Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions Forum
- HermioneG.
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Hey all - so I have pretty much exhausted what I can glean from people I know/ course evals, so I thought I would see if anyone on here had experience with these classes, or with the profs in general:
Intro to Finance, 3 day section - Dharan
Constitutional Law of Money- Desan
Privacy, Tech and Natl Security - Heymann
Law and Psychology - Cope
Comparative Constitutional Law - Jackson
I'd love to hear any thoughts about them, especially regarding if any of them need to be ranked high. Also, in general, do the two credit seminars have papers for finals?
Intro to Finance, 3 day section - Dharan
Constitutional Law of Money- Desan
Privacy, Tech and Natl Security - Heymann
Law and Psychology - Cope
Comparative Constitutional Law - Jackson
I'd love to hear any thoughts about them, especially regarding if any of them need to be ranked high. Also, in general, do the two credit seminars have papers for finals?
- ph14
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Intro to Finance is pass/fail, so not really a big deal to take it or not. I think most seminars are paper classes. I know someone who took Con Law of Money, I think that was a paper class. Can't really speak to the other classes.HermioneG. wrote:Hey all - so I have pretty much exhausted what I can glean from people I know/ course evals, so I thought I would see if anyone on here had experience with these classes, or with the profs in general:
Intro to Finance, 3 day section - Dharan
Constitutional Law of Money- Desan
Privacy, Tech and Natl Security - Heymann
Law and Psychology - Cope
Comparative Constitutional Law - Jackson
I'd love to hear any thoughts about them, especially regarding if any of them need to be ranked high. Also, in general, do the two credit seminars have papers for finals?
- patogordo
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intro to finance is basically intro to microsoft excel. i stopped going after the first day and just showed up to take the final.
- MyNameIsFlynn!
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also w/r/t prefs, vigen added a tool that aggregates peoples prefs as they indicated them on HLS Dope. the sample size of 541 sounds like enough for this to be representative
http://hlsdope.org/topcourses
http://hlsdope.org/topcourses
HLS Dope - Top 20 most bookmarked classes in order of popularity wrote: 1. Trusts and Estates - Sitkoff
Analytical Methods for Lawyers - Spier
Employment Discrimination - Emens
Copyright and Trademark Litigation - Cendali
5. Privacy, Technology, and National Security - Heymann
Government Lawyer - Whiting
Law and Psychology: The Emotions - Cope
Introduction to Finance Concepts 3-Day Section - Dharan
White Collar Criminal Law and Procedure - Savarese
10. American Jury - Nesson
Challenges of a General Counsel - Wilkins
Bankruptcy - Roe
Capital Punishment in America - Steiker
The Supreme Court's 2013 Term - Kagan
15. Introduction to Accounting - Dharan
Ethics, Economics and the Law - Sandel
Legal Profession - Wilkins
Race and Justice: The Wire - Ogletree
Sex Equality - MacKinnon
20. Hedge Fund Law and Regulation - Mital
- Searchparty
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Anyone do the winter writing program outside of Cambridge? I really just want to stay home (no reason to further my writing)... how high is the bar to be outside of residence? Can I say I'm in residence but just never be there?
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- ph14
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Don't lie on a form. Ask your professor. It's entirely at the professor's discretion. My professor did not care at all either way.Searchparty wrote:Anyone do the winter writing program outside of Cambridge? I really just want to stay home (no reason to further my writing)... how high is the bar to be outside of residence? Can I say I'm in residence but just never be there?
- Doorkeeper
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I'd also love input on Comparative Constitutional Law from anyone that has experience with Jackson.
- ph14
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Why would you want to compare constitutions? We already have the best one ever.Doorkeeper wrote:I'd also love input on Comparative Constitutional Law from anyone that has experience with Jackson.
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- patogordo
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i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
- Doorkeeper
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Ugh. That's my main concern about the class. I've thus far been able to avoid any class with a large LLM contingent.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
How objectively horrible are they on a scale of getting to the free coffee as it's being taken away (low) to going to an event at lunch for the free food and the person in front of you on line takes the last food (stabby).
- patogordo
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90% of every class is insufferable anecdotes about some irrelevant constitutional crisis from three dictators ago in ecuadorDoorkeeper wrote:Ugh. That's my main concern about the class. I've thus far been able to avoid any class with a large LLM contingent.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
How objectively horrible are they on a scale of getting to the free coffee as it's being taken away (low) to going to an event at lunch for the free food and the person in front of you on line takes the last food (stabby).
- Mr. Elshal
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I'll second this. I'm in a class full of LLMs and this is exactly what happens.patogordo wrote:90% of every class is insufferable anecdotes about some irrelevant constitutional crisis from three dictators ago in ecuadorDoorkeeper wrote:Ugh. That's my main concern about the class. I've thus far been able to avoid any class with a large LLM contingent.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
How objectively horrible are they on a scale of getting to the free coffee as it's being taken away (low) to going to an event at lunch for the free food and the person in front of you on line takes the last food (stabby).
