Do you love/like law school? pls post reasons Forum

[Hipster but Athletic]

What the hell? In another thread it seemed like I was quite an oddity for enjoying law school. I'm happy that popular opinion has dramatically changed in the past few months. That or I'm doing some kind of error on the grounds that the thread was asking for people who liked law school.

I've enjoyed law school a great deal. It's a lot of fun to learn about the law and see how different principles and policies fit together in different ways.

It's really whomever gets the first punch in. TLS is an echo chamber.

[Orlandipo]

What the hell? In another thread it seemed like I was quite an oddity for enjoying law school. I'm happy that popular opinion has dramatically changed in the past few months. That or I'm doing some kind of error on the grounds that the thread was asking for people who liked law school.

I've enjoyed law school a great deal. It's a lot of fun to learn about the law and see how different principles and policies fit together in different ways.

Ya. Only reason I posted is because I didn't read the OP. He/she only wanted to hear positives this thread.

[raekaya]

I like the material. It's the job anxiety that makes law school suck sometimes.

Do you really feel that much job anxiety tho? I mean, you know you're going to be fine; fear about jobs is hardly the worst part for me. The knowledge that even after I get a job, I'll spend most of the first three years after law school paying off what I borrowed for tuition.. Well, there's absolutely nothing redeaming about that.

Yeah the debt part is pretty bad too. For some reason I've always been more afraid of falling through the cracks. I think the key is not to let it become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

More so than either debt or job prospects, I actually feel the most anxiety in law school regarding my self-worth based on my grades. Especially after first semester when you see people losing respect for those with subpar grades (passively excluding them from study groups, not taking anything they say seriously, talking behind their back etc.) You might think you'll never tell anyone your grades but it's easier said than done especially when friends start sharing theirs or even straight up ask you. Just be careful since if you tell one person your grades it's very unlike that it won't spread from there.

Keep in mind, the stuff I mention above is not done in spiteful ways and by no means only a law student thing, it's just the way humans are and I think you'd find it in any career.

This (grade anxiety) is actually one of the ONLY things I don't like about law school. Besides that, the classes are genuinely fun and interesting and I love the (semi) socratic method. I also really like everyone in my section, even the people I'm not that close with. Everyone is at least somewhat friends with each other.
Also, and this is really shallow, I love feeling like a big shot when I tell people what I'm doing/ where I go to school (I'm at a T-20 btw).

[jbagelboy]

I like the material. It's the job anxiety that makes law school suck sometimes.

Do you really feel that much job anxiety tho? I mean, you know you're going to be fine; fear about jobs is hardly the worst part for me. The knowledge that even after I get a job, I'll spend most of the first three years after law school paying off what I borrowed for tuition.. Well, there's absolutely nothing redeaming about that.

Yeah the debt part is pretty bad too. For some reason I've always been more afraid of falling through the cracks. I think the key is not to let it become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

More so than either debt or job prospects, I actually feel the most anxiety in law school regarding my self-worth based on my grades. Especially after first semester when you see people losing respect for those with subpar grades (passively excluding them from study groups, not taking anything they say seriously, talking behind their back etc.) You might think you'll never tell anyone your grades but it's easier said than done especially when friends start sharing theirs or even straight up ask you. Just be careful since if you tell one person your grades it's very unlike that it won't spread from there.

Keep in mind, the stuff I mention above is not done in spiteful ways and by no means only a law student thing, it's just the way humans are and I think you'd find it in any career.

This (grade anxiety) is actually one of the ONLY things I don't like about law school. Besides that, the classes are genuinely fun and interesting and I love the (semi) socratic method. I also really like everyone in my section, even the people I'm not that close with. Everyone is at least somewhat friends with each other.
Also, and this is really shallow, I love feeling like a big shot when I tell people what I'm doing/ where I go to school (I'm at a T-20 btw).

I didn't witness any of the bolded; it sounds really unfortunate. first, I hardly shared my grades with anyone.. but moreover, my study group only changed insofar as our sections were reassembled. The below median and top third folks kept studying with each other without interruption, even passive.

