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Post by NYULawStudent123 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:12 pm

tskela wrote:How cheaply can you possibly live? Like...ramen-every-day, no social life, bare minimum. Do students have multiple roommates or is that not very common? How many people can comfortably live in a Brooklyn apartment using a fake wall here and there? NYC is my dream city, but I'll be damned if my cost of living is 35k+ a year. I have a lot of family in the Bronx and I know they don't go anywhere near that number. I know Manhattan isn't the Bronx, but still. Is it possible to live off $1,500 a month?

Definitely. Possible to live on even less than $1500. I have my own nice apartment in Brooklyn for $1,200 a month (1BR). With utilities, prob about $1,325. And $176 is enough for food if you want it to be and you could pay less for rent and utilities if you get roommates or you get a basement apartment. You just gotta do your research.

And my commute is about 45 mins from a nice neighborhood.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by tskela » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:26 pm

NYULawStudent123 wrote:
tskela wrote:How cheaply can you possibly live? Like...ramen-every-day, no social life, bare minimum. Do students have multiple roommates or is that not very common? How many people can comfortably live in a Brooklyn apartment using a fake wall here and there? NYC is my dream city, but I'll be damned if my cost of living is 35k+ a year. I have a lot of family in the Bronx and I know they don't go anywhere near that number. I know Manhattan isn't the Bronx, but still. Is it possible to live off $1,500 a month?

Definitely. Possible to live on even less than $1500. I have my own nice apartment in Brooklyn for $1,200 a month (1BR). With utilities, prob about $1,325. And $176 is enough for food if you want it to be and you could pay less for rent and utilities if you get roommates or you get a basement apartment. You just gotta do your research.

And my commute is about 45 mins from a nice neighborhood.
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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by toothbrush » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:42 pm

NYULawStudent123 wrote:
tskela wrote:How cheaply can you possibly live? Like...ramen-every-day, no social life, bare minimum. Do students have multiple roommates or is that not very common? How many people can comfortably live in a Brooklyn apartment using a fake wall here and there? NYC is my dream city, but I'll be damned if my cost of living is 35k+ a year. I have a lot of family in the Bronx and I know they don't go anywhere near that number. I know Manhattan isn't the Bronx, but still. Is it possible to live off $1,500 a month?

Definitely. Possible to live on even less than $1500. I have my own nice apartment in Brooklyn for $1,200 a month (1BR). With utilities, prob about $1,325. And $176 is enough for food if you want it to be and you could pay less for rent and utilities if you get roommates or you get a basement apartment. You just gotta do your research.

And my commute is about 45 mins from a nice neighborhood.
i dont think this is typical. where the hell do you live?

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Post by JamMasterJ » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:57 pm

NYULawStudent123 wrote:
tskela wrote:How cheaply can you possibly live? Like...ramen-every-day, no social life, bare minimum. Do students have multiple roommates or is that not very common? How many people can comfortably live in a Brooklyn apartment using a fake wall here and there? NYC is my dream city, but I'll be damned if my cost of living is 35k+ a year. I have a lot of family in the Bronx and I know they don't go anywhere near that number. I know Manhattan isn't the Bronx, but still. Is it possible to live off $1,500 a month?

Definitely. Possible to live on even less than $1500. I have my own nice apartment in Brooklyn for $1,200 a month (1BR). With utilities, prob about $1,325. And $176 is enough for food if you want it to be and you could pay less for rent and utilities if you get roommates or you get a basement apartment. You just gotta do your research.

And my commute is about 45 mins from a nice neighborhood.
your commute is also $110ish/month by the way.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:38 pm

I live in Midwood.

And even with the $112 for the metrocard, there are cheaper options if you have roommates. And it actually is very typical, just not so known.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by hellojd » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:00 am

Rising 2L here at NYU as well. To add to what some people have said, I'd also add that I don't see where NYU gets a magical "our people are so much more social/cooler than students at other schools" perception from. I have been flat out denied an outline by someone else during finals time (that wasn't even theirs to begin with), and find that there's a large percentage of socially awkward / overly competitive people as well. That's not to say some of the people I've met aren't great people, but it's not the rainbows and pots of gold environment that people seem to pretend it is.

I will agree with what someone else said earlier - overall the office of career services is helpful for answering questions.

