UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions Forum

[2014]

Random q: for ASW, do most admits stay with current students? On the one hand - not paying for a hotel, on the other - sounds really awkward. Or maybe that's just me.

It's like 50/50 and not that awkward. Most students have roommates and/or host multiple admits so there's plenty of built in social outlets. Plus students opt-in to hosting so you would think the most awkward of us would go ahead and keep our names out of the ring. I'd strongly suggest it, hotel isn't worth the money imo.

[middlebear]

Random q: for ASW, do most admits stay with current students? On the one hand - not paying for a hotel, on the other - sounds really awkward. Or maybe that's just me.

It's like 50/50 and not that awkward. Most students have roommates and/or host multiple admits so there's plenty of built in social outlets. Plus students opt-in to hosting so you would think the most awkward of us would go ahead and keep our names out of the ring. I'd strongly suggest it, hotel isn't worth the money imo.

Thanks for the info

[Canof09]

Random q: for ASW, do most admits stay with current students? On the one hand - not paying for a hotel, on the other - sounds really awkward. Or maybe that's just me.

It's like 50/50 and not that awkward. Most students have roommates and/or host multiple admits so there's plenty of built in social outlets. Plus students opt-in to hosting so you would think the most awkward of us would go ahead and keep our names out of the ring. I'd strongly suggest it, hotel isn't worth the money imo.

Thanks for the info

100% stay with a student. I promise that you will have a better time. Also it's free.

[lawschool2014hopeful]

Supplement rec Prof S's property class?

[Emma.]

Supplement rec Prof S's property class?

Probably just Sprankling's Understanding Property Law. But try To write in full sentences on the exam. Strahi liked that.

[lawschool2014hopeful]

Supplement rec Prof S's property class?

Probably just Sprankling's Understanding Property Law. But try To write in full sentences on the exam. Strahi liked that.

Great, thanks.

Sorry, after reading rules against perpetuities, brain is a bit fried.

[beepboopbeep]

Supplement rec Prof S's property class?

Probably just Sprankling's Understanding Property Law. But try To write in full sentences on the exam. Strahi liked that.

Seriously though. I lost a solid 5+ points for having typos and shit on an exam where the highest raw score was like... 89/110 or something, I think? Including a typo in the first word. Other classes, don't worry about that stuff. For S, reserve a good 5m at the end just for proofreading. Take that shit seriously.

[wsag826]

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I should've said that I want to do political law so DC is really the market for me, but I don't know if that makes a difference.

I really want to do a federal clerkship immediately after law school, and then go to a DC firm, which is one of the reasons I would pick Chicago over UVA. I've read that UVA has great placement, but I've also heard that their clerkship #s are boosted because of the number of students matched to conservative judges (and I'm not conservative). Chicago seems to have excellent clerkship placement. Of course, because clerkships are so hard to get, I wanted to gauge how yall feel about DC placement. If the clerkship thing doesn't work out, I would have no problem staying in Chicago or doing NYC.

But all of this sounds very encouraging! Just excited to have these choices to begin with.

Don't assume the "conservative boost" thing isn't true here as well. A ridiculous proportion of the "conservative" students here have clerkships lined up.

Yea, I was just going to say that. I mean other people definitely get them too, and get them in good places. But FedSoc has a big pipeline running through here.

Thanks to both of you. That definitely makes sense. I suppose I didn't really mean to say "conservative boost" but more so meant excluding clerkships with more ideologically conservative judges because I am not ideologically conservative.

One more Q for anyone willing to answer: do any of the "top" DC firms not recruit from Chicago? Or, for any of you who have gone through the OCI process and bid DC firms, do you feel like DC firms didn't take your applications/interviews as seriously because you were coming from Chicago and not a more regional school where they recruit heavily and/or east coast T14? Don't mean this in a negative way...just trying to cover all of my bases as I begin to make a very difficult decision.

[beepboopbeep]

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I should've said that I want to do political law so DC is really the market for me, but I don't know if that makes a difference.

I really want to do a federal clerkship immediately after law school, and then go to a DC firm, which is one of the reasons I would pick Chicago over UVA. I've read that UVA has great placement, but I've also heard that their clerkship #s are boosted because of the number of students matched to conservative judges (and I'm not conservative). Chicago seems to have excellent clerkship placement. Of course, because clerkships are so hard to get, I wanted to gauge how yall feel about DC placement. If the clerkship thing doesn't work out, I would have no problem staying in Chicago or doing NYC.

But all of this sounds very encouraging! Just excited to have these choices to begin with.

Don't assume the "conservative boost" thing isn't true here as well. A ridiculous proportion of the "conservative" students here have clerkships lined up.

Yea, I was just going to say that. I mean other people definitely get them too, and get them in good places. But FedSoc has a big pipeline running through here.

Thanks to both of you. That definitely makes sense. I suppose I didn't really mean to say "conservative boost" but more so meant excluding clerkships with more ideologically conservative judges because I am not ideologically conservative.

