GULC Students Taking Questions Forum

[Gray]

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[Hand]

It's so that you ~connect~ more with one of your profs they also invite you to their house for dinner and shit

Ah, so that's standard procedure for the entirety of GULC.

Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

They do give 3 separate exams, but you only take one of 'm so ??

eta scooped by gray

[WhiskeyAndCupcakes]

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[Hand]

And it's actually a positive. The small section profs are pretty easy to approach as references for 1L summer jobs after you went to their house, etc.

Except when your small section doctrinal prof's teaching is so abysmal you end up skipping half the classes because it is too infuriating to sit there and listen to that shit, then-despite getting your best grade of the semester in that class-you will never ask them for anything

[buckiguy_sucks]

It's so that you ~connect~ more with one of your profs they also invite you to their house for dinner and shit

Ah, so that's standard procedure for the entirety of GULC.

Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

No your exams and classes will cover different things for your small section class

Your LRW class is effectively half the class, you're only in class with like 25 but you're graded against like 50-60

E: I refuse to admit being scooped why is all of GULC 1L class on TLS at the same time

E2: oh I just missed a page, this has been an embarrasing TLS experience for me

[WhiskeyAndCupcakes]

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[Hand]

And it's actually a positive. The small section profs are pretty easy to approach as references for 1L summer jobs after you went to their house, etc.

Except when your small section doctrinal prof's teaching is so abysmal you end up skipping half the classes because it is too infuriating to sit there and listen to that shit, then-despite getting your best grade of the semester in that class-you will never ask them for anything

That sounds like a personal problem...

It most certainly wasn't just me skipping that class half the time due to spiking rage levels, although of those people it may have just been me who did well nonetheless

ETA what I'm trying to say if one of you new kids finds themselves in a Ks class with Oldham, I would start investing in supplements right now and just never go to class

[Hand]

It's so that you ~connect~ more with one of your profs they also invite you to their house for dinner and shit

Ah, so that's standard procedure for the entirety of GULC.

Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

No your exams and classes will cover different things for your small section class

Your LRW class is effectively half the class, you're only in class with like 25 but you're graded against like 50-60

E: I refuse to admit being scooped why is all of GULC 1L class on TLS at the same time

E2: oh I just missed a page, this has been an embarrasing TLS experience for me

We have nowhere else to be

[Gray]

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[Ar40]

It's so that you ~connect~ more with one of your profs they also invite you to their house for dinner and shit

Ah, so that's standard procedure for the entirety of GULC.

Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

They do give 3 separate exams, but you only take one of 'm so ??

eta scooped by gray

Double post.

[Ar40]

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Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

Yeah each small section has it's own exam and it's own curve. The material is definitely different between small sections. IDK why that's a negative though?

AHHH, I just figured out what you guys were saying. D'oh. I thought I had all 3 profs, and took turns going to each one on the schedule somehow. Now you're saying it's one of the three classes, and in a small group. Not too bad.

[WhiskeyAndCupcakes]

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[Ar40]

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Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

Yeah each small section has it's own exam and it's own curve. The material is definitely different between small sections. IDK why that's a negative though?

AHHH, I just figured out what you guys were saying. D'oh. I thought I had all 3 profs, and took turns going to each one on the schedule somehow. Now you're saying it's one of the three classes, and in a small group. Not too bad.

Oh, yes, that's correct. One prof. 30ish students. Just a smaller class.

So when the schedule for section 5 lists Con Law 1 both at 9:35-11, and 1:55-3:20 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I'm going to get one of the two time slots. Is there some way for me request the later time slot, or is that chosen for me?

[Hand]

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Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

Yeah each small section has it's own exam and it's own curve. The material is definitely different between small sections. IDK why that's a negative though?

AHHH, I just figured out what you guys were saying. D'oh. I thought I had all 3 profs, and took turns going to each one on the schedule somehow. Now you're saying it's one of the three classes, and in a small group. Not too bad.

Oh, yes, that's correct. One prof. 30ish students. Just a smaller class.

