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Re: Bancroft

Post by Mack.Hambleton » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:41 pm

How did that case western grad get hired

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Re: Bancroft

Post by bearsfan23 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:01 pm

JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
Qualification 1 will be the hurdle. Qualification 2 will be a breeze( I am as far to the right as you can get, and as I have said I am a conservative High Anglican)
If you guys want to understand my political views, look up the Constitution Party, and look at thier platform.
Assuming you're being serious, which I kind've doubt, I don't think you really understand what qualification 2 entails.

Being a "religious conservative" is not enough. 95% of religious conservatives are far too moderate for a place like Bancroft. To fit in at Bancroft, you have to not only believe the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy, but you have to also be strongly against things like racial equality and equal rights for women.

True, Bancroft employs some extremely attorneys. However, ISIS also employs some extremely talented fighters. Don't equate having religious conservative beliefs with being enough to be what Bancroft is looking for.

As for actual advice on getting hired there...lookup the Blackstone Legal Fellowship. Bancroft doesn't have a traditional summer program, but I know someone who worked there their 1L summer through this fellowship

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Re: Bancroft

Post by ResolutePear » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:06 pm

JDJohnP21 wrote:ResolutePear
By all means, continue to mock me. I may not make Bancroft, but whatever happens I KNOW I will succeed in life. People have mocked me before ( stupid public school teachers told me I'd never get into private school because of my sight) Well not only did I get in, but I also got a half tuition scholarship. The public schools were wrong, and I laugh whenever I think about it.
I was being serious. What? Are you saying that would never happen with me?

How dare you, sir! How dare you?

I'll have you know that there's a place on the moon for me. You just wait and see. You're but just another person who doubted me... mocked me, because I was too fat to fly. It's like pilot school, how everybody said I'd never be able to take off. Well, I proved them wrong after paying up enough tuition. They were wrong, and so are you!

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Re: Bancroft

Post by JustHawkin » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:06 pm

ResolutePear wrote:
I'll have you know that there's a place on the moon for me. You just wait and see. You're but just another person who doubted me... mocked me, because I was too fat to fly. It's like pilot school, how everybody said I'd never be able to take off. Well, I proved them wrong after paying up enough tuition. They were wrong, and so are you!
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Re: Bancroft

Post by jbagelboy » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:38 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
Qualification 1 will be the hurdle. Qualification 2 will be a breeze( I am as far to the right as you can get, and as I have said I am a conservative High Anglican)
If you guys want to understand my political views, look up the Constitution Party, and look at thier platform.
Assuming you're being serious, which I kind've doubt, I don't think you really understand what qualification 2 entails.

Being a "religious conservative" is not enough. 95% of religious conservatives are far too moderate for a place like Bancroft. To fit in at Bancroft, you have to not only believe the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy, but you have to also be strongly against things like racial equality and equal rights for women.

True, Bancroft employs some extremely attorneys. However, ISIS also employs some extremely talented fighters. Don't equate having religious conservative beliefs with being enough to be what Bancroft is looking for.

As for actual advice on getting hired there...lookup the Blackstone Legal Fellowship. Bancroft doesn't have a traditional summer program, but I know someone who worked there their 1L summer through this fellowship
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Re: Bancroft

Post by UnicornHunter » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:44 pm

If you want to understand JDJohn's religious views, watch this video.

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Re: Bancroft

Post by 84651846190 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:02 pm

I love threads like this.

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Post by JDJohnP21 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:57 am

Bearsfan23
You are an absolute fool. This is how Liberals attack anyone who doesn't agree with them. The FOUNDER of Bancroft is Asian, and there is a WOMEN partner. Give me one shread of proof that would validate your comment. The great Michael Savage has said "Liberalism is a mental disorder"

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Re: Bancroft

Post by polareagle » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:49 am

JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
You are an absolute fool. This is how Liberals attack anyone who doesn't agree with them. The FOUNDER of Bancroft is Asian, and there is a WOMEN partner. Give me one shread of proof that would validate your comment. The great Michael Savage has said "Liberalism is a mental disorder"
Pro tip: When you make an appeal to authority by quoting someone as "the great" and suggesting that what they said ends an argument, you'd better be sure people actually know who you're talking about and universally respect him/her. Think, like, George Washington or (in another time) Walter Cronkite if you're going to make an unqualified statement of a broad nature. Your example fails at least the first count, and I'm not in a position to evaluate the second count because, again, never heard of him.

