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Post by Glasseyes » Tue May 24, 2016 8:49 am

Meanwhile the difference for ACLR would probably kill us all, jumping from, I dunno, 40 footnotes to 50 on average (fwiw I've had as many as 140).

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Post by BmoreOrLess » Tue May 24, 2016 6:37 pm

Glasseyes wrote:Meanwhile the difference for ACLR would probably kill us all, jumping from, I dunno, 40 footnotes to 50 on average (fwiw I've had as many as 140).
Lol. This, kids, is why you don't do ACLR. If I had to do that, not to mention that other BS publication you guys have to actually edit, I would probably be bitching as much as Capitol_idea.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by EzraFitz » Tue May 24, 2016 10:51 pm

All the cool (read: lazy) kids do TTL. The way to go.

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WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:People have mentioned that Main is a lot of work, ACLR is a ton of work, and TTL is chill. What do you know about other journals' workload? Thanks!
Ethics is comparatively light to ACLR/Main; most of the super minor journals are barely any work at all (I hear)

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by BmoreOrLess » Wed May 25, 2016 8:03 am

WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:People have mentioned that Main is a lot of work, ACLR is a ton of work, and TTL is chill. What do you know about other journals' workload? Thanks!
I was told during the write on process that the public policy journal is also chill.

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Post by Hand » Wed May 25, 2016 9:12 am

gazorpazorp wrote:It's really painful not being totally committed to a school at this point. Double-duty on the "potential housing" front.

Question: what is generally the cheapest possible housing arrangement (within a reasonable distance from the Law Center - preferably walking distance or very short metro ride)?

The on-campus housing doesn't seem so exorbitantly priced (at least for the 2 & 3 BR options) when considering the 9-month lease, electricity/cable/wifi included, the fact that it's furnished, etc.

Any suggestions from current students?
The cheapest option in Gewirz is $12,420 for 9 months, or $1,380 per month. Depending on your urban survival skills/fear of death, you can easily live for half that if you want. See, e.g., http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ ... 38778.html

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Post by Hand » Wed May 25, 2016 9:13 am

BmoreOrLess wrote:
WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:People have mentioned that Main is a lot of work, ACLR is a ton of work, and TTL is chill. What do you know about other journals' workload? Thanks!
I was told during the write on process that the public policy journal is also chill.
It has a political bent that, at least for some of us, is decidedly un-chill.

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Gray wrote:
If I didn't know better I'd think you were looking for a roommate
Do you think I would lie that brazenly about my age, were I to put up an ad like that? Yeah, you probably do, because I probably would. Either way, this link was of course purely for purposes of illustration; hence the use of the signal "see, e.g."

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by Hand » Wed May 25, 2016 3:14 pm

WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:
Hand wrote:
BmoreOrLess wrote:
WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:People have mentioned that Main is a lot of work, ACLR is a ton of work, and TTL is chill. What do you know about other journals' workload? Thanks!
I was told during the write on process that the public policy journal is also chill.
It has a political bent that, at least for some of us, is decidedly un-chill.
Hand, you don't want to join the conservative policy journal? Shocking. I figured you'd be gunning for a FedSoc leadership position from day one.
I'm just assuming that they wouldn't want me irrespective of what I want, given that I don't eat meat, have a foreign accent, and don't know how to handle firearms

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Post by Hand » Wed May 25, 2016 4:17 pm

gazorpazorp wrote:I'm now looking at a 150k scholarship from GULC (w/138k debt at repayment) vs. 90k from Michigan (w/174k debt-at-repayment).

If my primary goal is Philly or DC BigLaw, is the price right for GULC? I seem to be receiving an almost unanimous pro-Michigan response from TLS, even as my GULC scholarship keeps going up.

I want to believe that (approximately) median grades + strong Philly ties + good interviews would add up to a good shot at Philly BigLaw, but GULC's employment #'s just scare the crap out of me if I'm being honest.
Almost everyone ITT is attending with a smaller scholarship than what you've been offered. I have no idea whether anyone seeks to work in Philly Big Law, but I'm assuming a good number of people hope to get a big law job in DC, or have one lined up. These facts probably represent the best answer you're gonna get.

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gazorpazorp wrote:I'm now looking at a 150k scholarship from GULC (w/138k debt at repayment) vs. 90k from Michigan (w/174k debt-at-repayment).

If my primary goal is Philly or DC BigLaw, is the price right for GULC? I seem to be receiving an almost unanimous pro-Michigan response from TLS, even as my GULC scholarship keeps going up.

I want to believe that (approximately) median grades + strong Philly ties + good interviews would add up to a good shot at Philly BigLaw, but GULC's employment #'s just scare the crap out of me if I'm being honest.
Philly is harder to break into given that it's a smaller market (I have a family member who is in Philly BigLaw now). GULC does not really offer any advantages. Honestly if you want something approximating a minimal risk to not getting Philly, you want UPenn. If you are fairly comfortable with risk, you can go to one of the lower-ranked Philly schools at full scholly, but while you won't incur as much debt, your prospect for BigLaw are much lowered.