Biggest advantage of NYU is being in one of the cooler neighborhoods in NYC, the downside being that it is also one of the more expensive neighborhoods in the city to live in.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:38 am

hellojd wrote:Rising 2L here at NYU as well. To add to what some people have said, I'd also add that I don't see where NYU gets a magical "our people are so much more social/cooler than students at other schools" perception from. I have been flat out denied an outline by someone else during finals time (that wasn't even theirs to begin with), and find that there's a large percentage of socially awkward / overly competitive people as well. That's not to say some of the people I've met aren't great people, but it's not the rainbows and pots of gold environment that people seem to pretend it is.

I will agree with what someone else said earlier - overall the office of career services is helpful for answering questions.

Biggest advantage of NYU is being in one of the cooler neighborhoods in NYC, the downside being that it is also one of the more expensive neighborhoods in the city to live in.

Depending on where that person got that outline, it might be entirely understandable. If he got it from 1) a friend, or 2) a 2L who asked him not to share it, it makes complete sense for him not to share it. Some 2L/3L's don't want their outlines becoming wide-spread. There are also people that just don't want to share their outlines with anyone. But by and large, for the most part, people will share outlines if you are *friends* with them. To ask someone you have nothing to do with, if that were to be the case, that would be a bit odd.


Either way, for the most part, people at NYU think it "rainbows and pots of gold," and every school will have people who aren't happy. They are welcome to their opinion and there will always be a reason why they feel that way. But usually, what the majority of students say about school tends to be true.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by hellojd » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:45 am

NYULawStudent123 wrote:
hellojd wrote:Rising 2L here at NYU as well. To add to what some people have said, I'd also add that I don't see where NYU gets a magical "our people are so much more social/cooler than students at other schools" perception from. I have been flat out denied an outline by someone else during finals time (that wasn't even theirs to begin with), and find that there's a large percentage of socially awkward / overly competitive people as well. That's not to say some of the people I've met aren't great people, but it's not the rainbows and pots of gold environment that people seem to pretend it is.

I will agree with what someone else said earlier - overall the office of career services is helpful for answering questions.

Biggest advantage of NYU is being in one of the cooler neighborhoods in NYC, the downside being that it is also one of the more expensive neighborhoods in the city to live in.

Depending on where that person got that outline, it might be entirely understandable. If he got it from 1) a friend, or 2) a 2L who asked him not to share it, it makes complete sense for him not to share it. Some 2L/3L's don't want their outlines becoming wide-spread. There are also people that just don't want to share their outlines with anyone. But by and large, for the most part, people will share outlines if you are *friends* with them. To ask someone you have nothing to do with, if that were to be the case, that would be a bit odd.


Either way, for the most part, people at NYU think it "rainbows and pots of gold," and every school will have people who aren't happy. They are welcome to their opinion and there will always be a reason why they feel that way. But usually, what the majority of students say about school tends to be true.
Why would I ask someone I had "nothing to do with" for an outline? This was a person that I was in the same section with, knew and had actually helped out quite a bit during first semester exams.

Your snarky reply evinces the exact kind of attitude I was referring to in any case. Sorry to offer a contrary opinion buddy.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:50 am

hellojd wrote:
NYULawStudent123 wrote:
hellojd wrote:Rising 2L here at NYU as well. To add to what some people have said, I'd also add that I don't see where NYU gets a magical "our people are so much more social/cooler than students at other schools" perception from. I have been flat out denied an outline by someone else during finals time (that wasn't even theirs to begin with), and find that there's a large percentage of socially awkward / overly competitive people as well. That's not to say some of the people I've met aren't great people, but it's not the rainbows and pots of gold environment that people seem to pretend it is.

I will agree with what someone else said earlier - overall the office of career services is helpful for answering questions.

Biggest advantage of NYU is being in one of the cooler neighborhoods in NYC, the downside being that it is also one of the more expensive neighborhoods in the city to live in.

Depending on where that person got that outline, it might be entirely understandable. If he got it from 1) a friend, or 2) a 2L who asked him not to share it, it makes complete sense for him not to share it. Some 2L/3L's don't want their outlines becoming wide-spread. There are also people that just don't want to share their outlines with anyone. But by and large, for the most part, people will share outlines if you are *friends* with them. To ask someone you have nothing to do with, if that were to be the case, that would be a bit odd.