[For example, I could drop some Ta-Nehisi Coates quotes in here right now, even call him "the great"--after all, I think he is--but I'm under no pretense that it would actually end any argument because most Americans have no idea who that is, and many of those who do have nothing but contempt for what he says.]

Not meant to be an attack, just trying to help you sharpen your rhetoric.

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Re: Bancroft

Post by BigZuck » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:04 am

WheatThins wrote:It's a firm with like 15 lawyers, who all have the credentials that resemble this guy:

Good luck!


Zachary Hudson
D. Zachary Hudson is counsel at Bancroft PLLC. Mr. Hudson previously served as a law clerk to Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., in the Supreme Court of the United States and Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

Mr. Hudson’s practice focuses on appellate litigation and strategic counseling, and spans a wide range of legal fields. Since joining Bancroft, he has argued cases in the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the First, Second, Seventh, Ninth, and D.C. Circuits and briefed cases in the U.S. Supreme Court and the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, Eleventh, D.C., and Federal Circuits. He has also drafted submissions to the Department of Treasury, Patent and Trademark Office, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission, U.S. International Trade Commission, and to the Office of the Solicitor General. Mr. Hudson also has experience coordinating complex litigation in the federal district courts and negotiating with domestic and foreign government entities.

Mr. Hudson graduated from Yale Law School, where he served as the Managing Editor of The Yale Law Journal and an Articles Editor on the Yale Law and Policy Review. He received his bachelor of science with honors from the United States Naval Academy, where he was selected as a Truman Scholar and Secretary of the Navy Distinguished Scholar, and his master of public policy from Georgetown University.

Before attending Yale, Mr. Hudson served as an engineering officer on the USS Santa Fe, a nuclear-powered fast attack submarine. He oversaw the training and management of a department of more than 60 personnel in charge of the safe operation of the submarine’s nuclear reactor. He also served in tactical positions on the submarine where he completed duties integral to the success of several missions vital to national security and briefed at the presidential level. Mr. Hudson received numerous awards for his military service, including the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals, and the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal.

Mr. Hudson has published several scholarly works addressing issues of constitutional law and statutory interpretation. Those works include Eminent Domain Due Process, 119 Yale L.J. 1280, A Case for Varying Interpretive Deference at the State Level, 119 Yale L.J. 373, and Interpreting the Products of Direct Democracy, 28 Yale L. & Pol’y Rev. 223.

An Ohio native, Mr. Hudson is admitted to the bar of the State of Ohio and the District of Columbia.
Does "counsel" mean this guy wasn't quite good enough to make partner?

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Re: Bancroft

Post by Vursz » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:00 am

bearsfan23 wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
Qualification 1 will be the hurdle. Qualification 2 will be a breeze( I am as far to the right as you can get, and as I have said I am a conservative High Anglican)
If you guys want to understand my political views, look up the Constitution Party, and look at thier platform.
Assuming you're being serious, which I kind've doubt, I don't think you really understand what qualification 2 entails.

Being a "religious conservative" is not enough. 95% of religious conservatives are far too moderate for a place like Bancroft. To fit in at Bancroft, you have to not only believe the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy, but you have to also be strongly against things like racial equality and equal rights for women.

True, Bancroft employs some extremely attorneys. However, ISIS also employs some extremely talented fighters. Don't equate having religious conservative beliefs with being enough to be what Bancroft is looking for.

As for actual advice on getting hired there...lookup the Blackstone Legal Fellowship. Bancroft doesn't have a traditional summer program, but I know someone who worked there their 1L summer through this fellowship
I personally know *many* people (law students and attorneys) who have worked at Bancroft, and this is gratuitous nonsense. The firm is a sponsor of the American Constitution Society, for heaven's sake. I also have nonreligious friends who have worked there.

