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[84651846190]

2) The partners and seniors expect you to anticipate and take care of the little things, but don't give you enough big picture information to be able to effectively do that.

And when you say you don't know something they look at you like you're an idiot. The docket is 3k entries long, I don't know how much background reading aside from what you directed me to you thought I was going to do...

So how do you guys go about doing your work in such a situation?

Blood pressure medication.

[Theopliske8711]

2) The partners and seniors expect you to anticipate and take care of the little things, but don't give you enough big picture information to be able to effectively do that.

And when you say you don't know something they look at you like you're an idiot. The docket is 3k entries long, I don't know how much background reading aside from what you directed me to you thought I was going to do...

So how do you guys go about doing your work in such a situation?

Blood pressure medication.

I mean like more specifically, how do you actually go about the process of working on something with such a lack of information?

[El Pollito]

So how do you guys go about doing your work in such a situation?

Don't take anything personally, ever.

Can I get a plaque for your office that reads "Immune to Butthurt"?

Absolutely.

[84651846190]

And when you say you don't know something they look at you like you're an idiot. The docket is 3k entries long, I don't know how much background reading aside from what you directed me to you thought I was going to do...

So how do you guys go about doing your work in such a situation?

Blood pressure medication.

I mean like more specifically, how do you actually go about the process of working on something with such a lack of information?

You pretend like you know everything and act surprised if/when you're proven wrong in the future, like every other fucking lawyer.

[rad lulz]

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[Theopliske8711]

You pretend like you know everything and act surprised if/when you're proven wrong in the future, like every other fucking lawyer.

This explains a lot.

[84651846190]

Under these impossible circumstances, I'm amazed that there is an attrition rate at all. Seems to me half the associates would be fired within a year or two at best, and for shit that is unlikely to even be their fault.

You're not going to get fired for it, you're going to get some level of reprimanded.

But very, very rarely does anyone point out that you did something well/flawlessly, because that's the expectation. So all I ever hope for in terms of feedback is hearing nothing. So I just constantly hope that no one talks to me. Because if they're emailing me/stopping by my office, it's either to give me more work or to inform me about something I fucked up. This makes being at the office a rather grim experience.

Hearing nothing is the best

Either my work was fine or no one read it

Hearing nothing + continuing to get work is best. Hearing nothing + not getting anymore work from anyone is a problem.

[Theopliske8711]

Under these impossible circumstances, I'm amazed that there is an attrition rate at all. Seems to me half the associates would be fired within a year or two at best, and for shit that is unlikely to even be their fault.

You're not going to get fired for it, you're going to get some level of reprimanded.

But very, very rarely does anyone point out that you did something well/flawlessly, because that's the expectation. So all I ever hope for in terms of feedback is hearing nothing. So I just constantly hope that no one talks to me. Because if they're emailing me/stopping by my office, it's either to give me more work or to inform me about something I fucked up. This makes being at the office a rather grim experience.

Hearing nothing is the best

Either my work was fine or no one read it

Hearing nothing + continuing to get work is best. Hearing nothing + not getting anymore work from anyone is a problem.

One of the first attorneys I ever worked with a para had worked in biglaw for a few years. She would always respond to work she approved with affirmations, like "good job with that" or "good catch". I always thought it was a bit weird. Now I'm wondering if its one of the scars from biglaw.

[rad lulz]

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[rayiner]

These are your coworkers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc.

[IAFG]

These are your coworkers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc.

The TLS rickroll

[thesealocust]

I'm loving this thread.

But very, very rarely does anyone point out that you did something well/flawlessly, because that's the expectation. So all I ever hope for in terms of feedback is hearing nothing. So I just constantly hope that no one talks to me. Because if they're emailing me/stopping by my office, it's either to give me more work or to inform me about something I fucked up. This makes being at the office a rather grim experience.

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So how do you guys go about doing your work in such a situation?

Don't take anything personally, ever.

+1 +1 +1 +1

I mean like more specifically, how do you actually go about the process of working on something with such a lack of information?

You pretend like you know everything and act surprised if/when you're proven wrong in the future, like every other fucking lawyer.

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[rpupkin]

These are your coworkers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSJUzYCGtc.

Awesome. The best part is that all three associates seem anxious, as if they're going to be fired if they don't persuasively explain why K&E attorneys have such a great work-life balance.

[Question Everything]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

[Elston Gunn]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

looool

[thesealocust]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Psychopath of our hearts, though.

(also guessing the phrase you were searching for was "sociopath")

[Question Everything]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Psychopath of our hearts, though.

(also guessing the phrase you were searching for was "sociopath")

Thanks for your input, Dr. Phil, but I'll stick with my assessment.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psycho ... _Sociopath

[IAFG]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Yeah I don't really care about this either.

Maybe that's why I'm actually relatively happy in my job. Let's have a competing thread where we list personality traits that make biglaw tolerable. Oh, wait, we do.

But yeah, enjoy saving the world or whatever you plan to do instead of biglaw. I'm sure you won't just suck up donor dollars trying to elevate the prestige of your org's president or anything.

[seespotrun]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Looks like you're not cut out for biglaw. Sorry, prole.

[worldtraveler]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Yeah I don't really care about this either.

Maybe that's why I'm actually relatively happy in my job. Let's have a competing thread where we list personality traits that make biglaw tolerable. Oh, wait, we do.

But yeah, enjoy saving the world or whatever you plan to do instead of biglaw. I'm sure you won't just suck up donor dollars trying to elevate the prestige of your org's president or anything.

All of my funding is through a law firm. If you don't screw people over to make money, I don't get paid to save the world.

[rpupkin]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

IAFG wasn't expressing "bemusement" at those who are bothered by the effects of adversarial litigation; she was just noting that it didn't particularly bother her. Your vitriolic criticism seems more suggestive of psychopathy (or sociopathy) than anything IAFG wrote.

[Ricky-Bobby]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

What exactly about IAFG's statement lacks empathy? Just because you don't like the side biglawyers work for does not make them psychopaths.

Would you have qualms about the statement:
"Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (hedge fund managers, big bankers, CEOs) to get poor people rich,"?
That's some Robin Hood shit right there. Does that bug you? If not, you're a terrible person.

[bjsesq]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Sources close to TLS tell us that this poster is, in fact, mad.

[IAFG]

I only brought it up because I know the constant grind of helping the rich get richer pushes some people to/over the brink of ragequit, which is the point of the thread. I disqualified myself because I already complain about enough things.

[Question Everything]

Something that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people is when it's your job to screw over people (investors, claimants, whatever) to keep rich people rich.

I've got news for you. If this doesn't bother you, you're a terrible person. What's more, the fact that you felt the need to explicitly preface your comment with "omething that doesn't bother me but seems to really get to other people...", as if to ensure that no one mistakenly construes that you possess any empathy, while at the same time making clear your bemusement at those that do, is near definitive evidence that you're a psychopath.

Looks like you're not cut out for biglaw. Sorry, prole.

Agreed. And, just for the record, I'd much rather spend my life as a prole than defending Inner Party members, trying desperately to convince myself that money and "prestige" is worth sacrificing my soul for Big Brother, until I one day realize I'll never rise to become morn than a Outer Party peon with a bleeding ulcer and varicose veins.