(then again, I didn't have a particularly gunnery study group lol)

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Also, and this is really shallow, I love feeling like a big shot when I tell people what I'm doing/ where I go to school (I'm at a T-20 btw).

Ironically this is why many people do not like law school.

[shifty_eyed]

I like being a student because of the free time. It's more fun than working, and I never made a lot of money, so living like a student isn't hard for me.

I don't like the classes. The case method is stupid, and I can't believe I wasted so much of my time studying bullshit that really doesn't matter. LRW was even worse.

I went to a small private university for undergrad for whatever it's worth, and I'm not below median in law school lol.

[raekaya]

I didn't witness any of the bolded; it sounds really unfortunate. first, I hardly shared my grades with anyone.. but moreover, my study group only changed insofar as our sections were reassembled. The below median and top third folks kept studying with each other without interruption, even passive.

(then again, I didn't have a particularly gunnery study group lol)

Yeah I didn't mean for that to come across as strong as it did. In reality it's much more subtle and complex a phenomena; a grade induced halo effect. Here are some specific examples:
1) A friend is complaining to you about a person they don't like. At some point during their rant, the disliked person's below-median gpa will inevitably be brought up as yet another character flaw or as a way to discredit the person.
2) People constantly comment on how smart, brilliant, genius, etc. the people with the high gpas are. Do you think they say the same about people with lower gpas? In general "smart" becomes synonymous with "high gpa."
3) Person with low gpa argues with someone about substantive law in a class or what cases to use on the memo. The person with the higher gpa takes the other person's arguments with a grain of salt but listens intently to a third person with a known high gpa.

A lot of people face an identity crisis when they are no longer getting the highest grades but had always considered intelligence to be "their thing." Remember that grades do not necessarily = intelligence and more importantly remember all your good qualities that have nothing to do with intelligence or academic achievement.
Also, keep connections with friends outside of law school that will value you no matter what your grades or job status are. It sounds so simple and obvious but sometimes you need a confidence boost from the outside world.

[First Offense]

I didn't witness any of the bolded; it sounds really unfortunate. first, I hardly shared my grades with anyone.. but moreover, my study group only changed insofar as our sections were reassembled. The below median and top third folks kept studying with each other without interruption, even passive.

(then again, I didn't have a particularly gunnery study group lol)

Yeah I didn't mean for that to come across as strong as it did. In reality it's much more subtle and complex a phenomena; a grade induced halo effect. Here are some specific examples:
1) A friend is complaining to you about a person they don't like. At some point during their rant, the disliked person's below-median gpa will inevitably be brought up as yet another character flaw or as a way to discredit the person.
2) People constantly comment on how smart, brilliant, genius, etc. the people with the high gpas are. Do you think they say the same about people with lower gpas? In general "smart" becomes synonymous with "high gpa."
3) Person with low gpa argues with someone about substantive law in a class or what cases to use on the memo. The person with the higher gpa takes the other person's arguments with a grain of salt but listens intently to a third person with a known high gpa.

A lot of people face an identity crisis when they are no longer getting the highest grades but had always considered intelligence to be "their thing." Remember that grades do not necessarily = intelligence and more importantly remember all your good qualities that have nothing to do with intelligence or academic achievement.
Also, keep connections with friends outside of law school that will value you no matter what your grades or job status are. It sounds so simple and obvious but sometimes you need a confidence boost from the outside world.

How the hell do you know what anyone else's GPA is? I literally don't know any person's GPA other than my own. I have a general sense of a couple of close friends from just opening up a bit about nervousness re: jobs and whatnot, but beyond that - no clue. Does your school publish the class rankings or some shit?

[sublime]

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[raekaya]

How the hell do you know what anyone else's GPA is? I literally don't know any person's GPA other than my own. I have a general sense of a couple of close friends from just opening up a bit about nervousness re: jobs and whatnot, but beyond that - no clue. Does your school publish the class rankings or some shit?