It's an appellate lit boutique that does, well, the things a lit boutique does. "Theocracy" is pure blather.

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Re: Bancroft

Post by ResolutePear » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:47 am

Vursz wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
Qualification 1 will be the hurdle. Qualification 2 will be a breeze( I am as far to the right as you can get, and as I have said I am a conservative High Anglican)
If you guys want to understand my political views, look up the Constitution Party, and look at thier platform.
Assuming you're being serious, which I kind've doubt, I don't think you really understand what qualification 2 entails.

Being a "religious conservative" is not enough. 95% of religious conservatives are far too moderate for a place like Bancroft. To fit in at Bancroft, you have to not only believe the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy, but you have to also be strongly against things like racial equality and equal rights for women.

True, Bancroft employs some extremely attorneys. However, ISIS also employs some extremely talented fighters. Don't equate having religious conservative beliefs with being enough to be what Bancroft is looking for.

As for actual advice on getting hired there...lookup the Blackstone Legal Fellowship. Bancroft doesn't have a traditional summer program, but I know someone who worked there their 1L summer through this fellowship
I personally know *many* people (law students and attorneys) who have worked at Bancroft, and this is gratuitous nonsense. The firm is a sponsor of the American Constitution Society, for heaven's sake. I also have nonreligious friends who have worked there.

It's an appellate lit boutique that does, well, the things a lit boutique does. "Theocracy" is pure blather.
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Re: Bancroft

Post by bearsfan23 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:53 am

Vursz wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
Qualification 1 will be the hurdle. Qualification 2 will be a breeze( I am as far to the right as you can get, and as I have said I am a conservative High Anglican)
If you guys want to understand my political views, look up the Constitution Party, and look at thier platform.
Assuming you're being serious, which I kind've doubt, I don't think you really understand what qualification 2 entails.

Being a "religious conservative" is not enough. 95% of religious conservatives are far too moderate for a place like Bancroft. To fit in at Bancroft, you have to not only believe the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy, but you have to also be strongly against things like racial equality and equal rights for women.

True, Bancroft employs some extremely attorneys. However, ISIS also employs some extremely talented fighters. Don't equate having religious conservative beliefs with being enough to be what Bancroft is looking for.

As for actual advice on getting hired there...lookup the Blackstone Legal Fellowship. Bancroft doesn't have a traditional summer program, but I know someone who worked there their 1L summer through this fellowship
I personally know *many* people (law students and attorneys) who have worked at Bancroft, and this is gratuitous nonsense. The firm is a sponsor of the American Constitution Society, for heaven's sake. I also have nonreligious friends who have worked there.

It's an appellate lit boutique that does, well, the things a lit boutique does. "Theocracy" is pure blather.
Considering Bancroft only has like 12 attorneys and no summer program, I'm sure you don't know "many" people that have worked there.

And Bancroft is not just an appellate lit boutique, it's probably the "go-to" shop for the religious right, see

http://www.americanlawyer.com/id=120257 ... 0728114656

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Re: Bancroft

Post by Vursz » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:05 pm

Nothing in that article supports your (unfounded and hand-wringing) claim that it's the Religious Right's "go-to" firm. They were brought on as appellate counsel in Hobby Lobby and Windsor, sure; a couple of high-profile controversial cases do not a theocracy make.

As someone who (I guarantee) knows more Bancroft attorneys, former summers, and members of the "religious right" than you do, I can observe that the religious right largely likes to keep things in-house (its own nonprofit network).

But think what you will. As a matter of principle, I tend to think even views I don't agree with are entitled to good legal representation, without accusing the advocates/their corporate entity of seeking to institutionalize those same views.

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Post by bearsfan23 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:15 pm

Vursz wrote:Nothing in that article supports your (unfounded and hand-wringing) claim that it's the Religious Right's "go-to" firm. They were brought on as appellate counsel in Hobby Lobby and Windsor, sure; a couple of high-profile controversial cases do not a theocracy make.