- BelugaWhale
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but aren't most LLM's barely literate and thus helps the curve?Mr. Elshal wrote:I'll second this. I'm in a class full of LLMs and this is exactly what happens.patogordo wrote:90% of every class is insufferable anecdotes about some irrelevant constitutional crisis from three dictators ago in ecuadorDoorkeeper wrote:Ugh. That's my main concern about the class. I've thus far been able to avoid any class with a large LLM contingent.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
How objectively horrible are they on a scale of getting to the free coffee as it's being taken away (low) to going to an event at lunch for the free food and the person in front of you on line takes the last food (stabby).
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- patogordo
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i think comparative/intl law classes are the exception. LLMs actually know a lot about comparative con law because they have a constitutional convention every 5 years when there's a military coup. plus the exam in that class is like "write 3000 words about con law" so it's not like they have to issue spot or anything.BelugaWhale wrote:but aren't most LLM's barely literate and thus helps the curve?Mr. Elshal wrote: I'll second this. I'm in a class full of LLMs and this is exactly what happens.
- Doorkeeper
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Oh fuck this bullshit. No way in hell that I'm going to suffer through that during my 3L year.Mr. Elshal wrote:I'll second this. I'm in a class full of LLMs and this is exactly what happens.patogordo wrote:90% of every class is insufferable anecdotes about some irrelevant constitutional crisis from three dictators ago in ecuadorDoorkeeper wrote:Ugh. That's my main concern about the class. I've thus far been able to avoid any class with a large LLM contingent.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
How objectively horrible are they on a scale of getting to the free coffee as it's being taken away (low) to going to an event at lunch for the free food and the person in front of you on line takes the last food (stabby).
*ranks Comparative Con Law last on my preferences*
On that note, I'm totally open to any 3-4 credit class suggestions if anyone has them. Bonus if I can do a paper option, there's no final exam, or the final exam isn't doctrinal.
- patogordo
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this isn't a 3-4 hour class but zarate's national security law class was awesome. it's 1 credit, meets 6 times, you write like two 2-page papers.
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Is Tushnet actually as bad as the reviews would suggest? For some reason I'm finding it hard to believe.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
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- HermioneG.
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Thanks for the input - I will put comparative con law at the bottom because that sounds like an annoying experience. I can also imagine Law and Psychology being really annoying (personal narratives/talking about feelings-wise) but I'm still tempted to take it. Privacy, Technology, and National Security sounds really interesting too though...I wish there were a better way for us to evaluate courses since it really comes down to the professor. 

- BelugaWhale
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though to be fair to those who want to sign up, the papers are single spaced (2 for midterm and 3 pages for final) and there is an absurd amount of reading for each classpatogordo wrote:this isn't a 3-4 hour class but zarate's national security law class was awesome. it's 1 credit, meets 6 times, you write like two 2-page papers.
- patogordo
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tushnet is a good professor imo (although a little hard to follow sometimes) and i thought it was a really interesting course, but the LLMs really do ruin it.tomwatts wrote:Is Tushnet actually as bad as the reviews would suggest? For some reason I'm finding it hard to believe.patogordo wrote:i took it with tushnet. decent class but beware it will be full of LLMs.
- patogordo
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yea but you're only on call (half of) one day.BelugaWhale wrote:though to be fair to those who want to sign up, the papers are single spaced (2 for midterm and 3 pages for final) and there is an absurd amount of reading for each classpatogordo wrote:this isn't a 3-4 hour class but zarate's national security law class was awesome. it's 1 credit, meets 6 times, you write like two 2-page papers.
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- BelugaWhale
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wait, are you telling me that you don't do readings if you know you won't get cold-called/are on call?patogordo wrote:yea but you're only on call (half of) one day.BelugaWhale wrote:though to be fair to those who want to sign up, the papers are single spaced (2 for midterm and 3 pages for final) and there is an absurd amount of reading for each classpatogordo wrote:this isn't a 3-4 hour class but zarate's national security law class was awesome. it's 1 credit, meets 6 times, you write like two 2-page papers.


- TripTrip
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I was going to make a sarcastic comment, but that's not really fair because I know there are plenty of people who really do all the assigned reading for every class.BelugaWhale wrote:wait, are you telling me that you don't do readings if you know you won't get cold-called/are on call?![]()
Rest assured that there are also plenty of students who do less than an hour of class prep, regardless of whether there is open cold-calling.
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- TripTrip
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Woops. I meant to limit my statement to 1Ls.acrossthelake wrote:There are people who do all the assigned readings for every class after 1L? Huh.
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