Either way, for the most part, people at NYU think it "rainbows and pots of gold," and every school will have people who aren't happy. They are welcome to their opinion and there will always be a reason why they feel that way. But usually, what the majority of students say about school tends to be true.
Why would I ask someone I had "nothing to do with" for an outline? This was a person that I was in the same section with, knew and had actually helped out quite a bit during first semester exams.

Your snarky reply evinces the exact kind of attitude I was referring to in any case. Sorry to offer a contrary opinion buddy.

Notice the bolded language. I gave you a series of reasons to explain why someone would not give you an outline. I also made clear that there are exceptions to the rule.

Anyways, if you feel required to be negative and rude, please find a different thread. This thread is meant to be positive and helpful, not rude and negative. And FYI, I was the type of person who gave my outlines away, even if I didn't need/want one in return.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by hellojd » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:45 am

NYULawStudent123 wrote:
hellojd wrote:
NYULawStudent123 wrote:
hellojd wrote:Rising 2L here at NYU as well. To add to what some people have said, I'd also add that I don't see where NYU gets a magical "our people are so much more social/cooler than students at other schools" perception from. I have been flat out denied an outline by someone else during finals time (that wasn't even theirs to begin with), and find that there's a large percentage of socially awkward / overly competitive people as well. That's not to say some of the people I've met aren't great people, but it's not the rainbows and pots of gold environment that people seem to pretend it is.

I will agree with what someone else said earlier - overall the office of career services is helpful for answering questions.

Biggest advantage of NYU is being in one of the cooler neighborhoods in NYC, the downside being that it is also one of the more expensive neighborhoods in the city to live in.

Depending on where that person got that outline, it might be entirely understandable. If he got it from 1) a friend, or 2) a 2L who asked him not to share it, it makes complete sense for him not to share it. Some 2L/3L's don't want their outlines becoming wide-spread. There are also people that just don't want to share their outlines with anyone. But by and large, for the most part, people will share outlines if you are *friends* with them. To ask someone you have nothing to do with, if that were to be the case, that would be a bit odd.


Either way, for the most part, people at NYU think it "rainbows and pots of gold," and every school will have people who aren't happy. They are welcome to their opinion and there will always be a reason why they feel that way. But usually, what the majority of students say about school tends to be true.
Why would I ask someone I had "nothing to do with" for an outline? This was a person that I was in the same section with, knew and had actually helped out quite a bit during first semester exams.

Your snarky reply evinces the exact kind of attitude I was referring to in any case. Sorry to offer a contrary opinion buddy.

Notice the bolded language. I gave you a series of reasons to explain why someone would not give you an outline. I also made clear that there are exceptions to the rule.

Anyways, if you feel required to be negative and rude, please find a different thread. This thread is meant to be positive and helpful, not rude and negative. And FYI, I was the type of person who gave my outlines away, even if I didn't need/want one in return.

Thanks! :)
If I was a 0L, I'd want to know all of the perceived positives and negatives by current students at each law school, and each law student will have good and bad experiences. I was simply offering mine. I did well 1L year and landed a 1L SA and am quite happy with my overall situation at NYU, but prospective students need to know the good and the bad and I'd rather not "butter up" their idea of the school if it's not consonant with my own experiences.

You can defend NYU if you want and that's great, but if you find disagreement to be negative and rude, then sorry but I guess I'm going to be negative and rude if I don't agree with 100% of what you're saying.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:49 am

hellojd wrote:
NYULawStudent123 wrote:
hellojd wrote: Depending on where that person got that outline, it might be entirely understandable. If he got it from 1) a friend, or 2) a 2L who asked him not to share it, it makes complete sense for him not to share it. Some 2L/3L's don't want their outlines becoming wide-spread. There are also people that just don't want to share their outlines with anyone. But by and large, for the most part, people will share outlines if you are *friends* with them. To ask someone you have nothing to do with, if that were to be the case, that would be a bit odd.


