GULC Students Taking Questions Forum

[Londonbear]

Section 3 is interesting. I think they attract certain types of students to the curriculum, maybe more intense and focused students (but you're going to get a decent number of intense and focused students regardless of what sections). I do remember seeing a few of them at firm social events during 1L and I think the mentality is it is rare to want biglaw in their section.

As for Glasseyes interview comments, I would be careful in interviews because I had a couple of interviewers that came from section 3, so stay neutral regardless of whatever you may think later on.

Overall though I don't think it makes a big difference. I didn't feel I was missing out on anything by not being in Section 3 (although I hear that they have more reading in general- that I definitely would not care for), and I don't think anyone from Section 3 thought they were missing out on anything either. Class sizes are generally quite big (100-120), except for the 2 classes (LRW and one of the doctrinal classes in your first semester) that you'll have around 30 ppl in, so you can usually just sit back and never have to say anything unless you get called on. I've had to actually speak more in class after my 1L than all during 1L.

[Glasseyes]

As for Glasseyes interview comments, I would be careful in interviews because I had a couple of interviewers that came from section 3, so stay neutral regardless of whatever you may think later on.

Oh, completely agreed. No matter who goads you into shittalking in an interview, don't do it. Could be a trap. I just laughed along with the interviewers and kept it diplomatic otherwise.

[JuliusCaesar]

Section 3 is self-selected right? Definitely don't want to be forced into something that could affect me negatively whether in an extremely small manner or not.

[Gray]

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[TLSModBot]

Section 3 is self-selected right? Definitely don't want to be forced into something that could affect me negatively whether in an extremely small manner or not.

yeah it is don't worry.

Yeah the GULC sorting hat takes your preference into consideration. It's rare to not want Section 3 and still get placed there.

[Glasseyes]

There's usually a waiting list to get INTO section 3, so I doubt you'd have any issue. Honestly, despite what I said earlier, no one would necessarily know you were in Section 3 unless you tell them, and if you somehow got stuck in there you have an easy explanation come OCI. I suspect it came up at my screeners because i interviewed exclusively for DC, where they're used to getting tons of GULC applicants, and more often than not the interviewers were GULC alumni.

[Londonbear]

Anybody w/experience in a clinic that doesn't mind sharing? Particularly how much time does it usual require a week on average?

[gtown1212]

Anybody w/experience in a clinic that doesn't mind sharing? Particularly how much time does it usual require a week on average?

they vary. which clinic?

[Londonbear]

Anybody w/experience in a clinic that doesn't mind sharing? Particularly how much time does it usual require a week on average?

they vary. which clinic?

Social Enterprise

[buckiguy_sucks]

Are grades released the same way as last semester if so why that's dumb

[TLSModBot]

Are grades released the same way as last semester if so why that's dumb

They go back and forth. Sometimes grades are released as they're ready, and when everyone complains of that system, they switch to releasing all at once, until the complaints on that ramp up.

[Londonbear]

Are grades released the same way as last semester if so why that's dumb

They go back and forth. Sometimes grades are released as they're ready, and when everyone complains of that system, they switch to releasing all at once, until the complaints on that ramp up.

I thought grades are released all at the same time only for 1Ls? After that, it's released when they get them.

[EzraFitz]

Are grades released the same way as last semester if so why that's dumb

They go back and forth. Sometimes grades are released as they're ready, and when everyone complains of that system, they switch to releasing all at once, until the complaints on that ramp up.

I thought grades are released all at the same time only for 1Ls? After that, it's released when they get them.

This is correct. And for 1Ls it's not even all at the same time. It is when all sections for a particular class have been turned in. So once all Con Law professors have turned in grades, and they are verified, all Con Law grades get released. This is why 1L elective grades pop out so fast, fewer sections. As for 2L/3L grades, it all depends on if the professor is quick or lazy, nothing else.

[TLSModBot]

Are grades released the same way as last semester if so why that's dumb

They go back and forth. Sometimes grades are released as they're ready, and when everyone complains of that system, they switch to releasing all at once, until the complaints on that ramp up.

I thought grades are released all at the same time only for 1Ls? After that, it's released when they get them.

Maybe that's the current system. I recall our student reps trumpeting how grades would be released as we get them going forward back in 2012, and that some then-3Ls mentioned that the system had been that way before it was switched to an all-at-once, and I stopped paying attention to what happened after 1L because lol grades.

