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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by lawstudent_87 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:30 pm

This has already been throughly debated on JDU (lawyer v garbage man).

http://www.jdunderground.com/all/thread ... eadId=9541

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by rpupkin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:35 pm

yossarian71 wrote:It's the latter. It's the worst 8 hrs there is. Covered in shit. Smelling shit. Moving shit. For no reason. A great sisephyian task without reason only suffering. But a true 40 hrs. And enough money in 20 years to retire
JohannDeMann wrote: Dude I could easily retire after 10 years on this type of job. This sounds like heaven.
Y'all are seriously underestimating how far $160K goes.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:36 pm

wait, do we have a mountain of debt from Big Shit U in this hypo?

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by yeslekkkk » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:40 pm

Obviously no one here has shoveled shit and has been been paid for it.

It's really not fun.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by rpupkin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:41 pm

patogordo wrote:are you kidding me? who would turn this down?
I would turn it down. But I have actually done full-time manual labor before. This thread reminds me of Peter Gibbons in Office Space, who kept fantasizing about how great it would be to just work on a construction crew all day. The grass is always greener.
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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:43 pm

rpupkin wrote:
patogordo wrote:are you kidding me? who would turn this down?
I would. But I have actually done full-time manual labor before. This thread reminds me of Peter Gibbons in Office Space, who kept fantasizing about how great it would be to just work on a construction crew all day. The grass is always greener.
yea except in this hypo the grass is literally greener. like $60-80/hr greener.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by rpupkin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:44 pm

patogordo wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
patogordo wrote:are you kidding me? who would turn this down?
I would. But I have actually done full-time manual labor before. This thread reminds me of Peter Gibbons in Office Space, who kept fantasizing about how great it would be to just work on a construction crew all day. The grass is always greener.
yea except in this hypo the grass is literally greener. like $60-80/hr greener.
Understood. Still wouldn't do it.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:45 pm

that's crazy. shoveling shit isn't even back-breaking manual labor. it's not like you're working in a coal mine.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by Balthy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:13 pm

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Balthy wrote:A friend of mine actually worked at a Mega Blocks factory once and said people would spontaneously burst into tears all the time.
This is amazing. Is everyone assigned one type/color of block to make? Is it someone's job to just load the plastic into the extruder? What did your friend do? What did the criers do? Is the Lego factory better? Are you allowed to make a fort to work in?

Man, that sentence brings up so many questions.

Lol, i can't tell if you're serious but i'll answer anyway.

At the plant where she worked, they just put mega blocks into little boxes. So there are a bunch of conveyor belts and at the starting end of each one a few employees are picking up flattened boxes and constructing them as fast as possible. The middle portion has a bunch of people tasked with putting a certain combination of blocks into the boxes, like say 5 red small ones, 6 big green ones, and 7 small yellow ones. They have to do that for every box, the boxes are an inch apart, and the belt is moving too fast, so my friend says it's impossible to count the pieces fast enough. You fuck up, boxes bunch up, and you're yelled at. At the end someone seals them and then weighs each box, and if the weight it off, everyone on the line is yelled at. When one of your supply boxes is running low, they don't stop the line to let you get more. Instead you tell this person whose sole task is to refill supply boxes. They are often too late because they also have way too much to do, your boxes bunch up, and you both get yelled at. My friend says that the timing and getting yelled at is the worst part. Even the monotony would be bearable if you could zone out while working but the pace requires your brain to be constantly engaged for hours, so it's extremely exhausting mentally. And the supervisors treat you like you're worthless. She says people mostly cry because they just can't handle the fatigue or because they just fucked up and they know they're about to be yelled at and possibly lose their job. And all of this was in Canada. I can't imagine how it is in third-world countries.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by Kafkaesquire » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:22 pm

patogordo wrote:that's crazy. shoveling shit isn't even back-breaking manual labor. it's not like you're working in a coal mine.
You are dense as shit. Shoveling biomass for 8 hrs a day is back-breaking work. I've shoveled sand for 8 hrs a day for two days, and it was fucking hell.