Either way, for the most part, people at NYU think it "rainbows and pots of gold," and every school will have people who aren't happy. They are welcome to their opinion and there will always be a reason why they feel that way. But usually, what the majority of students say about school tends to be true.
Why would I ask someone I had "nothing to do with" for an outline? This was a person that I was in the same section with, knew and had actually helped out quite a bit during first semester exams.

Your snarky reply evinces the exact kind of attitude I was referring to in any case. Sorry to offer a contrary opinion buddy.

Notice the bolded language. I gave you a series of reasons to explain why someone would not give you an outline. I also made clear that there are exceptions to the rule.

Anyways, if you feel required to be negative and rude, please find a different thread. This thread is meant to be positive and helpful, not rude and negative. And FYI, I was the type of person who gave my outlines away, even if I didn't need/want one in return.

Thanks! :)
If I was a 0L, I'd want to know all of the perceived positives and negatives by current students at each law school, and each law student will have good and bad experiences. I was simply offering mine. I did well 1L year and landed a 1L SA and am quite happy with my overall situation at NYU, but prospective students need to know the good and the bad and I'd rather not "butter up" their idea of the school if it's not consonant with my own experiences.

You can defend NYU if you want and that's great, but if you find disagreement to be negative and rude, then sorry but I guess I'm going to be negative and rude if I don't agree with 100% of what you're saying.[/quote]


I found your follow up reply to be negative and rude. Your original post was fine.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by canoe » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:22 pm

1) How accessible are previous years' exams? If the professor doesn't hand out sample/previous exams, are there ways to access previous exams short of knowing/asking someone who previously took his/her class?

2) Can you pick classes/professors for your 1L courses or are you randomly assigned?

3) If you want to get outside housing (non-student housing) your 1L year, what's the best way to go about it outside of craigslist?

4) Can you briefly expound on what you would have done differently your 1L year to get better grades?

Thanks op

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Post by NYULawStudent123 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:32 pm

canoe wrote:1) How accessible are previous years' exams? If the professor doesn't hand out sample/previous exams, are there ways to access previous exams short of knowing/asking someone who previously took his/her class?

2) Can you pick classes/professors for your 1L courses or are you randomly assigned?

3) If you want to get outside housing (non-student housing) your 1L year, what's the best way to go about it outside of craigslist?

4) Can you briefly expound on what you would have done differently your 1L year to get better grades?

Thanks op

1) Very accessible. You could find them even through sending an email to the listserv. It's just a matter if that professor taught for awhile to have many exams.

2) Randomly assigned. Except one elective in spring.

3) The many other apartment listing site that exist, and having a list to check out and coming to NYC to do so.

4) This is a difficult question. I happened to get pretty good grades, and in at least three classes missed the higher grade cutoff by a smidge. So one thing I would've done would've been to get a smidge higher on those exams, lol. But also, I'd say starting to outline earlier is better, as it will help keep the workload balanced. Also, if a class doesn't have many old outlines or old exams, maybe work with peers more? I don't know about that one. If you want advice on how to do well, in general, feel free to ask.

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Post by wade » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:43 pm

If you signed up for two-semester housing, but decided at the end of your first semester you wanted to move, how difficult is it to (a) successfully request a new NYU housing assignment or (b) leave NYU housing entirely?

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by canoe » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:50 pm

NYULawStudent123 wrote:
canoe wrote:1) How accessible are previous years' exams? If the professor doesn't hand out sample/previous exams, are there ways to access previous exams short of knowing/asking someone who previously took his/her class?

2) Can you pick classes/professors for your 1L courses or are you randomly assigned?

3) If you want to get outside housing (non-student housing) your 1L year, what's the best way to go about it outside of craigslist?

4) Can you briefly expound on what you would have done differently your 1L year to get better grades?

Thanks op

1) Very accessible. You could find them even through sending an email to the listserv. It's just a matter if that professor taught for awhile to have many exams.

2) Randomly assigned. Except one elective in spring.

3) The many other apartment listing site that exist, and having a list to check out and coming to NYC to do so.

4) This is a difficult question. I happened to get pretty good grades, and in at least three classes missed the higher grade cutoff by a smidge. So one thing I would've done would've been to get a smidge higher on those exams, lol. But also, I'd say starting to outline earlier is better, as it will help keep the workload balanced. Also, if a class doesn't have many old outlines or old exams, maybe work with peers more? I don't know about that one. If you want advice on how to do well, in general, feel free to ask.
Pray, please share your advice.