[Glasseyes]

Supposedly if you're in classes with 3Ls those classes have earlier deadlines so kids can graduate. So this doesn't apply to 1Ls obviously but woo for being a 2L

[de minimis]

Are grades released the same way as last semester if so why that's dumb

They go back and forth. Sometimes grades are released as they're ready, and when everyone complains of that system, they switch to releasing all at once, until the complaints on that ramp up.

I thought grades are released all at the same time only for 1Ls? After that, it's released when they get them.

This is correct. And for 1Ls it's not even all at the same time. It is when all sections for a particular class have been turned in. So once all Con Law professors have turned in grades, and they are verified, all Con Law grades get released. This is why 1L elective grades pop out so fast, fewer sections. As for 2L/3L grades, it all depends on if the professor is quick or lazy, nothing else.

2L/3L grades are still held back until all sections have been submitted.

[BmoreOrLess]

Not that it's a big deal, but I'd love to hear the rationale for this method. Like make sure one curve's not significantly different than the other even though they won't do shit?

[de minimis]

Not that it's a big deal, but I'd love to hear the rationale for this method. Like make sure one curve's not significantly different than the other even though they won't do shit?

Gives the registrar another opportunity to make things worse for us.

[Londonbear]

I already have one grade from one of my classes. So that can't be true that it's held back.

Also from previous email:

Fall 2015 Grades: Fall 2015 grades deadline was noon on Friday, January 15, 2016. However, the three-day grace period ended at 9:00 am today (Tuesday, January 19, 2016). Upperclass grades are being posted on MyAccess as they are received and reviewed.

[de minimis]

I already have one grade from one of my classes. So that can't be true that it's held back.

Do you know other people who took the same class with a different professor but don't have a grade yet? I have grades back too, but they're only taught by one professor.

[Glasseyes]

I already have one grade from one of my classes. So that can't be true that it's held back.

Do you know other people who took the same class with a different professor but don't have a grade yet? I have grades back too, but they're only taught by one professor.

Yeah I gather we're more likely to get the grades for dinky little electives back before the big doctrinals like corps or evidence. And yet my 1L crim grade was like 2 weeks before the deadline, so who the hell knows anything about anything

[TLSModBot]

Not that it's a big deal, but I'd love to hear the rationale for this method. Like make sure one curve's not significantly different than the other even though they won't do shit?

Gives the registrar another opportunity to make things worse for us.

It's more administration policies than the registrar - those guys are massively overworked and understaffed (and not allowed to hire more).

[Glasseyes]

Not that it's a big deal, but I'd love to hear the rationale for this method. Like make sure one curve's not significantly different than the other even though they won't do shit?

Gives the registrar another opportunity to make things worse for us.

It's more administration policies than the registrar - those guys are massively overworked and understaffed (and not allowed to hire more).

That's like defending the prison guards who routinely beat you, saying "nah, it's cuz the warden doesn't give them time and a half"

[TLSModBot]

Not that it's a big deal, but I'd love to hear the rationale for this method. Like make sure one curve's not significantly different than the other even though they won't do shit?

Gives the registrar another opportunity to make things worse for us.

It's more administration policies than the registrar - those guys are massively overworked and understaffed (and not allowed to hire more).

That's like defending the prison guards who routinely beat you, saying "nah, it's cuz the warden doesn't give them time and a half"

Nah. Don't get me wrong, GULC is plagued with incompetence at the admin, faculty, and staff level, but the registrar is literally like 5 people, of which 2 were on maternity leave last year. All told, the grades come out and classes get registered and they deal with all the complaining/freaking out students in the interim.

If you want to be mad at someone about your grades, be mad at the professors who have, what, 4-6 weeks to grade and then STILL take the 3 days grace period plus whatever they feel like because what the fuck are you gonna do about it?

[EzraFitz]

I already have one grade from one of my classes. So that can't be true that it's held back.

Do you know other people who took the same class with a different professor but don't have a grade yet? I have grades back too, but they're only taught by one professor.

Yeah, I know of one person in a class who has their grade, and another in a different section of the same class who doesn't. They only hold back 1L grades. But yeah, GULC's registrar is like try to empty the water out of a sinking boat with Dixie cups. They'll get the job done, but they're ill equipped to handle the volume they have to.