Any thoughts? The course evaluations for both professors seems to be roughly the same.sccjnthn wrote:Any recommendations on whether I should take Hynes-Law and Business (TR) or Walt (MW) for Secured transactions?
I will be taking Walt's Bankruptcy Class (MW) and my other classes will be TR if that makes a difference.
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sccjnthn wrote:Any thoughts? The course evaluations for both professors seems to be roughly the same.sccjnthn wrote:Any recommendations on whether I should take Hynes-Law and Business (TR) or Walt (MW) for Secured transactions?
I will be taking Walt's Bankruptcy Class (MW) and my other classes will be TR if that makes a difference.
Someone earlier said one Walt class is enough at a time, because he is pretty dull. So on that I'd suggest Hynes, but that'd be my only reason why.
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I really liked Hynes and certainly would not describe him as "dull." He cold calls a little bit too much, at least in the class I took, but it was his first time teaching it. I think he'll be more comfortable in classes he knows and classes that are less open ended. He's a really smart guy and really lively. Not knowing anything about Walt, I would take Hynes given the experience I've had. I guess my thought is: knowing Hynes, do I think my chances are high enough that I get a better professor that it is worth it to forego Hynes? I think my (and your) chance are probably pretty low.sccjnthn wrote:Any recommendations on whether I should take Hynes-Law and Business (TR) or Walt (MW) for Secured transactions?
I will be taking Walt's Bankruptcy Class (MW) and my other classes will be TR if that makes a difference.
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* To comment on the employment panic: I think it's being blown out of proportion. Of the people I know well to talk grades/OGIs, one had a rough go of things and the rest are doing really well. Not a representative sample, trust me, I know. Still, once preselects are done being picked and the lottery runs I think things will be fine.
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what are the bennies/negatives in being a part of SBA? and is it worth it?
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Any benefits would be on an individual level, i.e. you actually enjoy doing it.crossingforHYS wrote:what are the bennies/negatives in being a part of SBA? and is it worth it?
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So should we be expecting course lottery results today?
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joeshmo39 wrote:I really liked Hynes and certainly would not describe him as "dull." He cold calls a little bit too much, at least in the class I took, but it was his first time teaching it. I think he'll be more comfortable in classes he knows and classes that are less open ended. He's a really smart guy and really lively. Not knowing anything about Walt, I would take Hynes given the experience I've had. I guess my thought is: knowing Hynes, do I think my chances are high enough that I get a better professor that it is worth it to forego Hynes? I think my (and your) chance are probably pretty low.sccjnthn wrote:Any recommendations on whether I should take Hynes-Law and Business (TR) or Walt (MW) for Secured transactions?
I will be taking Walt's Bankruptcy Class (MW) and my other classes will be TR if that makes a difference.
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* To comment on the employment panic: I think it's being blown out of proportion. Of the people I know well to talk grades/OGIs, one had a rough go of things and the rest are doing really well. Not a representative sample, trust me, I know. Still, once preselects are done being picked and the lottery runs I think things will be fine.
Thanks for the post. Really helped me clear things up.
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It's no different than student government at high school and college. If you like that sort of stuff, join, and if not, don't join.crossingforHYS wrote:what are the bennies/negatives in being a part of SBA? and is it worth it?
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good to know, I didn't know if SBA was a different animal in Law School (silly I know.)
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I took both Secured Transactions and Bankruptcy and had both Walt and Hynes. Both professors are pretty good but neither is clearly better than the other.sccjnthn wrote:Any recommendations on whether I should take Hynes-Law and Business (TR) or Walt (MW) for Secured transactions?
I will be taking Walt's Bankruptcy Class (MW) and my other classes will be TR if that makes a difference.
Walt is very thorough in his explanations and conveys the material well. While the class can be dry, Walt is enthusiastic about the material which is helpful. Also, it seems to be a trend that his classes fall behind in the reading and don't seem to end up covering the entire class. This can be good and bad. On the one hand the reading ends up being fairly light, on the other, you don't really cover the whole course.
Hynes is a good communicator and does a decent job of teaching the material. Between Hynes and Walt, Hynes is the more entertaining professor. That being said, Hynes seems to make careless errors in lectures and exams such as stating the wrong code section or using incorrect dates on exams.
The classes are interesting and the professors are fairly good. I would recommend taking whichever professor fits better with your schedule.
