Splurge on a laptop? Forum

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:35 pm

Dafaq wrote:Lenovo is the rage. Everyone I know who has one loves it. Asus is the pits according to a few people I know who got sucked into buying one (cheap monitor goes blank)…it is a Best Buy brand so beware when the salesperson tries to hustle you one.

I came to LS with a Vaio and never had a problem so I have resisted buying a new one for just the fun of it. But when the day comes for a change, probably will strongly consider Lenovo.

Are you sure you don't mean ACER? Asus has historically good build quality and definitely isn't a BB brand. But niether is ACER.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:53 pm

Dafaq wrote:Lenovo is the rage. Everyone I know who has one loves it. Asus is the pits according to a few people I know who got sucked into buying one (cheap monitor goes blank)…it is a Best Buy brand so beware when the salesperson tries to hustle you one.

I came to LS with a Vaio and never had a problem so I have resisted buying a new one for just the fun of it. But when the day comes for a change, probably will strongly consider Lenovo.

as df suggested, you clearly have asus mixed up with another company

Dafaq · Post by **Dafaq** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:00 pm

The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:06 pm

Dafaq wrote:The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS

1) it's not a best buy brand
2) asus has the lowest failure rate of any computer manufacturer

failure rate:
Asus: 15.6%
Toshiba: 15.7%
Sony: 16.8%
Apple: 17.4%
Dell: 18.3%
Lenovo: 21.5%
Acer: 23.3%
Gateway: 23.5%
HP: 25.6%
source: http://www.statisticbrain.com/laptop-malfunction-rates

mt2165 · Post by **mt2165** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:07 pm

Dafaq wrote:The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS

Yeah we get that but Asus is pretty good, I mean if he bought a budget laptop and has had it for 2+ years they all kinda suck and get glitchy. But I will say that I've heard all good things about Lenovo, productivity wise. I also just wish chrome os was further along so it had greater compatibility with different file types and compatibility at all with external software like itunes, Photoshop, obv microsoft office (although kinda unnecessary nowadays). If they made a 500-600 dollar chromebook with a full HD screen, 64-128 gig SSD and a decently built aluminum chassis....my god.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:16 pm

mt2165 wrote:
Dafaq wrote:The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS
Yeah we get that but Asus is pretty good, I mean if he bought a budget laptop and has had it for 2+ years they all kinda suck and get glitchy. But I will say that I've heard all good things about Lenovo, productivity wise. I also just wish chrome os was further along so it had greater compatibility with different file types and compatibility at all with external software like itunes, Photoshop, obv microsoft office (although kinda unnecessary nowadays). If they made a 500-600 dollar chromebook with a full HD screen, 64-128 gig SSD and a decently built aluminum chassis....my god.

how was the chromebook experience generally

Dafaq · Post by **Dafaq** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:27 pm

The only cohorts I know who complained about their laptop were ASUS users. The problem was mainly about the screen (even after ASUS had reportedly fixed it) or the keyboard. If yours works, you probably love it.

As a side note, only one other person in my class used a Vaio and by far the large majority used Macs….toward the end of the year I saw a couple folks with a Lenovo.

BTW: I like my Vaio because of no shop time....but the battery life sux (it is a model from a few years back).

mt2165 · Post by **mt2165** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:35 pm

Brut wrote:
mt2165 wrote:
Dafaq wrote:The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS
Yeah we get that but Asus is pretty good, I mean if he bought a budget laptop and has had it for 2+ years they all kinda suck and get glitchy. But I will say that I've heard all good things about Lenovo, productivity wise. I also just wish chrome os was further along so it had greater compatibility with different file types and compatibility at all with external software like itunes, Photoshop, obv microsoft office (although kinda unnecessary nowadays). If they made a 500-600 dollar chromebook with a full HD screen, 64-128 gig SSD and a decently built aluminum chassis....my god.
how was the chromebook experience generally

Its actaully pretty cool. Upsides: theyre really portable, quick to boot, and can generally do everything the average consumer needs so exit gamers, video editors, etc. I mean most of what I do is browse, stream, and relatively light word processing. So for the money you get small slim laptop that does most of what you need and has good battery life. Downsides: its underpowered insofar as anything ram demanding is going to push it to its limits and means you'll have to reload tabs, not to mention the ones on mobile processor platforms really lag in intensive tasks like multiple video streams, downloads, etc. The screens are generally shit, some better than the others, but with the exception of pixel and samsung 2 all 720p and mediocre. Some have solid plastic build, some have less solid plastic build. Things that suck though, compatibility issues. You can only really use googles productivity platform i.e google docs, spreadsheets etc, and you cant edit office docs or slides. You also cant download any external software, which is huge with anyone who does anything sem-substantial with their computers which to be fair isnt that many people. Honestly what gets it is just the lack of compatibility and just not being a even midscale build, but def a lot of potential.

johnnyquest · Post by **johnnyquest** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:41 pm

Dafaq wrote:The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS

This evidence seems.... wait for it......