No school publishing but I'd say at least 5 people told me their grades straight up while others I've heard through the grapevine.
One problem was that we didn't get our grades back until the first week of school after Winter Break. What would happen is that you'd be somewhere with your friends when, all of a sudden, a person checks his grades on his Iphone and finds a new one has been posted. In the heat of passion, this person either excitedly tells you that he got a good grade or vents about his disappointing grade.
If you have close friends in LS, it's hard not to tell them, especially when they share theirs and then ask you flat out.
In addition, at my school there is a class that students can opt into second semester that you supposedly can't get into without relatively low grades so people make the assumption that the students in that class struggled a bit first semester.
Probably the most absurd is my knowing the gpa of a guy I've hardly spoken to because a friend of a friend accidentally saw the gpa on his resume.

[Nova]

I didn't witness any of the bolded; it sounds really unfortunate. first, I hardly shared my grades with anyone.. but moreover, my study group only changed insofar as our sections were reassembled. The below median and top third folks kept studying with each other without interruption, even passive.

(then again, I didn't have a particularly gunnery study group lol)

Yeah I didn't mean for that to come across as strong as it did. In reality it's much more subtle and complex a phenomena; a grade induced halo effect. Here are some specific examples:
1) A friend is complaining to you about a person they don't like. At some point during their rant, the disliked person's below-median gpa will inevitably be brought up as yet another character flaw or as a way to discredit the person.
2) People constantly comment on how smart, brilliant, genius, etc. the people with the high gpas are. Do you think they say the same about people with lower gpas? In general "smart" becomes synonymous with "high gpa."
3) Person with low gpa argues with someone about substantive law in a class or what cases to use on the memo. The person with the higher gpa takes the other person's arguments with a grain of salt but listens intently to a third person with a known high gpa.

This all seems awful and I didnt experience anything like this at all during 1/2L

[Holly Golightly]

There were def things I didn't like about law school, but overall I loved it, particularly the last 2 years. After 1L I took entirely classes that interested me, and I did clinics 2L and 3L that I was absolutely obsessed with. I really love the job I have now, but I still kind of miss being in school.

[jbagelboy]

I didn't witness any of the bolded; it sounds really unfortunate. first, I hardly shared my grades with anyone.. but moreover, my study group only changed insofar as our sections were reassembled. The below median and top third folks kept studying with each other without interruption, even passive.

(then again, I didn't have a particularly gunnery study group lol)

Yeah I didn't mean for that to come across as strong as it did. In reality it's much more subtle and complex a phenomena; a grade induced halo effect. Here are some specific examples:
1) A friend is complaining to you about a person they don't like. At some point during their rant, the disliked person's below-median gpa will inevitably be brought up as yet another character flaw or as a way to discredit the person.
2) People constantly comment on how smart, brilliant, genius, etc. the people with the high gpas are. Do you think they say the same about people with lower gpas? In general "smart" becomes synonymous with "high gpa."
3) Person with low gpa argues with someone about substantive law in a class or what cases to use on the memo. The person with the higher gpa takes the other person's arguments with a grain of salt but listens intently to a third person with a known high gpa.

This all seems awful and I didnt experience anything like this at all during 1/2L

Yea, I have to agree with Nova and reaffirm my comments from earlier.. I just can't imagine 1), 2) or 3). Unless I'm just totally deaf and blind to it. I definitely felt badly personally about my shitty Contracts grade from fall semester, but in reality it was pretty middle of the road and a lot of people struggled with the same bullshit (it was the worst written/designed exam basically in the history of exams). So I haven't let that impact my interactions with others - although I guess when people do ask me for advice related to Contracts, I very honestly tell them that I'm the wrong person to ask.

I just don't think most law students at my school even think about their classmates and friends this way. We all respect each other as talented individuals and if someone's struggling, I would sooner offer any assistance I could than judge.

[ResolutePear]

undergrad was a lot more "fun" in the traditional drug abusing/music festival attending/beerpong tournament dominating sense.

there are other ways to have fun?

No. There are not.

[beepboopbeep]

I didn't witness any of the bolded; it sounds really unfortunate. first, I hardly shared my grades with anyone.. but moreover, my study group only changed insofar as our sections were reassembled. The below median and top third folks kept studying with each other without interruption, even passive.

