Cornell 1L taking questions Forum

[Arbiter213]

So in the event that you get no journal, I heard that you can work into JLPP. Is there a point to this - I mean AJF and everything would be over by then - assuming you have a job?

Work on decisions will be made before AJF.

Wait what? Then how do you "work on" to JLPP in that short time period between decisions and AJF?

You misunderstand what "work-on" means.

[MischiefMayhemSoap]

inform me o arbiter

[Arbiter213]

inform me o arbiter

It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.

[MischiefMayhemSoap]

inform me o arbiter

It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.

Do you find out if you made it as a probationary associate, or do you sign up to be so after learning you made no journal?

[Lincoln]

inform me o arbiter

It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.

Do you find out if you made it as a probationary associate, or do you sign up to be so after learning you made no journal?

The latter, but, as has been discussed earlier in the thread, there aren't unlimited spots for work-on associates, so not everyone who misses out on a journal will get on JLPP through that process.

[MischiefMayhemSoap]

inform me o arbiter

It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.

Do you find out if you made it as a probationary associate, or do you sign up to be so after learning you made no journal?

The latter, but, as has been discussed earlier in the thread, there aren't unlimited spots for work-on associates, so not everyone who misses out on a journal will get on JLPP through that process.

so, how does one get on JLPP through that process? ty for your answers, trying to be prepped for worst case scenario.

[Arbiter213]

so, how does one get on JLPP through that process? ty for your answers, trying to be prepped for worst case scenario.

I believe there's a second (very brief) application and they consider that + your writing comp credentials and make offers the same as regular associates.

[redsox550]

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

[Arbiter213]

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

No, doesn't matter.

[Lacepiece23]

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.

[Arbiter213]

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.

It also doesn't help that the last day is usually predominantly* safety firms.

*Edit: I can't spell.

[Lacepiece23]

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.

It also doesn't help that the last day is usually predominately safety firms.

very true...

[redsox550]

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.

It also doesn't help that the last day is usually predominately safety firms.

very true...

ya kinda surprised by the the lack of talent on the third day, no disrespect to any of day 3 firms, just compared to day 1 and 2, day 3 is weak

[muddup]

Day 3 is for your first callback... unless you really want/need to bid those firms.

[Arbiter213]

Day 3 is for your first callback... unless you really want/need to bid those firms.

That's a bit excessive- there are some great firms there, and until you have an offer in hand, you need to bid every firm.

[Lacepiece23]

Any last minute advice before bidding closes?

[oldad]

Any last minute advice before bidding closes?

Order a beer with your lunch.

[northerrn]

http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... rs/nyc.cfm

This is referring to firms participating in AJF, not students right?

[Lacepiece23]

http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... rs/nyc.cfm

This is referring to firms participating in AJF, not students right?

Thats a great question I thought it was referring to us, but i have no clue.

[northerrn]

yeah none of the career services emails, or notices ever said anything about a registration fee, so (hopefully) they wouldn't just spring one on us after we submit bids lol

[hephaestus]

Does anyone have advice for firms that have schedules multiple days? If you get it both days do they cancel you for one day? I'm assuming there's some sort of workaround for this.
If not, should we only bid the firm one day?

[redsox550]

http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... rs/nyc.cfm

This is referring to firms participating in AJF, not students right?

Thats a great question I thought it was referring to us, but i have no clue.

I think that is talking about employers who want to participate, not stduents. As in employers need to pay Cornell to participate in AJF/OCI

[redsox550]

Any last minute advice before bidding closes?

Order a beer with your lunch.

Copy that. Definately gonna be a happy hour day. Happy to be done with bidding... though I still keep chaning one or two things every 20 minutes

[gonewiththewind]

Any last minute advice before bidding closes?

Order a beer with your lunch.

Copy that. Definately gonna be a happy hour day. Happy to be done with bidding... though I still keep chaning one or two things every 20 minutes

Well, you got 20 minutes left.

[redsox550]

when do we find out the results?