This is pointless in that in its premise lies a subject of mass ignorance among you all.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:26 pm

You are dense as shit.
epic pun, but you seem kinda dumb so probably unintentional.
Shoveling biomass for 8 hrs a day is back-breaking work. I've shoveled sand for 8 hrs a day for two days, and it was fucking hell.
sand is like 100x more dense than shit. turds barely sink in water.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:28 pm

Kafkaesquire wrote:This is pointless in that in its premise lies a subject of mass ignorance among you all.
lol please. not only have i literally shoveled shit before, but i've shoveled it into giant pits and then set it on fire. for like less than $30k/yr. it wasn't that bad.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by rpupkin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:30 pm

patogordo wrote: sand is like 100x more dense than shit. turds barely sink in water.
LOL. Dude, just stop. You're like the manual labor equivalent of a 1L who claims they're cut out for big law because they didn't have a problem pulling an all-nighter on their LRW memo.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by FKASunny » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:32 pm

rpupkin wrote:
patogordo wrote: sand is like 100x more dense than shit. turds barely sink in water.
LOL. Dude, just stop. You're like the manual labor equivalent of a 1L who claims they're cut out for big law because they didn't have a problem pulling an all-nighter on their LRW memo.
Wait, is this not a valid viewpoint?

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:33 pm

rpupkin wrote:
patogordo wrote: sand is like 100x more dense than shit. turds barely sink in water.
LOL. Dude, just stop. You're like the manual labor equivalent of a 1L who claims they're cut out for big law because they didn't have a problem pulling an all-nighter on their LRW memo.
you have no idea what you're talking about. and sand is approx. 100x as dense as shit.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by Emma. » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:36 pm

Human shit, or like horse manure? I'd still rather shovel human shit than work in biglaw (as long as I could have basic protective gear--n95 mask, gloves, coveralls) but if it's manure, there's really no contest.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by Pneumonia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:36 pm

I have done this but at like 1/10th the pay. Would in a heartbeat forego law school and do it again. In fact I don't really understand how this is even a question.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by Kafkaesquire » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:37 pm

patogordo wrote:
Kafkaesquire wrote:This is pointless in that in its premise lies a subject of mass ignorance among you all.
lol please. not only have i literally shoveled shit before, but i've shoveled it into giant pits and then set it on fire. for like less than $30k/yr. it wasn't that bad.
You're probably intentionally being vague about your experience. Did you continuously shovel shit for 8 hrs a day? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:40 pm

Kafkaesquire wrote:
patogordo wrote:
Kafkaesquire wrote:This is pointless in that in its premise lies a subject of mass ignorance among you all.
lol please. not only have i literally shoveled shit before, but i've shoveled it into giant pits and then set it on fire. for like less than $30k/yr. it wasn't that bad.
You're probably intentionally being vague about your experience. Did you continuously shovel shit for 8 hrs a day? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
really, that's the standard we're gonna use here? no one can answer a ludicrous hypothetical unless they've literally experienced it first-hand?

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by rpupkin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:42 pm

patogordo wrote: really, that's the standard we're gonna use here? no one can answer a ludicrous hypothetical unless they've literally experienced it first-hand?
I like this twist on the hypo. What if you didn't have a shovel? What if you literally had to shovel the shit with your hands?

Let's say you can lateral to a place with a shovel after three years.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by Kafkaesquire » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:44 pm

patogordo wrote:
You are dense as shit.
epic pun, but you seem kinda dumb so probably unintentional.
Shoveling biomass for 8 hrs a day is back-breaking work. I've shoveled sand for 8 hrs a day for two days, and it was fucking hell.
sand is like 100x more dense than shit. turds barely sink in water.
You're so lazy. Have you ever worked a calculator?

Human feces has about the same density as water, like you said: about 1000 kg/m^3.
Dry sand is 1500 kg/m^3.

Sand is 1.5x denser than shit.

By the way, even your English is shitty. You're going to law school?

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:45 pm

EE degree. didn't even have to take freshman english.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by ManoftheHour » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:46 pm

patogordo wrote: i've done worse for less. sign me up.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by patogordo » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:47 pm

kinda shitty to make fun of my english when i'm obviously portuguese, bro.

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Re: Big Law Associates: Would You Rather Shovel Shit?

Post by ManoftheHour » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:48 pm

patogordo wrote:kinda shitty to make fun of my english when i'm obviously portuguese, bro.
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