anecdotal

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:01 pm

Dafaq wrote:The only cohorts I know who complained about their laptop were ASUS users. The problem was mainly about the screen (even after ASUS had reportedly fixed it) or the keyboard. If yours works, you probably love it.

see i have no problem with you contributing an anecdote
but your point is to deter people from buying from a certain brand bc you have a couple friends who had a bad experience with it
and that's stupid
we have actual data from actual studies on laptop reliability, we don't need to guess

squaretrade ranks asus the number one most reliable laptop brand out of nine
http://www.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109/

pcadvisor ranks asus 3rd of 13 computer manufacturers in reliability
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/buying-advic ... -revealed/

pcworld ranks asus 4th out of 17 in reliability
http://www.pcworld.com/article/244419/l ... _rule.html

and as an overall ranking of laptop brands, pcmag has asus tied for second
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2415494,00.asp

asus is a very reliable brand with good build quality for its price range and your argument is silly

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:10 pm

mt2165 wrote:
Brut wrote:
mt2165 wrote:
Dafaq wrote:The things I do for clarity… I just phoned a friend about the brand name of that piece of crap computer he complained incessantly about because it was always in the shop…. his answer was…

wait for it…..

ASUS
Yeah we get that but Asus is pretty good, I mean if he bought a budget laptop and has had it for 2+ years they all kinda suck and get glitchy. But I will say that I've heard all good things about Lenovo, productivity wise. I also just wish chrome os was further along so it had greater compatibility with different file types and compatibility at all with external software like itunes, Photoshop, obv microsoft office (although kinda unnecessary nowadays). If they made a 500-600 dollar chromebook with a full HD screen, 64-128 gig SSD and a decently built aluminum chassis....my god.
how was the chromebook experience generally
Its actaully pretty cool. Upsides: theyre really portable, quick to boot, and can generally do everything the average consumer needs so exit gamers, video editors, etc. I mean most of what I do is browse, stream, and relatively light word processing. So for the money you get small slim laptop that does most of what you need and has good battery life. Downsides: its underpowered insofar as anything ram demanding is going to push it to its limits and means you'll have to reload tabs, not to mention the ones on mobile processor platforms really lag in intensive tasks like multiple video streams, downloads, etc. The screens are generally shit, some better than the others, but with the exception of pixel and samsung 2 all 720p and mediocre. Some have solid plastic build, some have less solid plastic build. Things that suck though, compatibility issues. You can only really use googles productivity platform i.e google docs, spreadsheets etc, and you cant edit office docs or slides. You also cant download any external software, which is huge with anyone who does anything sem-substantial with their computers which to be fair isnt that many people. Honestly what gets it is just the lack of compatibility and just not being a even midscale build, but def a lot of potential.

hmm interesting
sounds like chrome os starts looking more appealing in a few years when more apps move to the cloud, more devs, more mid-range options
also i have shitty internet at home and data cap on tethering - a big reason i'd be hesitant to buy chromebook

igo2northwestern · Post by **igo2northwestern** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:14 pm

Dafaq wrote:Lenovo is the rage. Everyone I know who has one loves it. Asus is the pits according to a few people I know who got sucked into buying one (cheap monitor goes blank)…it is a Best Buy brand so beware when the salesperson tries to hustle you one.

I came to LS with a Vaio and never had a problem so I have resisted buying a new one for just the fun of it. But when the day comes for a change, probably will strongly consider Lenovo.

I'll disagree with the comment about Asus--Asus' brand is known for quality. Not that Lenovo isn't solid, as it is as well. I've had very good experiences with Asus, and a good friend of mine had good experiences too.

Maybe the ones being purchased in the Best Buy store were old or something? I dunno. These articles all put Asus on top or near the top.

http://www.cnet.com/news/who-makes-the- ... -10400447/
http://lifehacker.com/computer-manufact ... 1467145338
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2452946,00.asp
http://www.rescuecom.com/news-press-rel ... -2013.aspx

Edit: Oops, I see now that someone beat me to it.

haus · Post by **haus** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:37 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:This printer is great: http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2270DW ... er+printer

It's not huge, wireless, auto duplex, and it prints PDFs in "booklet" format which gets 4 pages per sheet and is fantastic for journal articles and cases. It's easy to set up and hasn't misbehaved like my Epson and HP inkjets which would periodically just decide they didn't want to connect anymore and needed all their drivers reinstalled for no reason.

Printing at school is a huge PITA compared to just being able to do it at any moment at home, especially on weekends when you weren't planning to go to campus, or late at night. It's also really useful for printing resumes and such on nice paper because you're the only person using it. I've printed fairly extensively for 2 years and only replaced the toner once.

I have had this printer for 3 years and have been impressed. The quality of the print is good, it is fairly speedy, and I get a lot of printing out of a toner cartridge.

Dr.Zer0 · Post by **Dr.Zer0** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:13 pm

I considered buying that printer when I had to print PTs, however I ultimately decided on this one due to its scanning abilities (Note: There's a newer model). How likely is it that I'll need to scan something in law school?

rinkrat19 · Post by **rinkrat19** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:08 am

Dr.Zer0 wrote:I considered buying that printer when I had to print PTs, however I ultimately decided on this one due to its scanning abilities (Note: There's a newer model). How likely is it that I'll need to scan something in law school?

