New York Law School (NYLS) 1L Forum

[nylawyer488]

ok so instead of all this nonsense bickering, what are some viable options for a ny law school aside from the tops like fordham, nyu, columbia, brooklyn and cardozo?

what about schools like pace, cuny, nylaw, hofstra, touro, syracuse? i heard pace is in a great area, nice campus, 30 minutes from city and is top 5 for programs like environmental law. a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms

[bk1]

ok so instead of all this nonsense bickering, what are some viable options for a ny law school aside from the tops like fordham, nyu, columbia, brooklyn and cardozo?

what about schools like pace, cuny, nylaw, hofstra, touro, syracuse? i heard pace is in a great area, nice campus, 30 minutes from city and is top 5 for programs like environmental law. a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms

At all of those schools (even at Fordham/BLS/Cardozo) you should be focused on keeping cost as low as possible with minimal scholarship stipulations.

[Coolgrnmen]

I don't know anything about those schools except St. Johns which is a decent option (Don't take advice from the people who got 170-180 on their LSAT...they are all elitists at Ivys that think it is impossible to get a job otherwise...)

Yeah, my professor who used to teach at St. John's and deal with throngs of unemployed 3Ls with 200k in debt (pre-ITE too) is a real Ivy elitist with no idea what St. John's is like.

Also, I love how anyone who actually has a grasp on the shitstorm economy is just an "Ivy elitist." I've never stepped foot on an Ivy campus. Hell, I'm not even at a T14.

Just keep telling yourself what you want to hear, coolgrnmen. Don't let reality get in the way of your ad hominems.

Hearsay

[bk1]

I don't know anything about those schools except St. Johns which is a decent option (Don't take advice from the people who got 170-180 on their LSAT...they are all elitists at Ivys that think it is impossible to get a job otherwise...)

Yeah, my professor who used to teach at St. John's and deal with throngs of unemployed 3Ls with 200k in debt (pre-ITE too) is a real Ivy elitist with no idea what St. John's is like.

Also, I love how anyone who actually has a grasp on the shitstorm economy is just an "Ivy elitist." I've never stepped foot on an Ivy campus. Hell, I'm not even at a T14.

Just keep telling yourself what you want to hear, coolgrnmen. Don't let reality get in the way of your ad hominems.

Hearsay

Boom! Lawyered.

[Coolgrnmen]

ok so instead of all this nonsense bickering, what are some viable options for a ny law school aside from the tops like fordham, nyu, columbia, brooklyn and cardozo?

what about schools like pace, cuny, nylaw, hofstra, touro, syracuse? i heard pace is in a great area, nice campus, 30 minutes from city and is top 5 for programs like environmental law. a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms

At all of those schools (even at Fordham/BLS/Cardozo) you should be focused on keeping cost as low as possible with minimal scholarship stipulations.

If you have something lined up for sure after law school, then go to CUNY and keep your costs minimal. All the schools teach the same law.
What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD

[Coolgrnmen]

I don't know anything about those schools except St. Johns which is a decent option (Don't take advice from the people who got 170-180 on their LSAT...they are all elitists at Ivys that think it is impossible to get a job otherwise...)

Yeah, my professor who used to teach at St. John's and deal with throngs of unemployed 3Ls with 200k in debt (pre-ITE too) is a real Ivy elitist with no idea what St. John's is like.

Also, I love how anyone who actually has a grasp on the shitstorm economy is just an "Ivy elitist." I've never stepped foot on an Ivy campus. Hell, I'm not even at a T14.

Just keep telling yourself what you want to hear, coolgrnmen. Don't let reality get in the way of your ad hominems.

Hearsay

Boom! Lawyered.

[bk1]

What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD

You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

[Mickey Quicknumbers]

I hate to break it to ya, but going to any of those schools will require you to change your name from "nylawyer" to "unemployednylawgraduatewithlotsofdebt."

dont make assumptions dick face

Yeah!

[Coolgrnmen]

What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD

You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

Agree, my sentence construction was bad because I got lazy and didn't want to change it.
1st and 3rd were positives, 2nd is a negative...
I was just listing things to consider...

[Mickey Quicknumbers]

Judge Judy makes like 20 million a year. If you shift some numbers around and ignore reporting bias I think that could work out to a 500k average salary from NYLS. Not too shabby at all.

[bk1]

What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD

You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

Agree, my sentence construction was bad because I got lazy and didn't want to change it.
1st and 3rd were positives, 2nd is a negative...
I was just listing things to consider...

They aren't positives in the sense that they don't make up for high tuition and dismal employment.

[Coolgrnmen]

What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD

You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

Agree, my sentence construction was bad because I got lazy and didn't want to change it.
1st and 3rd were positives, 2nd is a negative...
I was just listing things to consider...

They aren't positives in the sense that they don't make up for high tuition and dismal employment.

I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.

[bk1]

I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.

If one has a job lined there is only one positive/negative to consider: cost.

[Coolgrnmen]

I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.

If one has a job lined there is only one positive/negative to consider: cost.

Unless they want to take specific courses...the huge enrollment created the large course selection.

[Mickey Quicknumbers]

I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.

If one has a job lined there is only one positive/negative to consider: cost.

Unless they want to take specific courses...the huge enrollment created the large course selection.

No.

[nylawyer488]

so what do any of you people know about pace law school?

[joemoviebuff]

so what do any of you people know about pace law school?

I know that most people on here won't have anything positive to say about it.

[zanda]

eh. edit. pretty much already covered.

[zanda]

a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms

It occurred to me before I started researching the market as a 0L. Then I realized I was mistaken. The big money jobs are in big law. Other jobs might be able to pay a livable salary (these jobs won't be easy to get either, especially out of terrible law schools), but that generally requires a) previous wealth b) good LRAP program or c) scholarship allows student to avoid significant debt.

[lawfreak]

Let me get this straight. Some genious on this thread is saying that you're better off going to NYLS as opposed to Hofstra which is middle TT school!?

[Coolgrnmen]

Let me get this straight. Some genious on this thread is saying that you're better off going to NYLS as opposed to Hofstra which is middle TT school!?

Yep...

[romothesavior]

so what do any of you people know about pace law school?

I know that most people on here won't have anything positive to say about it.

Pretty much this.

[lawfreak]

Let me get this straight. Some genious on this thread is saying that you're better off going to NYLS as opposed to Hofstra which is middle TT school!?

Yep...

Explain yourself!

[Coolgrnmen]

Anyone have questions a 1L can answer?

[Mickey Quicknumbers]

Anyone have questions a 1L can answer?

What % of 2L's have summer associateships this upcoming summer?