(then again, I didn't have a particularly gunnery study group lol)

Yeah I didn't mean for that to come across as strong as it did. In reality it's much more subtle and complex a phenomena; a grade induced halo effect. Here are some specific examples:
1) A friend is complaining to you about a person they don't like. At some point during their rant, the disliked person's below-median gpa will inevitably be brought up as yet another character flaw or as a way to discredit the person.
2) People constantly comment on how smart, brilliant, genius, etc. the people with the high gpas are. Do you think they say the same about people with lower gpas? In general "smart" becomes synonymous with "high gpa."
3) Person with low gpa argues with someone about substantive law in a class or what cases to use on the memo. The person with the higher gpa takes the other person's arguments with a grain of salt but listens intently to a third person with a known high gpa.

This all seems awful and I didnt experience anything like this at all during 1/2L

Yea, I have to agree with Nova and reaffirm my comments from earlier.. I just can't imagine 1), 2) or 3). Unless I'm just totally deaf and blind to it. I definitely felt badly personally about my shitty Contracts grade from fall semester, but in reality it was pretty middle of the road and a lot of people struggled with the same bullshit (it was the worst written/designed exam basically in the history of exams). So I haven't let that impact my interactions with others - although I guess when people do ask me for advice related to Contracts, I very honestly tell them that I'm the wrong person to ask.

I just don't think most law students at my school even think about their classmates and friends this way. We all respect each other as talented individuals and if someone's struggling, I would sooner offer any assistance I could than judge.

+1 to all of this. After hearing horror stories as a 0L, I've been pretty surprised at how non-cutthroat the vast majority of people are, at least outwardly. I haven't observed any grade snobbery and basically no one knows anyone else's grades, aside from close friends. The farthest it's gone is that you could kind of tell who was emboldened by their grades into raising their hands 3-5x per class.

[WhiskeynCoke]

How the hell do you know what anyone else's GPA is? I literally don't know any person's GPA other than my own. I have a general sense of a couple of close friends from just opening up a bit about nervousness re: jobs and whatnot, but beyond that - no clue. Does your school publish the class rankings or some shit?

No school publishing but I'd say at least 5 people told me their grades straight up while others I've heard through the grapevine.
One problem was that we didn't get our grades back until the first week of school after Winter Break. What would happen is that you'd be somewhere with your friends when, all of a sudden, a person checks his grades on his Iphone and finds a new one has been posted. In the heat of passion, this person either excitedly tells you that he got a good grade or vents about his disappointing grade.
If you have close friends in LS, it's hard not to tell them, especially when they share theirs and then ask you flat out.
In addition, at my school there is a class that students can opt into second semester that you supposedly can't get into without relatively low grades so people make the assumption that the students in that class struggled a bit first semester.
Probably the most absurd is my knowing the gpa of a guy I've hardly spoken to because a friend of a friend accidentally saw the gpa on his resume.

I'll be honest, this sounds completely absurd to me. I don't know a single one of my classmates' grades, not even my super close friends. In what context does it seem appropriate to blurt out your GPA and ask someone else for theirs?

"Hey dude, crazy Game of Thrones episode last night. By the way I got a XX GPA and am super proud of how smart I am. Now, tell me your GPA so I can judge you by it and exclude you from future activities."

The whole thing seems like an insecure, hyper competitive, humblebrag circle-jerk. Something is wrong with either (1) your school's student body, or (2) your group of friends. There's literally zero way to have an actual, numerically specific discussion about your grades with another law student without at least one of you being a douche. If you don't think it's douchey, it's because it's you.

It's fine to tell your family and your non-classmate friends your grades. But don't blurt your GPA out to people you are being curved against. It's completely socially retarded. Period.

[chizzy]

How the hell do you know what anyone else's GPA is? I literally don't know any person's GPA other than my own. I have a general sense of a couple of close friends from just opening up a bit about nervousness re: jobs and whatnot, but beyond that - no clue. Does your school publish the class rankings or some shit?