You'll likely need to scan a few things, but I do that at school. (Well, when my HP inkjet all-in-one feels like working properly I can scan at home, but that's a 50/50 prospect. And most people do not have two printers).

A color inkjet is pretty useless for law school, though (mine hasn't had ink in it in two years). The things you need to print you want to be fast and cheap (articles/cases/drafts) or professional looking (resumes). That means laser, whether you do it at home or at school.

BVest · Post by **BVest** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:00 am

Laser is the way to go. Personally I like the HP LaserJet All-In-Ones (print/scan/fax... as if anyone faxes anymore -- not to mention you actually have to have a home phone line to fax). I have an LJ3050 AIO that I've owned for about 8 or 9 years and used for business and law school. It's got about 25,000 total impressions on it to date, which is about half its total life expectancy according to the service manual I found online.

There are many newer LaserJet AIOs that are about $270 new or about $100-125 used and have network or wifi capabilities so that you don't have to hook up the USB cable when you want to print. The most convenient are the ones that have a combination flat-bed and document-feed scanner.

twenty 8 · Post by **twenty 8** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:18 am

BVest wrote:Laser is the way to go. Personally I like the HP LaserJet All-In-Ones (print/scan/fax... as if anyone faxes anymore -- not to mention you actually have to have a home phone line to fax)..

You would think. Fact is our fax machines stay busy most days. It’s not uncommon for someone to ask if I would fax them, I usually ask if its okay to PDF, they normally say yes. BUT if I ask if they would PDF back, nope, they prefer fax. Not weird because it happens, weird because it happens often enough.

If you do any work from home, ditto on needing a fax phone line and ability to receive fax. Granted I can go weeks without anyone asking about faxing, but it does happen.

Snape · Post by **Snape** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:27 am

Best thing I did was buy A McBook Pro after my first day of class. They work great and I can't imagine using one of those crap computers for law school. Spend 1500 on all you need--get a macbook pro!

Attax · Post by **Attax** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:33 am

Snape wrote:Best thing I did was buy A McBook Pro after my first day of class. They work great and I can't imagine using one of those crap computers for law school. Spend 1500 on all you need--get a macbook pro!

The comparable MacBook Pro I built compared to the Lenovo Yoga 2 I built was a ~$900 price difference. Not worth it to me.*

*This is purely anecdotal and not a reflection of all MacBook Pros.

OP: I'm in the same position and am settled on the Yoga 2. The question becomes: orange or black? Think it matters for professionalism?

mt2165 · Post by **mt2165** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:55 am

Attax wrote:
Snape wrote:Best thing I did was buy A McBook Pro after my first day of class. They work great and I can't imagine using one of those crap computers for law school. Spend 1500 on all you need--get a macbook pro!
The comparable MacBook Pro I built compared to the Lenovo Yoga 2 I built was a ~$900 price difference. Not worth it to me.*

*This is purely anecdotal and not a reflection of all MacBook Pros.

OP: I'm in the same position and am settled on the Yoga 2. The question becomes: orange or black? Think it matters for professionalism?

Yea the yoga 2 with an i7, 8gbs od ram, and 256 ssd, all with a 3200x1800 screen for 1200 is ridiculous. Only caveat is the battery life. And yeah idk if I thought I was gunna use it in the real world post graduation I'd prolly get it black but the orange one is sweet and it won't matter for law school. But yeah I'm pretty sure that configuration is 1800-2000 for Mac.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:39 pm

Snape wrote:Best thing I did was buy A McBook Pro after my first day of class. They work great and I can't imagine using one of those crap computers for law school. Spend 1500 on all you need--get a macbook pro!

yeah good call man
need all the horsepower you can get for that intensive word processing
and high octane web browsing

Miznitic · Post by **Miznitic** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:19 pm

Splurge. Yes.

Don't buy the cheapest piece of crap you can find. Buy the best that you can afford within parameters you define before you purchase. I would personally recommend something light weight with an OS that you're comfortable with. Battery life isn't über critical as you'll be plugged in most of the time.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:58 pm

Legal work is incredibly non resource intensive. You don't need to splurg.

Rinkrat is right. Spend the money on a desk printer and dock statio.

rinkrat19 · Post by **rinkrat19** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:32 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Legal work is incredibly non resource intensive. You don't need to splurg.

Rinkrat is right. Spend the money on a desk printer and dock statio.

Or if not a dock, at LEAST the monitor, printer, and a spare power adapter. It's great to be able to leave the power adapter you carry to campus in your school bag and not have to worry about forgetting it at home on a day when you'll be on campus for 8 hours, and just have one set up at home to plug into on your desk.

mt2165 · Post by **mt2165** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:59 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Legal work is incredibly non resource intensive. You don't need to splurg.

Rinkrat is right. Spend the money on a desk printer and dock statio.

Yeah I'll prolly go the sub 1k route I just want something non budget since I'll be spending so much time on it

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