Columbia students taking questions Forum

[john_brown]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

[smaug]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

i never read a case in corps and i don't think i made an outline. definitely didn't study for 4 days.

still got an a-. you'll be fine.

[jbagelboy]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

yea, several classes actually.

but I don't know how well that would work for the actually really difficult exams (evidence, corporations, admin, antitrust, sec reg, fed courts). it should work fine for others

[YCDAACH]

What do you all actually do during the 3 week orientation period? How much of that time is spent in the Legal Methods class?

[TheoO]

What do you all actually do during the 3 week orientation period? How much of that time is spent in the Legal Methods class?

Depends on who you get. One prof had two two hour sessions 5x/week(4?), with a few hours break. Another had just one two hour session 4/5 days a week. Can't remember too well. Either way, you shouldn't really be doing much work, if at all.

[TheoO]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

yea, several classes actually.

but I don't know how well that would work for the actually really difficult exams (evidence, corporations, admin, antitrust, sec reg, fed courts). it should work fine for others

Someone I know got an A- is evidence with about a weekend of study. But I figure a good chunk of that is because of the randomness of Schechtman's multiple choice exam.

[Nebby]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

Define success

[GreenEggs]

What do you all actually do during the 3 week orientation period? How much of that time is spent in the Legal Methods class?

While it does depend on the class, there's a lot of free time regardless. It's a pretty great opportunity to meet other law students, especially people in other sections. Expect to spend at least 2 hours (but probably 3) in class 5 days a week, plus some reading.

[White Dwarf]

Just got pulverized by Richman's Evidence exam. I felt confident going in, but that was brutal.

Anyone know what his curves tend to look like (in terms of what %-correct needed at each grade level)?

[jbagelboy]

Just got pulverized by Richman's Evidence exam. I felt confident going in, but that was brutal.

Anyone know what his curves tend to look like (in terms of what %-correct needed at each grade level)?

No idea exact %'s, but the curve is tight and you can miss a bunch of MCs and cop an A-. FWIW, everyone feels the same way after taking it and a third of them still manage to get honors range grades

[White Dwarf]

That's a (semi) relief. I can't imagine anyone being confident coming out of that.

I think my biggest mistake was studying section-by-section (ie. 803, then 804, then character evidence, then authentication, etc.) and doing practice questions that were specific only to one or two sections at once. When the problems are open-ended and can touch on everything at once, it's a different ballgame.

[jbagelboy]

That's a (semi) relief. I can't imagine anyone being confident coming out of that.

I think my biggest mistake was studying section-by-section (ie. 803, then 804, then character evidence, then authentication, etc.) and doing practice questions that were specific only to one or two sections at once. When the problems are open-ended and can touch on everything at once, it's a different ballgame.

you're a 1L right? yea that would have been stressful AF. the mistake was taking a difficult 4 class as your elective.

[almondjoy]

ya'll get that email about MGK leaving for Cardozo?

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

yea, several classes actually.

but I don't know how well that would work for the actually really difficult exams (evidence, corporations, admin, antitrust, sec reg, fed courts). it should work fine for others

Only once have I ever gotten better than a B+ on an exam I seriously studied for. I've gotten an A- or better about five times where I didn't seriously study.

I've gotten every grade from B- to A+ and the correlation with the amount of work I put into the class has basically been zero. So yeah, this is all somewhat random (not entirely, but somewhat) random.

[GoneSouth]

ya'll get that email about MGK leaving for Cardozo?

Yeah, rough

[freakingoutlalala]

For those who chose unfurnished housing from out of state, was it difficult finding furniture within a reasonable cost and in time?

[jbagelboy]

ya'll get that email about MGK leaving for Cardozo?

Yeah, rough

rough? for her or for us? its not exactly a loss for the students.

[jbagelboy]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

yea, several classes actually.

but I don't know how well that would work for the actually really difficult exams (evidence, corporations, admin, antitrust, sec reg, fed courts). it should work fine for others

Only once have I ever gotten better than a B+ on an exam I seriously studied for. I've gotten an A- or better about five times where I didn't seriously study.

I've gotten every grade from B- to A+ and the correlation with the amount of work I put into the class has basically been zero. So yeah, this is all somewhat random (not entirely, but somewhat) random.

you got an A+? damn bro

[GoneSouth]

ya'll get that email about MGK leaving for Cardozo?

Yeah, rough

rough? for her or for us? its not exactly a loss for the students.

I think we could do a lot worse than MGK. I hope that they are not looking internally for her replacement

[Nebby]

Just got pulverized by Richman's Evidence exam. I felt confident going in, but that was brutal.

Anyone know what his curves tend to look like (in terms of what %-correct needed at each grade level)?

No idea exact %'s, but the curve is tight and you can miss a bunch of MCs and cop an A-. FWIW, everyone feels the same way after taking it and a third of them still manage to get honors range grades

Unless you're a 3L. I walked outta that exam with zero stress

[GoneSouth]

Anyone else think Jackson's Corps exams today was much more difficult than the practice exams?

[Nebby]

That's a (semi) relief. I can't imagine anyone being confident coming out of that.

I think my biggest mistake was studying section-by-section (ie. 803, then 804, then character evidence, then authentication, etc.) and doing practice questions that were specific only to one or two sections at once. When the problems are open-ended and can touch on everything at once, it's a different ballgame.

There will be other classes that test in a similar manner (admin law, environmental law, fed courts), and I think the ability to prepare for these become easier the longer you progress as a student.

[almondjoy]

Anyone else think Jackson's Corps exams today was much more difficult than the practice exams?

I generally hate talking about exams after I take them but I do agree it seemed a bit tougher.

[TheoO]

Does anyone have any success stories of surviving an exam after a semester of minimal reading/attendance with about 4 days of uninterrupted study?

yea, several classes actually.

but I don't know how well that would work for the actually really difficult exams (evidence, corporations, admin, antitrust, sec reg, fed courts). it should work fine for others

Only once have I ever gotten better than a B+ on an exam I seriously studied for. I've gotten an A- or better about five times where I didn't seriously study.

I've gotten every grade from B- to A+ and the correlation with the amount of work I put into the class has basically been zero. So yeah, this is all somewhat random (not entirely, but somewhat) random.

you got an A+? damn bro

FWIW, Harcourt gives out A+ on the cheap when you do research work for him or do a paper. He also maxes out everything credit wise.

Take note 1Ls, especially those who want to try and "game" honors next year. Liebman also gives As for research work.

[TheoO]

ya'll get that email about MGK leaving for Cardozo?

Yeah, rough

rough? for her or for us? its not exactly a loss for the students.

I think we could do a lot worse than MGK. I hope that they are not looking internally for her replacement

What did she actually do?