No school publishing but I'd say at least 5 people told me their grades straight up while others I've heard through the grapevine.
One problem was that we didn't get our grades back until the first week of school after Winter Break. What would happen is that you'd be somewhere with your friends when, all of a sudden, a person checks his grades on his Iphone and finds a new one has been posted. In the heat of passion, this person either excitedly tells you that he got a good grade or vents about his disappointing grade.
If you have close friends in LS, it's hard not to tell them, especially when they share theirs and then ask you flat out.
In addition, at my school there is a class that students can opt into second semester that you supposedly can't get into without relatively low grades so people make the assumption that the students in that class struggled a bit first semester.
Probably the most absurd is my knowing the gpa of a guy I've hardly spoken to because a friend of a friend accidentally saw the gpa on his resume.

I'll be honest, this sounds completely absurd to me. I don't know a single one of my classmates' grades, not even my super close friends. In what context does it seem appropriate to blurt out your GPA and ask someone else for theirs?

"Hey dude, crazy Game of Thrones episode last night. By the way I got a XX GPA and am super proud of how smart I am. Now, tell me your GPA so I can judge you by it and exclude you from future activities."

The whole thing seems like an insecure, hyper competitive, humblebrag circle-jerk. Something is wrong with either (1) your school's student body, or (2) your group of friends. There's literally zero way to have an actual, numerically specific discussion about your grades with another law student without at least one of you being a douche. If you don't think it's douchey, it's because it's you.

It's fine to tell your family and your non-classmate friends your grades. But don't blurt your GPA out to people you are being curved against. It's completely socially retarded. Period.

Yeah I don't think I want to be telling people about my grade. So i was worried when I saw this post.

[lawhopeful10]

Some people are really cool and some suck just like everywhere else in life. If your debt will be low at graduation law school is sweet. I feel like the more debt you have the shittier everyday life is, at least if you are like me and want to pay if off as fast as possible.

[raekaya]

How the hell do you know what anyone else's GPA is? I literally don't know any person's GPA other than my own. I have a general sense of a couple of close friends from just opening up a bit about nervousness re: jobs and whatnot, but beyond that - no clue. Does your school publish the class rankings or some shit?

No school publishing but I'd say at least 5 people told me their grades straight up while others I've heard through the grapevine.
One problem was that we didn't get our grades back until the first week of school after Winter Break. What would happen is that you'd be somewhere with your friends when, all of a sudden, a person checks his grades on his Iphone and finds a new one has been posted. In the heat of passion, this person either excitedly tells you that he got a good grade or vents about his disappointing grade.
If you have close friends in LS, it's hard not to tell them, especially when they share theirs and then ask you flat out.
In addition, at my school there is a class that students can opt into second semester that you supposedly can't get into without relatively low grades so people make the assumption that the students in that class struggled a bit first semester.
Probably the most absurd is my knowing the gpa of a guy I've hardly spoken to because a friend of a friend accidentally saw the gpa on his resume.

I'll be honest, this sounds completely absurd to me. I don't know a single one of my classmates' grades, not even my super close friends. In what context does it seem appropriate to blurt out your GPA and ask someone else for theirs?

"Hey dude, crazy Game of Thrones episode last night. By the way I got a XX GPA and am super proud of how smart I am. Now, tell me your GPA so I can judge you by it and exclude you from future activities."

The whole thing seems like an insecure, hyper competitive, humblebrag circle-jerk. Something is wrong with either (1) your school's student body, or (2) your group of friends. There's literally zero way to have an actual, numerically specific discussion about your grades with another law student without at least one of you being a douche. If you don't think it's douchey, it's because it's you.

It's fine to tell your family and your non-classmate friends your grades. But don't blurt your GPA out to people you are being curved against. It's completely socially retarded. Period.