One more Q for anyone willing to answer: do any of the "top" DC firms not recruit from Chicago? Or, for any of you who have gone through the OCI process and bid DC firms, do you feel like DC firms didn't take your applications/interviews as seriously because you were coming from Chicago and not a more regional school where they recruit heavily and/or east coast T14? Don't mean this in a negative way...just trying to cover all of my bases as I begin to make a very difficult decision.

Not to just keep answering these and saying the same thing, but no. The top ones definitely come here and give people serious looks. Some niche places don't -- Wiley Rein comes to mind -- but even then you get the Axinns and Ivins and HWGs of the world coming to OCI (though I think Ivins cancelled last year, because basically no one signed up?). I'm not sure what the callback rate for some smaller DC offices were, or even for some places like Crowell & Moring where I didn't hear of a lot of other people getting CBs - it may be that because of our later OCI and/or geographic distance, they don't have as many callback slots for us. That's certainly possible. It didn't feel like they weren't taking applications seriously so much as: a lot of the people targeting DC had super impressive credentials, so standing out was an uphill battle, and there just were not a ton of callbacks available overall.

Feel free to pm - targeted DC primarily at last year's OCI, will be spending half my 2L summer there.

[03282016]

[UChicago2017]

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[IPmaybe]

Another question! How easy is it to take the business courses opened to all law students from the Doctoroff program (i.e., do they fill up quickly)? I'm really interested in gaining experience in the area, but I really don't know if I'm so totally dedicated to it that I'd try to participate in the Doctoroff program.

Thanks for any insight people have about the pros/cons of the program.

[RodneyRuxin]

How frequent are the fights in the linkedin group like the one I keep getting emails about?

We have a linkedin group?

[FlamingDragon]

How frequent are the fights in the linkedin group like the one I keep getting emails about?

We have a linkedin group?

The best fights are always on certain students who will not be named's facebook pages.

[03282016]

[saraea]

Another question! How easy is it to take the business courses opened to all law students from the Doctoroff program (i.e., do they fill up quickly)? I'm really interested in gaining experience in the area, but I really don't know if I'm so totally dedicated to it that I'd try to participate in the Doctoroff program.

Thanks for any insight people have about the pros/cons of the program.

I'm a former student, and it's pretty easy BUT there are certain classes that require prerequisites so pay attention. I sat through 2 weeks of a B school class before deciding I didn't have enough background to take the class. That said, they're totally worthwhile, and the downtown campus is beautiful.

[2014]

Someone TLDR me the linkedin fight drama, I feel left out. Will accept PMs if you want to keep it on the DL.

[elterrible78]

Someone TLDR me the linkedin fight drama, I feel left out. Will accept PMs if you want to keep it on the DL.

Pretty curious about this too.

[03282016]

[Mack.Hambleton]

PM'd

me2

[elterrible78]

PM'd

Thanks. TL;DR for everyone else who might be interested:

Old guys we have never met fight about Guantanamo.

[bearsfan23]

Another question! How easy is it to take the business courses opened to all law students from the Doctoroff program (i.e., do they fill up quickly)? I'm really interested in gaining experience in the area, but I really don't know if I'm so totally dedicated to it that I'd try to participate in the Doctoroff program.

Thanks for any insight people have about the pros/cons of the program.

I'm a former student, and it's pretty easy BUT there are certain classes that require prerequisites so pay attention. I sat through 2 weeks of a B school class before deciding I didn't have enough background to take the class. That said, they're totally worthwhile, and the downtown campus is beautiful.

We have a downtown campus? I had no idea I thought all the B-School stuff was in Hyde Park. Where in the city is it?

[03282016]

[elterrible78]

PM'd

Thanks. TL;DR for everyone else who might be interested:

Old guys we have never met fight about Guantanamo.

Okay, but the bit about the bible and the shotgun was particularly good.

Whatever blows your skirt up, man. I do appreciate you taking the time to PM the screenshots, though.

[Rahviveh]

Another question! How easy is it to take the business courses opened to all law students from the Doctoroff program (i.e., do they fill up quickly)? I'm really interested in gaining experience in the area, but I really don't know if I'm so totally dedicated to it that I'd try to participate in the Doctoroff program.

Thanks for any insight people have about the pros/cons of the program.

I'm a former student, and it's pretty easy BUT there are certain classes that require prerequisites so pay attention. I sat through 2 weeks of a B school class before deciding I didn't have enough background to take the class. That said, they're totally worthwhile, and the downtown campus is beautiful.

We have a downtown campus? I had no idea I thought all the B-School stuff was in Hyde Park. Where in the city is it?

the gleacher center. Most of the night classes are there. The doctoroff cross-listed classes taught at the law school shouldnt be too hard to get into. Regular booth classes at the bschool can be difficult to get and can mess up your schedule, meaning you may have to sacrifice your fridays or saturdays

There are several interesting, easy booth courses that have no prereqs as well.