As someone who (I guarantee) knows more Bancroft attorneys, former summers, and members of the "religious right" than you do, I can observe that the religious right largely likes to keep things in-house (its own nonprofit network).

But think what you will. As a matter of principle, I tend to think even views I don't agree with are entitled to good legal representation, without accusing the advocates/their corporate entity of seeking to institutionalize those same views.
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Post by lymenheimer » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:26 pm

JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
You are an absolute fool. This is how Liberals attack anyone who doesn't agree with them. The FOUNDER of Bancroft is Asian, and there is a WOMEN partner. Give me one shread of proof that would validate your comment. The great Michael Savage has said "Liberalism is a mental disorder"
JDJohnP21 wrote: a WOMEN partner
JDJohnP21 wrote: a WOMEN partner
chuckbass wrote: Ding.

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Re: Bancroft

Post by kalvano » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:01 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:
Vursz wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Bearsfan23
Qualification 1 will be the hurdle. Qualification 2 will be a breeze( I am as far to the right as you can get, and as I have said I am a conservative High Anglican)
If you guys want to understand my political views, look up the Constitution Party, and look at thier platform.
Assuming you're being serious, which I kind've doubt, I don't think you really understand what qualification 2 entails.

Being a "religious conservative" is not enough. 95% of religious conservatives are far too moderate for a place like Bancroft. To fit in at Bancroft, you have to not only believe the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy, but you have to also be strongly against things like racial equality and equal rights for women.

True, Bancroft employs some extremely attorneys. However, ISIS also employs some extremely talented fighters. Don't equate having religious conservative beliefs with being enough to be what Bancroft is looking for.

As for actual advice on getting hired there...lookup the Blackstone Legal Fellowship. Bancroft doesn't have a traditional summer program, but I know someone who worked there their 1L summer through this fellowship
I personally know *many* people (law students and attorneys) who have worked at Bancroft, and this is gratuitous nonsense. The firm is a sponsor of the American Constitution Society, for heaven's sake. I also have nonreligious friends who have worked there.

It's an appellate lit boutique that does, well, the things a lit boutique does. "Theocracy" is pure blather.
Considering Bancroft only has like 12 attorneys and no summer program, I'm sure you don't know "many" people that have worked there.

And Bancroft is not just an appellate lit boutique, it's probably the "go-to" shop for the religious right, see

http://www.americanlawyer.com/id=120257 ... 0728114656
In all fairness, any elite boutique with exceptional lawyers that are well versed in high-profile cases will be a "go to" shop for lots of clients needing representation in that area simply due to their expertise. They don't have to have any personal beliefs or stake in the case whatsoever to effectively represent their client and to rake in the fees.

If you're looking for an appellate shop with experience in high-profile controversial cases that are going up to the Supreme Court, your options are somewhat limited.

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Re: Bancroft

Post by gnomgnomuch » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:58 pm

JDJohnP21 wrote:Guys, Does HYS respect good UK universities? Along with my US options, I am very interested in Durham and St. Andrews.
Just throwing this out here, but both Durham and Andrews are the lower rung of the 'good' UK universities. I say this as a current grad student in Edinburgh.

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Post by BigZuck » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:59 pm

gnomgnomuch wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Guys, Does HYS respect good UK universities? Along with my US options, I am very interested in Durham and St. Andrews.
Just throwing this out here, but both Durham and Andrews are the lower rung of the 'good' UK universities. I say this as a current grad student in Edinburgh.
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Post by gnomgnomuch » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:03 pm

BigZuck wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:
JDJohnP21 wrote:Guys, Does HYS respect good UK universities? Along with my US options, I am very interested in Durham and St. Andrews.
Just throwing this out here, but both Durham and Andrews are the lower rung of the 'good' UK universities. I say this as a current grad student in Edinburgh.
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I've been going through this guys post history and I'm starting to believe that he's just a very elaborate troll.

...not unlike how Trump and Clinton are colluding to steal the presidency for Clinton. (is that good enough bait?)

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Post by abl » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:46 pm

I know a pretty outspoken liberal who was recently hired at Bancroft.

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