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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by Hipster but Athletic » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:24 pm

Where would you rank drunken love in terms of all Beyoncé songs ever?

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Post by sashafierce » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:28 pm

Danger Zone wrote:
sashafierce wrote: But that's because I work in the field,for people outside the field learning about Beta, risk premiums and off balance sheet transactions might be a bit of a hassle. :lol:
Learning a bit about "beta" from this post.

Lucky you...I've been focusng on the LSAT so much lately that I sometimes forget what beta means :wink:

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by sashafierce » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:35 pm

Hipster but Athletic wrote:Where would you rank drunken love in terms of all Beyoncé songs ever?
WTF :shock:

Because my username is sashafierce and I have a pic of Beyonce in my profile you assume that I know ALL of Beyonce's songs

Dude, its 10:32pm where I live and an RC passage just f#%ked me in the ass, I don't have time for this :roll:

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

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I have to ask... what's your favorite Tyler Perry movie?

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

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Danger Zone wrote:I have to ask... what's your favorite Tyler Perry movie?

The one about a racist guy making racist assumptions about someone he never met. You should watch it :roll:

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

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@Moderator--->Please lock this thread :)

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by IAFG » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:58 pm

sashafierce wrote:@Moderator--->Please lock this thread :)
in my, what, 6 years of TLSing, i don't think i've ever seen a thread locked this way. the mods are trollier than you think.

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by daryldixon » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:01 pm

sashafierce wrote:I am just a 0L :)
Then this is a dumb question.

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Post by n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:01 pm

By permissible index funds, we are referring to something like SPY, right? Won't a collection of stocks like that most likely comprise some companies on the DNT list?

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by Danger Zone » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:03 pm

n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:By permissible index funds, we are referring to something like SPY, right? Won't a collection of stocks like that most likely comprise some companies on the DNT list?
Yes, but it's fine because it's a pre-packaged fund, not just buying the individual stock.

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Post by daryldixon » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:03 pm

n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:By permissible index funds, we are referring to something like SPY, right? Won't a collection of stocks like that most likely comprise some companies on the DNT list?
The restriction is "you" actively making the investments in individual companies. Index funds are presumptively okay because they are spread out over many companies and you have no control over the trading decisions.

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by Hipster but Athletic » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:04 pm

sashafierce wrote:
Hipster but Athletic wrote:Where would you rank drunken love in terms of all Beyoncé songs ever?
WTF :shock:

Because my username is sashafierce and I have a pic of Beyonce in my profile you assume that I know ALL of Beyonce's songs

Dude, its 10:32pm where I live and an RC passage just f#%ked me in the ass, I don't have time for this :roll:
Oh sweet, a decent troll feels the need to expose himself way too early

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Post by presh » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:06 pm

sashafierce wrote:@Moderator--->Please lock this thread :)
That's not how TLS works.

Also, you're seriously offended someone would think you're a big enough fan to know all of beyonce's songs when your username is her alter-ego? Get a grip.

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by sashafierce » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:25 pm

Hipster but Athletic wrote:
sashafierce wrote:
Hipster but Athletic wrote:Where would you rank drunken love in terms of all Beyoncé songs ever?
WTF :shock:

Because my username is sashafierce and I have a pic of Beyonce in my profile you assume that I know ALL of Beyonce's songs

Dude, its 10:32pm where I live and an RC passage just f#%ked me in the ass, I don't have time for this :roll:
Oh sweet, a decent troll feels the need to expose himself way too early
Me? A troll? I've never been called that before :oops:

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:29 pm

sashafierce wrote:@Moderator--->Please lock this thread :)
Yeah, no.

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:58 pm

daryldixon wrote:
n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:By permissible index funds, we are referring to something like SPY, right? Won't a collection of stocks like that most likely comprise some companies on the DNT list?
The restriction is "you" actively making the investments in individual companies. Index funds are presumptively okay because they are spread out over many companies and you have no control over the trading decisions.
This doesn't really seem that restrictive to me, but that's because my investments in equities are almost all in index funds with a long-term focus. To those who do find it restrictive: do you miss options? Day trading?

If you want 0/5/10/15% of your portfolio to be AAPL, e.g., you can probably find an index fund that has that exact makeup. If you have time to research options and short-term trades, you could surely research index fund compositions (easier). I'm curious why BL associates feel that the "very restrictive" label applies to this situation when the index fund loophole is such a substantially mitigating factor.

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by patogordo » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:07 pm

n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:
daryldixon wrote:
n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:By permissible index funds, we are referring to something like SPY, right? Won't a collection of stocks like that most likely comprise some companies on the DNT list?
The restriction is "you" actively making the investments in individual companies. Index funds are presumptively okay because they are spread out over many companies and you have no control over the trading decisions.
This doesn't really seem that restrictive to me, but that's because my investments in equities are almost all in index funds with a long-term focus. To those who do find it restrictive: do you miss options? Day trading?

If you want 0/5/10/15% of your portfolio to be AAPL, e.g., you can probably find an index fund that has that exact makeup. If you have time to research options and short-term trades, you could surely research index fund compositions (easier). I'm curious why BL associates feel that the "very restrictive" label applies to this situation when the index fund loophole is such a substantially mitigating factor.
the whole point is to not get investigated by the SEC. the rule is you can't trade on undisclosed material information. your firm, playing it safe, gives you a list of stocks you can't trade. theoretically, you could run afoul of that rule by trading index funds in some hyperspecific way like you're describing. so it's still restrictive. but why the fuck would you do any of that?

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:14 pm

patogordo wrote:
n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:
daryldixon wrote:
n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:By permissible index funds, we are referring to something like SPY, right? Won't a collection of stocks like that most likely comprise some companies on the DNT list?
The restriction is "you" actively making the investments in individual companies. Index funds are presumptively okay because they are spread out over many companies and you have no control over the trading decisions.
This doesn't really seem that restrictive to me, but that's because my investments in equities are almost all in index funds with a long-term focus. To those who do find it restrictive: do you miss options? Day trading?

If you want 0/5/10/15% of your portfolio to be AAPL, e.g., you can probably find an index fund that has that exact makeup. If you have time to research options and short-term trades, you could surely research index fund compositions (easier). I'm curious why BL associates feel that the "very restrictive" label applies to this situation when the index fund loophole is such a substantially mitigating factor.
the whole point is to not get investigated by the SEC. the rule is you can't trade on undisclosed material information. your firm, playing it safe, gives you a list of stocks you can't trade. theoretically, you could run afoul of that rule by trading index funds in some hyperspecific way like you're describing. so it's still restrictive. but why the fuck would you do any of that?
I wasn't suggesting that one circumvent the rules in order to trade on insider information lol, more curious about what BL associates felt like they were missing out on exactly. I would be surprised if they had time to actively trade on the side.

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by patogordo » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:28 pm

pretty sure the only person who thinks they're missing out is the misguised 0L who started this thread

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Post by sashafierce » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:35 am

patogordo wrote:pretty sure the only person who thinks they're missing out is the misguised 0L who started this thread
lol...you are mean but right :D

I wanted to know so I started the thread.

Thank you for the insight :wink:

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by Stanford4Me » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:45 am

Hipster but Athletic wrote:Where would you rank drunken love in terms of all Beyoncé songs ever?
I'm insulted by your horrible botching of the song's actual title.

It's "Drunk In Love," HTH

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Re: Investment restrictions as a Big Law Associate

Post by Hipster but Athletic » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:36 am

Shit :oops:

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Post by crit_racer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:49 am

were not allowed to buy/sell ANYTHING (including non client's stock) w/o first getting approval from the firm (V10). Can invest in mutual funds, etc tho.

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