FWIW some friends telling me their grades are in other sections, so I'm not being curved against them (including my SO, with whom I obviously share my grades). But trust me, I completely see where you are coming from. I was very set on not telling anyone my grades but the peer pressure got to me quickly and made it so that I felt more douchy not sharing than sharing. I'm genuinely curious as to how I'm supposed to respond when someone I'm close with asks me. I feel really awkward replying that "I'd rather not say" because if your friend just told you they got a disappointing grade then they will think you are being a dick and just playing coy because you did better than them.
If you didn't do better or did only marginally better then they've gotten your solidarity. If you did do better, at least you can say something like, "Well I got ___ but I must have just gotten lucky since I know how well you knew that material. Grades are such a crapshoot!" to console them.
To be sure, almost every time someone told me a grade it was venting, not bragging. The exception was my SO, and yes, I will admit that turned into a bit of a circle-jerk because he and his good friend both did well and thus had no qualms talking about it with each other (IMO rightfully so). This allowed me to sit back during their excitement and let that feeling of mediocrity really sink in (hence my original post regarding gpa and self-worth).

I'm actually really surprised my experience has been so different from everyone else's ITT so maybe it really is just my group of friends but we're nice people I promise :/

[JoeFish]

I liked law school a lot. Quite honestly, I love reading cases.

The other thing I liked about law school was the whole your-grade-is-based-on-a-single-exam scheme. In HS and undergrad I was the kind of (guy/moron/slacker/douche) who would get a 99 average test grade and a 55 homework grade. I just always liked taking tests and hated doing homework. So, having my entire grade based on one exam was pretty conducive to success/enjoyment for me.

[WhiskeynCoke]

How the hell do you know what anyone else's GPA is? I literally don't know any person's GPA other than my own. I have a general sense of a couple of close friends from just opening up a bit about nervousness re: jobs and whatnot, but beyond that - no clue. Does your school publish the class rankings or some shit?

No school publishing but I'd say at least 5 people told me their grades straight up while others I've heard through the grapevine.
One problem was that we didn't get our grades back until the first week of school after Winter Break. What would happen is that you'd be somewhere with your friends when, all of a sudden, a person checks his grades on his Iphone and finds a new one has been posted. In the heat of passion, this person either excitedly tells you that he got a good grade or vents about his disappointing grade.
If you have close friends in LS, it's hard not to tell them, especially when they share theirs and then ask you flat out.
In addition, at my school there is a class that students can opt into second semester that you supposedly can't get into without relatively low grades so people make the assumption that the students in that class struggled a bit first semester.
Probably the most absurd is my knowing the gpa of a guy I've hardly spoken to because a friend of a friend accidentally saw the gpa on his resume.

I'll be honest, this sounds completely absurd to me. I don't know a single one of my classmates' grades, not even my super close friends. In what context does it seem appropriate to blurt out your GPA and ask someone else for theirs?

"Hey dude, crazy Game of Thrones episode last night. By the way I got a XX GPA and am super proud of how smart I am. Now, tell me your GPA so I can judge you by it and exclude you from future activities."

The whole thing seems like an insecure, hyper competitive, humblebrag circle-jerk. Something is wrong with either (1) your school's student body, or (2) your group of friends. There's literally zero way to have an actual, numerically specific discussion about your grades with another law student without at least one of you being a douche. If you don't think it's douchey, it's because it's you.

It's fine to tell your family and your non-classmate friends your grades. But don't blurt your GPA out to people you are being curved against. It's completely socially retarded. Period.

FWIW some friends telling me their grades are in other sections, so I'm not being curved against them (including my SO, with whom I obviously share my grades). But trust me, I completely see where you are coming from. I was very set on not telling anyone my grades but the peer pressure got to me quickly and made it so that I felt more douchy not sharing than sharing. I'm genuinely curious as to how I'm supposed to respond when someone I'm close with asks me. I feel really awkward replying that "I'd rather not say" because if your friend just told you they got a disappointing grade then they will think you are being a dick and just playing coy because you did better than them.
If you didn't do better or did only marginally better then they've gotten your solidarity. If you did do better, at least you can say something like, "Well I got ___ but I must have just gotten lucky since I know how well you knew that material. Grades are such a crapshoot!" to console them.
To be sure, almost every time someone told me a grade it was venting, not bragging. The exception was my SO, and yes, I will admit that turned into a bit of a circle-jerk because he and his good friend both did well and thus had no qualms talking about it with each other (IMO rightfully so). This allowed me to sit back during their excitement and let that feeling of mediocrity really sink in (hence my original post regarding gpa and self-worth).