Oh and one more question: I know you haven't gone through OCI yet, but what's NYU's bidding system like? (lottery, etc.)

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by hellojd » Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:44 pm

canoe wrote: Pray, please share your advice.

Oh and one more question: I know you haven't gone through OCI yet, but what's NYU's bidding system like? (lottery, etc.)
NYU's system is purely based on lottery bidding. No pre-screening allowed.

Grades are a tough subject for me to address personally as well. Like OP I did well, but there was no rhyme or reason to it. 1st semester I worked my butt off, read every supplement I could get my hands on, and generally stressed a lot. I ended up at a touch above the median. 2nd semester I was job hunting the first half of the semester and missed multiple classes in each subject, went on spring break and didn't crack open a book, generally worked a lot less and felt more apathetic towards exams, and knocked it out of the park. Made no sense to me at all. The only thing I can point to is the fact that I went over my 1st semester exams and tried to figure out where I could have done better, but almost everyone does this so I'm not sure it gave me some sort of competitive advantage.

If you're entering law school, I will definitely say that while you should keep up with your reading and stay active in class, DO NOT stress out and overwork yourself the 1st half of the semester (outlining, as OP mentioned, here and there may be the only helpful supplemental thing to start doing around halfway through the semester). You forget everything anyways and 1 hour of studying in November / December is worth 4 hours of studying in September / October.

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Are there closets/wardrobes in D'Ag apartment bedrooms in which to hang garments?

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NYULawStudent123 wrote:I live in Midwood.

And even with the $112 for the metrocard, there are cheaper options if you have roommates. And it actually is very typical, just not so known.
thx for doing this
i'm in brooklyn too, sunset park
how is the locker situation for us commuters?
are they large?

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Post by sinfiery » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:40 am

iliketurtles123 wrote: The reasons you should choose (or not choose) NYU over other schools are:
1. Location – Great location, but high CoL. Idiosyncratic to individual’s preferences.
2. LRAP and PI center- I think we have a huge advantage over other schools in PI
3. Employment outcomes- NYU gets a lot of bad rap for its relatively low NLJ 250 placement (relative to Columbia/Chicago at least), but I'm very sure it has to do with those who self-select out of PI. In addition, firms do not differentiate NYU from Columbia, and go deeper into NYU compared to lower ranked schools. This is my biased opinion but there’s a reason why when comparing NYU to Penn, NYU has better placement in “elite” firm. Those who want biglaw are able to place into more elite firms, yet the placement numbers are similar because we have a PI/gov. self-selection.
This is dead on. Location, once you are in law school, is actually really important. You have tons of time to go out and enjoy yourself, even as a 1L. It is something I wish I thought more of as a 0L even though I lucked out with NYU. It is one of the best parts of my law school experience.

PI is real at NYU. UChicago had 1 or 2 people from the class of 2015 go into PI I think. That is absolutely not the case at NYU.


The rest is whatever, it kind of evens itself out between schools. I think we tend to have better professors because professors also definitely care about location but this advantage evens itself out by our large class sizes.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:44 pm

wade wrote:If you signed up for two-semester housing, but decided at the end of your first semester you wanted to move, how difficult is it to (a) successfully request a new NYU housing assignment or (b) leave NYU housing entirely?

Thanks!

Probably more difficult to leave NYU housing than to switch your housing assignment. I didn't live on campus, though.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:45 pm

Brut wrote:
NYULawStudent123 wrote:I live in Midwood.

And even with the $112 for the metrocard, there are cheaper options if you have roommates. And it actually is very typical, just not so known.
thx for doing this
i'm in brooklyn too, sunset park
how is the locker situation for us commuters?
are they large?

Relatively small, but large enough for your books and stuff. Just don't expect to put a huge backpack in them.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

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Power_of_Facing wrote:Are there closets/wardrobes in D'Ag apartment bedrooms in which to hang garments?

I would assume so.

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:01 pm

canoe wrote:
NYULawStudent123 wrote:
canoe wrote:1) How accessible are previous years' exams? If the professor doesn't hand out sample/previous exams, are there ways to access previous exams short of knowing/asking someone who previously took his/her class?