So when the schedule for section 5 lists Con Law 1 both at 9:35-11, and 1:55-3:20 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I'm going to get one of the two time slots. Is there some way for me request the later time slot, or is that chosen for me?

They won't ask for your input. Small section assignments are announced during orientation.

[rychellemarie]

I had most of the above profs but I was trying to reply while trapped on the yellow line and my phone ate my long reply.

PM me for Mikhail, Hyman, Ohm, Delaurentis, and Gelpern.

Also had Dinh and Gottesman

Interested in these professors- PM'd you!

[Glasseyes]

I had Langevoort and Ohm, but for Corporations and Info Privacy respectively. They're both excellent.

Langevoort is one of the best profs at GULC and the most in-demand corporations professor by far. He also wrote the textbook for Securities Regulation. At least in corps he puts you on call twice per semester and you may or may not actually get called (I dodged it both times). He was a tiny bit sneaky about expecting us to know more of the various corporate rules than he let on during class (tho the syllabus was pretty clear), so for contracts you should prepare to be at least somewhat familiar with UCC provisions unless he specifically says otherwise. I never found a great Contracts supp, but some folks love Acing Contracts. I had the E&E but never used it, only dipping into the flowcharts in the Crunchtime and never digging deeper. You'll have a ton of options for contracts, so shop around for one that suits you.

Ohm is relatively new and he's the head of the new Privacy Institute. It'll be interesting to learn the 4th Amendment from him for sure. My class was a small section and he was a pretty standard cold-caller, mostly just to walk through cases. Brief your cases and you'll be fine; he's not mean or intense at all. He gave a 6 hour takehome for his 3 credit Privacy class, so I'd expect something similar (maybe 8 hours) for crim. No idea what supps you should get for him specifically, but Dressler's Criminal Procedure Volume 1 is one of the best supps in all of law school, up there with Chemerinsky for Con law.

[buckiguy_sucks]

Langevoort is one of the best profs at GULC and the most in-demand corporations professor by far. He also wrote the textbook for Securities Regulation. At least in corps he puts you on call twice per semester and you may or may not actually get called (I dodged it both times). He was a tiny bit sneaky about expecting us to know more of the various corporate rules than he let on during class (tho the syllabus was pretty clear), so for contracts you should prepare to be at least somewhat familiar with UCC provisions unless he specifically says otherwise. I never found a great Contracts supp, but some folks love Acing Contracts. I had the E&E but never used it, only dipping into the flowcharts in the Crunchtime and never digging deeper. You'll have a ton of options for contracts, so shop around for one that suits you.

i had him for small section contracts and it was by far the hardest test of 1L for me but also the class i loved the most.

that being said i signed up for regan corps instead i'm trying to 2lol here

[TLSModBot]

I had Langevoort for Sec Reg. Second everything Glasses said - he's a fantastic prof but don't expect an easy ride or an easy A.

[laynie]

Could anyone offer some insight into the following profs?

Civ Pro - Abernathy
Torts - Spunn
ConLaw - Tew, Donohue, or Dinh
LW - Bonneau or Kettler

[Anonnonnon]

I was wondering if any of you guys could comment on the location of an apartment I'm looking into? PM me - as an out of stater I could use any help I can get

[Glasseyes]

Could anyone offer some insight into the following profs?

Civ Pro - Abernathy
Torts - Spunn
ConLaw - Tew, Donohue, or Dinh
LW - Bonneau or Kettler

Abernathy is the most feared of all 1L profs, mainly because he pushes the cold call thing to aggressive heights not seen outside of the Paper Chase. Or that's the rumor. I never had him but I know plenty who did—he's supposed to be an excellent teacher, and I gather his shtick is really just a shtick meant to toughen up 1Ls. Spann is amazing, hilarious, completely detached from human emotion, and a legal deconstructionist like no other. He will learn exactly none of your names unless he can use you to set up running jokes about preferring equity over law. I loved his class consistently but I really should have prepared better for his exam. Speaking of the exam, he does short answer q's and while it seems easier than an issue spotter, it can be far worse in some ways when you realize you have no idea what he's looking for. Great professor all around, very hide the ball, you'll def want to prep hard for the exam because the class sessions won't teach you much of the black letter law you'll need.