I'm actually really surprised my experience has been so different from everyone else's ITT so maybe it really is just my group of friends but we're nice people I promise :/

Keep your answer vague and aloof, for both your sake and theirs. The type of people who ask for your grades are the type of people who treat it like they are comparing penis size (/female version). It also helps to turn it into a joke or a criticism about the system. Whether they ask you in a general sense ("how did you do last semester) or are aspie enough to ask you directly ("what did you get in contracts?"), your response should be the same.

Here are some examples, but this is honestly just common sense:
1. I'm happy/satisfied with my grade(s) (use a "meh" sort of dismissive tone, not "proud of self" tone)
2. I did fine/OK/alright
3. I think I could've done a little better, but whatever. Fuck the curve.

If you respond this way, and they are obnoxious enough to continue to push you (did you get an A/B-?, etc.), you should get sarcastic to emphasize that you're hinting at them to fuck off (also, get new friends).
1. "Use your imagination"
2. "I can neither confirm or deny that."
3. "Maybe, maybe not."

Telling others your grades is lose-lose. If you did well and this gets out, people will despise you for it, especially for disclosing how well you did. If you did shitty, they'll question your intelligence (which is stupid for a lot of reasons). If you never give out an actual answer, they can't shove your GPA into the gossip mill. Fuck their ego fishing trip.

EDIT: Also, the whole thing about different sections is actually irrelevant. People will assume you would've gotten the same grades if you were both in the same section. Further, you are all going through OCI at the same time, and will still be compared against each other by employers. (It's less bad if you are different years, but still avoid).

[sublime]

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[DoveBodyWash]

Oci plus journals plus what people say really gives you a pretty good idea.

+1

I've enjoyed law school so far..but i've been lucky. I can imagine being much more miserable if I struggled in the classroom while borrowing large loans or something

[beepboopbeep]

Keep your answer vague and aloof, for both your sake and theirs. The type of people who ask for your grades are the type of people who treat it like they are comparing penis size (/female version). It also helps to turn it into a joke or a criticism about the system. Whether they ask you in a general sense ("how did you do last semester) or are aspie enough to ask you directly ("what did you get in contracts?"), your response should be the same.

Here are some examples, but this is honestly just common sense:
1. I'm happy/satisfied with my grade(s) (use a "meh" sort of dismissive tone, not "proud of self" tone)
2. I did fine/OK/alright
3. I think I could've done a little better, but whatever. Fuck the curve.

If you respond this way, and they are obnoxious enough to continue to push you (did you get an A/B-?, etc.), you should get sarcastic to emphasize that you're hinting at them to fuck off (also, get new friends).
1. "Use your imagination"
2. "I can neither confirm or deny that."
3. "Maybe, maybe not."

Telling others your grades is lose-lose. If you did well and this gets out, people will despise you for it, especially for disclosing how well you did. If you did shitty, they'll question your intelligence (which is stupid for a lot of reasons). If you never give out an actual answer, they can't shove your GPA into the gossip mill. Fuck their ego fishing trip.

EDIT: Also, the whole thing about different sections is actually irrelevant. People will assume you would've gotten the same grades if you were both in the same section. Further, you are all going through OCI at the same time, and will still be compared against each other by employers. (It's less bad if you are different years, but still avoid).

Pretty big +1 to this. It should be required reading for 0Ls.

That having been said, two of my closest 1L friends know my grades down to the hundred of a decimal. We were pretty drunk (or at least I was), and it's definitely not a conversation that would've happened without alcohol. I don't really regret it. It's nice to be able to have conversations about OCI/clerking/etc with people who actually know your situation. But I would be DAMN sure that you trust someone to 1) not let your grades affect their opinion of you (for better or worse), and 2) not tell others what you got, before you share your grades with anyone. Conversations with anyone else should never pass the point of disappointed/not disappointed - that answer is particularly good because you have no idea if someone would be disappointed with top 30% or happy about being median.

[jdx2014]

My only regret is graduating

thinking about becoming one of those LLM/JSD freaks