Biglaw outside NY is a fight with median grades at GULC. People get it, but many don't. If your heart is SET on DC or Philly, I'd be very cautious about GULC (although, as Hand rightly points out, that's a damn nice scholly you're looking at).

tl;dr - I'd be even MORE concerned about BigLaw than the general employment numbers for GULC suggest if you're dead set against NY.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by Londonbear » Wed May 25, 2016 10:16 pm

Capitol_Idea wrote:
gazorpazorp wrote:I'm now looking at a 150k scholarship from GULC (w/138k debt at repayment) vs. 90k from Michigan (w/174k debt-at-repayment).

If my primary goal is Philly or DC BigLaw, is the price right for GULC? I seem to be receiving an almost unanimous pro-Michigan response from TLS, even as my GULC scholarship keeps going up.

I want to believe that (approximately) median grades + strong Philly ties + good interviews would add up to a good shot at Philly BigLaw, but GULC's employment #'s just scare the crap out of me if I'm being honest.
Philly is harder to break into given that it's a smaller market (I have a family member who is in Philly BigLaw now). GULC does not really offer any advantages. Honestly if you want something approximating a minimal risk to not getting Philly, you want UPenn. If you are fairly comfortable with risk, you can go to one of the lower-ranked Philly schools at full scholly, but while you won't incur as much debt, your prospect for BigLaw are much lowered.

Biglaw outside NY is a fight with median grades at GULC. People get it, but many don't. If your heart is SET on DC or Philly, I'd be very cautious about GULC (although, as Hand rightly points out, that's a damn nice scholly you're looking at).

tl;dr - I'd be even MORE concerned about BigLaw than the general employment numbers for GULC suggest if you're dead set against NY.
I don't know if I agree completely if gazorpazorp is okay with DC. I think GULC has an advantage over Michigan for DC. From what I hear from NYU people, it is pretty difficult for them to get DC even with the grades, so I dunno about Michigan. I would think GULC places better than Michigan for DC, and especially with a $60K more in $ than Michigan. You are still going to need to do networking to build some connects if you don't have any, but since you will live in DC if you go to GULC, this would be easier to do. Philly I probably would agree with mostly (but still the 60K difference is quite a bit. However, I think Michigan is going to be a bit cheaper in COL so that should be a consideration as well) b/c it is a smaller market and generally you're better off coming from a higher ranked school.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

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Capitol_Idea wrote:
gazorpazorp wrote:I'm now looking at a 150k scholarship from GULC (w/138k debt at repayment) vs. 90k from Michigan (w/174k debt-at-repayment).

If my primary goal is Philly or DC BigLaw, is the price right for GULC? I seem to be receiving an almost unanimous pro-Michigan response from TLS, even as my GULC scholarship keeps going up.

I want to believe that (approximately) median grades + strong PhiMichigan + good interviews would add up to a good shot at Philly BigLaw, but GULC's employment #'s just scare the crap out of me if I'm being honest.
Philly is harder to break into given that it's a smaller market (I have a family member who is in Philly BigLaw now). GULC does not really offer any advantages. Honestly if you want something approximating a minimal risk to not getting Philly, you want UPenn. If you are fairly comfortable with risk, you can go to one of the lower-ranked Philly schools at full scholly, but while you won't incur as much debt, your prospect for BigLaw are much lowered.

Biglaw outside NY is a fight with median grades at GULC. People get it, but many don't. If your heart is SET on DC or Philly, I'd be very cautious about GULC (although, as Hand rightly points out, that's a damn nice scholly you're looking at).

tl;dr - I'd be even MORE concerned about BigLaw than the general employment numbers for GULC suggest if you're dead set against NY.
I don't know if I agree completely if gazorpazorp is okay with DC. I think GULC has an advantage over Michigan for DC. From what I hear from NYU people, it is pretty difficult for them to get DC even with the grades, so I dunno about Michigan. I would think GULC places better than Michigan for DC, and especially with a $60K more in $ than Michigan. You are still going to need to do networking to build some connects if you don't have any, but since you will live in DC if you go to GULC, this would be easier to do. Philly I probably would agree with mostly (but still the 60K difference is quite a bit. However, I think Michigan is going to be a bit cheaper in COL so that should be a consideration as well) b/c it is a smaller market and generally you're better off coming from a higher ranked school.
yeah I wasn't comparing GULC to Michigan - that's his choosing thread elsewhere. GULC is probably ahead of Michigan for DC Biglaw but that doesn't mean GULC is a safe choice for DC Biglaw.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by EzraFitz » Wed May 25, 2016 11:18 pm

All anecdata, but I always say this, I know from personal experiences and those of friends, that GULC can marginally help in the Philly/DE markets, particularly (but not only) for the fact that between 8-10 philly/de firms come to february oci.

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February OCI is sucha joke though, it shouldn't even be called any kind of OCI.

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WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:Thanks, Capitol & BMore.

Outside of GLJ, do employers (firms, sure, but also fedgov and judges) care at all which secondary journal you're on?
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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Post by Hand » Thu May 26, 2016 5:40 pm

Have any of the 1L elective grades gone out yet? It sure would be nice if someone put it a little effort to break the mortal tedium of write on

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