Don't know the others, but Dinh wrote the Patriot Act and works with Paul Clement at Bancroft, so do with that what you will.

[Glasseyes]

Oh, and Spann doesn't cold call. Should balance out well with Abernathy.

[BmoreOrLess]

Could anyone offer some insight into the following profs?

Civ Pro - Abernathy
Torts - Spunn
ConLaw - Tew, Donohue, or Dinh
LW - Bonneau or Kettler

Abernathy is the most feared of all 1L profs, mainly because he pushes the cold call thing to aggressive heights not seen outside of the Paper Chase. Or that's the rumor. I never had him but I know plenty who did—he's supposed to be an excellent teacher, and I gather his shtick is really just a shtick meant to toughen up 1Ls. Spann is amazing, hilarious, completely detached from human emotion, and a legal deconstructionist like no other. He will learn exactly none of your names unless he can use you to set up running jokes about preferring equity over law. I loved his class consistently but I really should have prepared better for his exam. Speaking of the exam, he does short answer q's and while it seems easier than an issue spotter, it can be far worse in some ways when you realize you have no idea what he's looking for. Great professor all around, very hide the ball, you'll def want to prep hard for the exam because the class sessions won't teach you much of the black letter law you'll need.

Don't know the others, but Dinh wrote the Patriot Act and works with Paul Clement at Bancroft, so do with that what you will.

This. Spann's exams are almost like the LSAT (i.e., extremely learnable). He should have a ton of practice exams up, and you should take every single one. My study group spent much more time breaking down the mechanics of his questions and answers than we did talking about the material itself and benefited heavily from it.

[Minnietron]

Could anyone offer some insight into the following profs?

Civ Pro - Abernathy
Torts - Spunn
ConLaw - Tew, Donohue, or Dinh
LW - Bonneau or Kettler

Dinh: He has an on call schedule. All of his classes are recorded (sound and video) so you really don't have to go unless you are on call. He loves the Vesting Clauses of Articles I, II, and - to a lesser extent - III. I did not read the casebook and solely used Chemerinsky, but be warned, he differs with Chem on some points. If Scalia wrote a dissent, treat it akin to a majority opinion and reference it on the exam. For the exam, write like a conservative. Also, go over his exam memos to see how he uses cases. There are certain cases he repeatedly uses for the same propositions - even though it was not the main takeaway from the case. There are some decent outlines on the SBA outline bank, but nothing that I would substitute for making your own.

Bonneau: Again, I stopped reading the book after the first three classes. She tells you everything you need to know in class and provides helpful powerpoints for reference. Follow her preferred writing structure - CRuPAC - religiously, minimize technical errors and you can coast. Also, very dry sense of humor - if you think she is making a joke, but are not sure, it is a safe bet to laugh. She has lots of old BlueBook exams, and certain types of question/answer combos show up often. Even though it is a small percentage of your grade, her curve was extremely tight after first semester, so every point counts.

[Minnietron]

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Well, at least it's only in Con Law 1 and LRW.

I hope they don't give 3 separate exams in Con Law 1 because of this... And I hope each prof is in sync with the other ones so there isn't too much overlap, etc.

Yeah each small section has it's own exam and it's own curve. The material is definitely different between small sections. IDK why that's a negative though?

AHHH, I just figured out what you guys were saying. D'oh. I thought I had all 3 profs, and took turns going to each one on the schedule somehow. Now you're saying it's one of the three classes, and in a small group. Not too bad.

Oh, yes, that's correct. One prof. 30ish students. Just a smaller class.

Lots of people like the small sections, I prefer larger classes. You have closer to a normal distribution and less chance of a stacked class.