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Between:
International - Verdier
Bankruptcy - Walt
Agency - Cohen
Conlaw II: Speech - Schauer
Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 12 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
International - Verdier
Bankruptcy - Walt
Agency - Cohen
Conlaw II: Speech - Schauer
Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 12 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
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Schauer's an expert in the field--I'd love to take that class. Agency is kind of dull but I like Cohen's grading style. Don't know anything about the other two classes.wackjickham wrote:Between:
International - Verdier
Bankruptcy - Walt
Agency - Cohen
Conlaw II: Speech - Schauer
Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 13 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
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Class lottery was rather disappointing. Snagged Admin, but none of my other top choices. Suppose I'm not surprised that Mahoney's class was full, but getting closed out of Law and Game Theory is a huge surprise. Who takes that shit?
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What's this second (or third, I guess you could call it) lottery that they're talking about?
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Schauer should be great for First Amendment stuff (introduced himself as a former "smut lawyer"). Don't know the other profs.Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 13 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
Pretty sure the minimum load for a 2L or 3L semester is 12 credits, no?
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, relevant to my interests.11) Students must be enrolled in at least 12 credits per semester during the regular academic year, regardless of the number of credits completed in summer school.
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I was also disappointed, although not surprised, to not get Law and Game Theory. There were only two spots left before the lottery, after all. Instead I have Copyright in that timeslot, and my schedule has me in at 10 and out by 1 everyday. Sweetness!dailygrind wrote:Class lottery was rather disappointing. Snagged Admin, but none of my other top choices. Suppose I'm not surprised that Mahoney's class was full, but getting closed out of Law and Game Theory is a huge surprise. Who takes that shit?
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I didn't look because I figured there wouldn't be a great deal of interest. I guess I underestimated the number of poli sci and econ students who are skating/keeping their game theory sharp.bgdddymtty wrote:I was also disappointed, although not surprised, to not get Law and Game Theory. There were only two spots left before the lottery, after all. Instead I have Copyright in that timeslot, and my schedule has me in at 10 and out by 1 everyday. Sweetness!dailygrind wrote:Class lottery was rather disappointing. Snagged Admin, but none of my other top choices. Suppose I'm not surprised that Mahoney's class was full, but getting closed out of Law and Game Theory is a huge surprise. Who takes that shit?
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You're right, typo on my part.ReelectClayDavis wrote:Schauer should be great for First Amendment stuff (introduced himself as a former "smut lawyer"). Don't know the other profs.Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 13 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
Pretty sure the minimum load for a 2L or 3L semester is 12 credits, no?
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, relevant to my interests.11) Students must be enrolled in at least 12 credits per semester during the regular academic year, regardless of the number of credits completed in summer school.
Academic Policies book on LawWeb, page 10
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I just want to say that one of my biggest regrets about leaving was not getting to take a class with Schauer. Amend I stuff ought to be especially good if taught by him. Don't even think about dumping that if you were lucky enough to get in.Cavalier wrote:Schauer's an expert in the field--I'd love to take that class. Agency is kind of dull but I like Cohen's grading style. Don't know anything about the other two classes.wackjickham wrote:Between:
International - Verdier
Bankruptcy - Walt
Agency - Cohen
Conlaw II: Speech - Schauer
Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 13 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
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Get rid of bankruptcy so I can take it.wackjickham wrote:Between:
International - Verdier
Bankruptcy - Walt
Agency - Cohen
Conlaw II: Speech - Schauer
Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 12 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
Got shut out of 2 of my top choices and all of my alternates. Not happy

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I'm dropping BK, so there'll be at least one spot open.berkeleykel06 wrote:Get rid of bankruptcy so I can take it.wackjickham wrote:Between:
International - Verdier
Bankruptcy - Walt
Agency - Cohen
Conlaw II: Speech - Schauer
Which one should I dump? Yes, I know I have to take 12 credits, but these are the classes I'm deciding between, plus another 4 credit.
Got shut out of 2 of my top choices and all of my alternates. Not happy
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Dammit, didn't get into my top choice and I'm really bummed about it (Coughlin's seminar). Is there a waitlist we can get on?
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OK. so I got to Cville on Monday. I understand that most people are not back at school, but it was mad boring in the ville. Just out of curiosity, how much more exciting does the town get during the school year?
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Depends on whether or not I decide to go out.yngblkgifted wrote:OK. so I got to Cville on Monday. I understand that most people are not back at school, but it was mad boring in the ville. Just out of curiosity, how much more exciting does the town get during the school year?
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Summer Monday-Wednesday is about as empty as it's going to get.yngblkgifted wrote:OK. so I got to Cville on Monday. I understand that most people are not back at school, but it was mad boring in the ville. Just out of curiosity, how much more exciting does the town get during the school year?
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