal - to a degree that it stifles debate and intellectual conversation, which is sad, but probably reality at most law schools.

The politics part is super true. I want to disagree on the undergrad comp. I think it depends on your UG and what you did. I can make a reasonable argument that I was the number one student at my UG and there is sooooo much more free time here. Sure classes take up 2 hours outside of class rather then zero, but extracurricular load is dramatically lower here. I spent whole semesters without getting 8 hours of sleep a night or going to bed before midnight. Here? The nights I am not asleep by 11 are either thurs or fri and they aren't due to extracurriculars or classes, if you catch my drift.

Everyone is going to have a fairly unique experience. Here even more so, I think.

And you aren't one of the gunners in the gunner section?

I could be falling into a trap here, but I'll step up to the plate anyway: I'm the one who doesn't do all the reading and studies only on the day before each exam for 4-6 hours.

I'm still trying my best, I'm just not gonna devote my life to it. Chances are decent I'll get an H somewhere out of sheer arbitrary luck, and nobody's gonna fail.


Clearly, like Isaiah1992 (LMAO) I only care to a certain extent about who knows this is me.

[koalacity]

ehh....no motivation

P.S. no fucks given about identity

Also, why are the TLSers of SLS so heavily concentrated in one section?

[Instinctive]

ehh....no motivation

P.S. no fucks given about identity

Also, why are the TLSers of SLS (not that there's very many of us) so heavily concentrated in one section?

No idea. I know of at least one other who doesn't post anymore off the top of my head.

[isaiah1992]

Because the gunner section is all encompassing: class gunners, extracurricular gunners, TLS gunners, Netflix gunners, you name it, we got it

[Kimikho]

also scale of 1-10 how much do people not want to do civ pro right now

11

What's CivPro?

Something that someone else at the firm is going to have to know instead of me.

[Vincent]

I do think that section matters. I love my section and we are all really close, and it's really helped for the stress.

On the other hand, the fear of getting straight Ps is pretty significant, for me at least. At other schools, if you do median in each class you get median overall--but here, if you do that, you are at the bottom 10%. Like, the school can say all they want about the grading to employers/judges, but it's not like they don't know how to count.

P.S. fuck Ks though

P.P.S. THE INTERNET IN MUNGER SUCKS FOR NO GOOD REASON. There I said it

2L's keep telling me 1 H a quarter is median o.O

[Instinctive]

I do think that section matters. I love my section and we are all really close, and it's really helped for the stress.

On the other hand, the fear of getting straight Ps is pretty significant, for me at least. At other schools, if you do median in each class you get median overall--but here, if you do that, you are at the bottom 10%. Like, the school can say all they want about the grading to employers/judges, but it's not like they don't know how to count.

P.S. fuck Ks though

P.P.S. THE INTERNET IN MUNGER SUCKS FOR NO GOOD REASON. There I said it

2L's keep telling me 1 H a quarter is median o.O

The math backs that up. Someone in my section was discussing it before one of the exams. 30% H, 5 classes, means the average in a crapshoot is 1.5.

If you assume some people will cluster near the top because they're genius/study for 120+ hours a week at the end of the year/both, then the median is probably 1.

Made sense to me then, makes sense to me now.

[HankBashir]

Yah. 3-4 Hs (by the end of 1L) is median.

Also, you should always used wired in Munger. I pretty much only use wireless on my phone.

[WashingtonIrving]

2L's keep telling me 1 H a quarter is median o.O

The math backs that up. Someone in my section was discussing it before one of the exams. 30% H, 5 classes, means the average in a crapshoot is 1.5.

If you assume some people will cluster near the top because they're genius/study for 120+ hours a week at the end of the year/both, then the median is probably 1.

Made sense to me then, makes sense to me now.

Sounds suspect. You shouldn't trust law students with math.

[Instinctive]

2L's keep telling me 1 H a quarter is median o.O

The math backs that up. Someone in my section was discussing it before one of the exams. 30% H, 5 classes, means the average in a crapshoot is 1.5.

If you assume some people will cluster near the top because they're genius/study for 120+ hours a week at the end of the year/both, then the median is probably 1.

Made sense to me then, makes sense to me now.

Sounds suspect. You shouldn't trust law students with math.

Hahaha. I'll trust the ones with econ or math or physics advanced degrees already. Oh which there are way more than I expected.

[Kimikho]

Really appreciating stanford right now w/r/t my current civ pro preparedness

[Sls17]

The gunner section is, thank God, not representative of most of SLS. And even within the "gunner section" it's just ~3 or 4 people out of 30. Most sections have at least 1. So it goes.

Wholeheartedly agree with the aforementioned sentiment that law school should not take over your life. Some people will let it, but you just have to remind yourself that you are happier than those people and you wouldn't trade places with them, even for a transcript full of Hs.

So ready to P the hell out of civil procedure tomorrow!!

[isaiah1992]

The gunner section is, thank God, not representative of most of SLS. And even within the "gunner section" it's just ~3 or 4 people out of 30. Most sections have at least 1. So it goes.

Wholeheartedly agree with the aforementioned sentiment that law school should not take over your life. Some people will let it, but you just have to remind yourself that you are happier than those people and you wouldn't trade places with them, even for a transcript full of Hs.

So ready to P the hell out of civil procedure tomorrow!!

+1 was thinking about bringing some Gentleman Jack, but I think I'll save it for torts.

[Sls17]

+1 was thinking about bringing some Gentleman Jack, but I think I'll save it for torts.

PLEASE DO THIS

[Instinctive]

+1 was thinking about bringing some Gentleman Jack, but I think I'll save it for torts.

PLEASE DO THIS

But seriously though, I'll do a shot before the Torts final. And after. And many more that night. YMMV.



And Sls17 is right, 0Ls. This place is awesome. The gunner section is mostly great people and there are tons of awesome people in the rest of the school. I hang out even more with other law students than I did with other undergrads when I was in college. I'm really glad to be here. Don't let our annoyances and grievances put a damper on everything else that's amazing, just realize that it isn't always perfect all the time. I doubt anywhere is.

[koalacity]

Also, the 2Ls and 3Ls give out free shots of whiskey to the 1Ls studying in the library, so...that's a definite plus.

[NEdelton1987]

How hard is it to get on professors' consulting projects (the kind of work at the cutting edge of practice that pays many times more than the rate of a typical research assistant)?