2) Can you pick classes/professors for your 1L courses or are you randomly assigned?

3) If you want to get outside housing (non-student housing) your 1L year, what's the best way to go about it outside of craigslist?

4) Can you briefly expound on what you would have done differently your 1L year to get better grades?

Thanks op

1) Very accessible. You could find them even through sending an email to the listserv. It's just a matter if that professor taught for awhile to have many exams.

2) Randomly assigned. Except one elective in spring.

3) The many other apartment listing site that exist, and having a list to check out and coming to NYC to do so.

4) This is a difficult question. I happened to get pretty good grades, and in at least three classes missed the higher grade cutoff by a smidge. So one thing I would've done would've been to get a smidge higher on those exams, lol. But also, I'd say starting to outline earlier is better, as it will help keep the workload balanced. Also, if a class doesn't have many old outlines or old exams, maybe work with peers more? I don't know about that one. If you want advice on how to do well, in general, feel free to ask.
Pray, please share your advice.

Oh and one more question: I know you haven't gone through OCI yet, but what's NYU's bidding system like? (lottery, etc.)


So my first piece of advice would be do as I say, not as I did. But if I were to give advice on what I think would be the ideal approach to do well in law school, it would be as follows:

1) SUPPLEMENTS. Use supplements as supplements, not as your main source of information. By that, I mean they should be there in case you don't understand a small topic, but the casebook, lecture, and office hours should be your main sources of information.

2) BRIEFING CASES. Not necessary. It is perfectly okay to brief cases early in the semester if doing so will help you understand the information better. But as the semester goes on and time becomes scarce, briefing outline will be a poor use of time, and you should try to avoid doing so during the final month of prep.

3) OLD OUTLINES. To expound on #1, the best supplements are old outlines. During the first few weeks of the semester, find yourself a few good old outlines from 2L's or 3L's and use them as a supplement as you read the case book. If you find good old outlines, you will know what the professor is looking for and will know what topics to focus on throughout the semester.

4) OUTLINING. You should outline each topic after you complete it. For example, after completing personal jurisdiction in civ pro, you should outline it. This is a good practice, as it will keep you up to date throughout the semester. If need be, you could take your outlines on each topic and make a more condensed outline a 6 weeks before exams (30-70 pages would be ideal). You will want to make your attack outline 1-2 weeks before you exam--it should be 5-15 pages, depending on amount of material.

5) PRACTICE EXAMS. Start doing practice exams 3-4 weeks before finals. Start off by doing one every few days, as you finish up outlining, so you get a feel for what you should be outlining. Read over model answers carefully. If your professor doesn't have many old exams, find exams from professors who test similarly. Save at least three exams to do after you make your attack outline. Doing a few exams before making your attack outline will be very beneficial, as it will give you an idea of what you will need to be completely focused on.

6) TEST TAKING. Test taking is an art. If you get a hang of it early, you will be in amazing shape. As for taking LEEWS or reading some book, I read portions of "Open Book," but I didn't find it to be so helpful. It had some good points, but I didn't think about them while taking exams. I naturally thought in the way these programs try to get you to think. What I think the issue with these books and course is that they are made for the masses, and if you fall into the masses, your grades will be average. The key to test taking is to know what your professor is looking for. There is not exact right way to take an exam. The ideal way is how your professor likes, so taking old exams and reading model answers will give you an idea of what the professor is looking for. That is why it is crucial to talk with upperclassmen and learn what your professor likes and looks for, so you can tailor your exam to the professor's liking.

I'm probably missing some things, but that's a mini-guide to how I would advise 0L's regarding law school. If people want, I might consider writing an article. Let me know.

I hope the above information is helpful!

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by NYULawStudent123 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:11 pm

Bumping so people could see the advice I wrote on succeeding in law school. :)

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Re: NYU Rising 2L Taking Questions

Post by MarshallE » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:39 am

This question relates more to the social/cultural side of NYU, but is there a sizeable athletic community at the law school? If so, could you please elaborate on the general level of competiveness and skill that exists? Playing competitive sports is a great way to relieve stress, and would also serve as means to meet and get to know other law students. However, if such a community doesn't exist at NYU Law it would be helpful to know so I can start looking for a Manhattan sports club to join. Thanks!

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